2017 Four Continents Men FS

[Mrs. P]

Four Continents Figure Skating Championships
Gangneung, South Korea
Feb. 14-19, 2017

The men will skate the free skating program at 11:00 on Sunday, Feb. 19. (time zones)

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Skate order

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[TH]StN.[/TH]
[TH]Name[/TH]
[TH]Nation[/TH]
[TH]Rank[/TH]
[TH]Points[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TabHeadBlue, bgcolor: #3333CC"]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Warm-Up Group 1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Leslie Man Cheuk IP[/TD]
[TD]

HKG

[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]52.86[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Andrew DODDS[/TD]
[TD]

AUS

[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]60.17[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Micah TANG[/TD]
[TD]

TPE

[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]46.41[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Mark WEBSTER[/TD]
[TD]

AUS

[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]54.92[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Kai Xiang CHEW[/TD]
[TD]

MAS

[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]47.38[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Chih-I TSAO[/TD]
[TD]

TPE

[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]51.02[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TabHeadBlue, bgcolor: #3333CC"]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Warm-Up Group 2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Nam NGUYEN[/TD]
[TD]

CAN

[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]72.99[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Sihyeong LEE[/TD]
[TD]

KOR

[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]65.40[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Michael Christian MARTINEZ[/TD]
[TD]

PHI

[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]72.47[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Julian Zhi Jie YEE[/TD]
[TD]

MAS

[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]72.21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Jinseo KIM[/TD]
[TD]

KOR

[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]64.26[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]June Hyoung LEE[/TD]
[TD]

KOR

[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]67.55[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TabHeadBlue, bgcolor: #3333CC"]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Warm-Up Group 3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Keiji TANAKA[/TD]
[TD]

JPN

[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]77.55[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Kevin REYNOLDS[/TD]
[TD]

CAN

[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]76.36[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Brendan KERRY[/TD]
[TD]

AUS

[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]78.11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Jason BROWN[/TD]
[TD]

USA

[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]80.77[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Misha GE[/TD]
[TD]

UZB

[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]81.85[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Grant HOCHSTEIN[/TD]
[TD]

USA

[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]81.94[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TabHeadBlue, bgcolor: #3333CC"]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Warm-Up Group 4[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Boyang JIN[/TD]
[TD]

CHN

[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]91.33[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Patrick CHAN[/TD]
[TD]

CAN

[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]88.46[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Han YAN[/TD]
[TD]

CHN

[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]84.08[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Shoma UNO[/TD]
[TD]

JPN

[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]100.28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line1Blue, bgcolor: #9999CC"]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Yuzuru HANYU[/TD]
[TD]

JPN

[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]97.04[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: Line2Blue, bgcolor: #CCCCFF"]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD="class: CellLeft, align: left"]Nathan CHEN[/TD]
[TD]

USA

[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]103.12[/TD]
[/TR]
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Entries (26)

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[TR]
[TD]Skater[/TD]
[TD]Nation[/TD]
[TD]Season's Best score (ISU SB ranking (if applicable) - Event)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Andrew DODDS
SP: Empty Chairs at Empty Tables by Alain Boubil and Claude-Michel Schoenberg
FS: Warsaw Concerto by Richard Addinsell[/TD]
[TD]AUS[/TD]
[TD]160.54 (#122 - U.S. International Figure Skating Classic)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brendan KERRY
SP: Singin' in the Rain by Arthur Freed and Nacio Herb Brown; choreo by Mark Pillay
FS: Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack by Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt; choreo by Mark Pillay[/TD]
[TD]AUS[/TD]
[TD]222.40 (#38 - U.S. International Figure Skating Classic)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mark WEBSTER
SP The Nokia Theme
FS Macklemore's Thrift Shop (Instrumental)[/TD]
[TD]AUS[/TD]
[TD]144.46 (#151 - Warsaw Cup)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Patrick CHAN
SP "Dear Prudence" by The Beatles, "Blackbird" by The Beatles; choreo by Pasquale Camerlengo
FS “A Journey," composed by Eric Radford; choreo by David Wilson[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]279.72 (#5 - Cup of China)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nam NGUYEN
SP Love Me or Leave Me by Sammy Davis Jr.; choreo by David Wilson
LP An American in Paris by George Gershwin; choreo by David Wilson[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]239.26 (#21- Skate America)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kevin REYNOLDS
SP Puutarhautuminen by Hohka, Kesäillan Tvist by Troka, Muuttosarja by Hohka; choreo by Shae-Lynn Bourne
FS Grand Piano (soundtrack) by Victor Reyes; choreo by Mark Pillay[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]245.06 (#16 -Skate Canada)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Boyang JIN
SP "Spiderman;"choreo by Lori Nichol
FS Avenue; choreo by Lori Nichol (new program)[/TD]
[TD]CHN[/TD]
[TD]278.84 (#6 - Cup of China)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Han YAN
SP I'll Take Care Of You; choreo by Lori Nichol
FS Kissing You (from "Romeo and Juliet" soundtrack) by Craig Armstrong, Balcony Scene (from "Romeo and Juliet" soundtrack) by Craig Armstrong, Tybalt Arrives (from "Romeo and Juliet" soundtrack) by Craig Armstrong, Fight Scene (from "Romeo and Juliet" soundtrack) by Craig Armstrong; choreo by Lori Nichol[/TD]
[TD]CHN[/TD]
[TD]230.19 (#27 - Cup of China)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Micah TANG
SP Wake Me Up by Avicii; choreo by Doug Ladret, Douglas Razzano
FS The Drift by Blackmill, Exotica by Tolercance; choreo by Doug Ladret, Douglas Razzano[/TD]
[TD]TPE[/TD]
[TD]131.14 (#162 - JGP Ljubljana Cup)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chih-I TSAO
SP Feeling Good by Michael Buble; choreo by Scott Brown
FS Adios Nonino by Astor Piazzolla; choreo by Sofia Inthalaksa[/TD]
[TD]TPE[/TD]
[TD]176.67 (#94 - JGP Yokohama)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lesile Man Cheuk IP[/TD]
[TD]HKG[/TD]
[TD]161.18 (#121 - Autumn Classic International)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Henry Hau Yin LEE
SP Now You See Me 2 (soundtrack)
FS Les Miserables by Claude-Michel Schonberg[/TD]
[TD]HKG[/TD]
[TD]146.94* (FMBA Trophy) (No ISU Season's Best score)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Harrison Jon-Yen WONG
SP I am Feeling Good by Adam Lambert; choreo by Scott Brown
FS Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini performed by David Garrett; choreo by Scott Brown[/TD]
[TD]HKG[/TD]
[TD]163.51* (Mentor Cup) 147.59 (#144 JGP Ljubljana Cup)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Yuzuru HANYU
SP "Let's Go Crazy" by Prince, choreographecd by Jeffrey Buttle
FS "View of Silence" and "Asian Dream Song," (program is titled "Hope and Legacy"), by Joe Hisaishi; choreo by Shae Lynn Bourne[/TD]
[TD]JPN[/TD]
[TD]301.47 (#1 -NHK Trophy)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Keiji TANAKA
SP Spring in Buenos Aires; choreo by Massimo Scali
FS Aderico Fellini Movies Soundtrack Medley by Nino Rota; choreo by Massimo Scali[/TD]
[TD]JPN[/TD]
[TD]252.09* (Universade); 248.44 (#14 - NHK Trophy)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Shoma UNO
SP Fantasy for Violin and Orchestra ("Ladies in Lavender" soundtrack) by Nigel Hess; choreo by Mihoko HiguchiFS "Buenos Aires Hora Cero" & "Balada para un loco" by Astor Piazzolla; choreo by Mihoko Higuchi[/TD]
[TD]JPN[/TD]
[TD]285.07 (#3 Rostelecom Cupl)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kai Xai CHEW
SP Fanatico by Edvin Marton; choreo by Mari Araya
FS Slow Dancing in the Big City by Bill Conti; choreo by Mari Araya[/TD]
[TD]MAS[/TD]
[TD]143.91* (Mentor Cup); 125.70 (#171 -JGP Pokal d. Blauen Schwerter)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Julian Zhi Jie YEE
SP I Put a Spell On You; choreo by Elvin Wong
FS It's a Man's World by James Brown, Get It On by James Brown, I Feel Good by James Brown; choreo by Michael Hopfes[/TD]
[TD]MAS[/TD]
[TD]212.27 (#47 Nebelhorn Trophy)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Michael Christian MARTINEZ
SP Emerald Tiger by Vanessa-Mae; choreo by Nikolai Morozov
FS Nella Fantasia; choreo by Nikolai Morozov[/TD]
[TD]PHI[/TD]
[TD]189.34* (Volvo Cup) (No ISU Season's Best Score[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jin Seo KIM
SP Moonlight Sonata by Ludwig van Beethoven; choreo by Charlie White
FS Singing in the Rain by Gene Kelly; choreo by Kenji Miyamoto[/TD]
[TD]KOR[/TD]
[TD]184.58 (#82 - Lombardia Trophy)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]June Hyoung LEE
SP: Tosca by Giacomo Puccini
FS: Moulin Rouge (soundtrack)[/TD]
[TD]KOR[/TD]
[TD]183.59* (Asian Open Trophy) (No ISU Season's Best Score.)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Shiyeong LEE
SP Dancing With the Bear, La Mascarade
LP Take Me to Church, From Eden[/TD]
[TD]KOR[/TD]
[TD]174.28 ( #99 - JGP Cup of Mordovia)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jason BROWN
SP "Writing's on the Wall" by Sam Smith from James Bond - Spectre soundtrack; choreo by Rohene Ward
FS The Piano soundtrack by Michael Nyman ("Big My Secret" and "The Scent of Love"); choreo by Rohene Ward[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]268.38 (#8 Skate America)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nathan CHEN
SP Le Corsaire by Adolphe Adam; choreo by Marina Zoueva
FS “Polovtsian Dances” (from Prince Igor) by Alexander Borodin; choreo by Nadia Kanaeva[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]282.85 (#4 Grand Prix Final)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Grant HOCHSTEIN
SP Due Tramonti
FS Pagliacci by Ruggero Leoncavallo; choreo by Peter Oppegard[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]217.25 (#42 Nebelhorn Trophy)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Misha GE
SP "Paint It Black (remake)" by Rolling Stones; choreo by Misha Ge
FS "The Nutcracker" by Petr I. Tchaikovski; choreo by Misha[/TD]
[TD]UZE[/TD]
[TD]230.55 (#26 - Autumn Classic International)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
*Does not qualify for ISU Season's Best

 

[Mrs. P]

Bump. You have two days to get this to 50 pages.

 

[frida80]

Bump. You have two days to get this to 50 pages.

Not happening! Hilarious how that other thread went!

 

[HanDomi]

it seems 3-best saved for the last . It will be battle

 

[da96103]

A little bit of analysis Nathan v Shoma

Nathan is leading Shoma by 3 points.
If we look at the PCS, Nathan has 43.54 while Shoma has 44.21, and extrapolate it to FS by times 2, Nathan would be 87.08, Shoma would be 88.42.
But at GPF, Shoma had obtained 90.94 PCS in FS, Nathan had 84.42.

So if assuming Shoma would get PCS 90.94 while Nathan would get 87.08. a difference of almost 4 points, then Shoma and Nathan's SP + PCS in FS would be roughly the same.
Thus the better skater would largely be depended upon the FS TES.

Shoma is planning to debut his 4Lo and a 4 quad + two 3A programme.
Nathan has a 5 quad + one 3A programme.

This would be close.

 

[MaiKatze]

As the last skater Nathan can just watch what the others do and skate accordingly. I also don't think we can expect only 84 in PCS for Nathan like in GPF. He is the leader here, and that will push his PCS up. I don't think it will get into the nineties, though. If both skate cleanly with their planned content Shoma still has the gap of three points from the SP to make up. Could happen, still....I'm sceptical.

 

[frida80]

A little bit of analysis Nathan v Shoma

Nathan is leading Shoma by 3 points.
If we look at the PCS, Nathan has 43.54 while Shoma has 44.21, and extrapolate it to FS by times 2, Nathan would be 87.08, Shoma would be 88.42.
But at GPF, Shoma had obtained 90.94 PCS in FS, Nathan had 84.42.

So if assuming Shoma would get PCS 90.94 while Nathan would get 87.08. a difference of almost 4 points, then Shoma and Nathan's SP + PCS in FS would be roughly the same.
Thus the better skater would largely be depended upon the FS TES.

Shoma is planning to debut his 4Lo and a 4 quad + two 3A programme.
Nathan has a 5 quad + one 3A programme.

This would be close.

Not really. With Shoma's previous program Nathan beat him by nearly 2 points. This was without Shoma's +3T so that's another 4 points. However the 4Lo will only add about 6 points to his score. Nathan will add another 10 points in PCS and his extra quad. So Nathan would win if they both went clean.

However that's probably not going to happen. This is the first time Shoma is performing his 4Lo. And his first time trying a four quad program. It's unlikely that he will skate clean and that he manages to still get his levels. I'm dreading this program already.

 

[nekun]

Yuzuru Hanyu will Busker-buskered both of Nathan and Shoma

 

[frida80]

Yuzuru Hanyu will Busker-buskered both of Nathan and Shoma

That I can see.

 

[MaiKatze]

Don't underestimate Shoma, people. He's been practising hard these last months and he has ambition. Honestly, I kind of like that he's under the radar a bit. Takes the attention away to others and lets him do his thing.

 

[xeyra]

Don't underestimate Shoma, people. He's been practising hard these last months and he has ambition. Honestly, I kind of like that he's under the radar a bit. Takes the attention away to others and lets him do his thing.

If he lands everything, I pretty much expect him to be very dangerous. Not entirely sure about that 4Lo but I understand perfectly well why he feels the need to bring it. After going clean at GPF with 3-quads and losing to a 4-quad clean Nathan, more so than losing overrall to Yuzuru, must have spurred him on. Even more after all the noise about Nathan's 5-quad program. If he was behind with 3-quads to 4, there's only one way to solve that difference and it's to raise the BV enough. Same reason Boyang Jin went with 5-quads after probably losing to Patrick Chan at Cup of China and seeing how his attempt at improving his components wasn't being really that rewarded. Raise the BV is the answer in this time and age, more so than it was during the Patrick vs Yuzuru era, where the latter had to improve BOTH areas to be competitive.

 

[frida80]

Don't underestimate Shoma, people. He's been practising hard these last months and he has ambition. Honestly, I kind of like that he's under the radar a bit. Takes the attention away to others and lets him do his thing.

It took Nathan, Boyang, and Yuzuru months before they could land a clean four quad program. More so because they added in advanced jumps. Shoma may have been training, but it takes a long time to get a hard jump like that consistent and build the stamina for four quads. Tonight he barely landed his 4F, I am very pessimistic that he can do it clean the first time.

 

[MaiKatze]

I'm not saying that I'm a hundred percent confident here, but I also don't think Shoma would announce or try a program he isn't able to do consistently in training - clean. So let's just wait and see.

 

[4everchan]

i am happy with this draw for Patrick. Just after Boyang... both of them tend to skate well in that order. May they both go over 200.

 

[frida80]

I'm not saying that I'm a hundred percent confident here, but I also don't think Shoma would announce or try a program he isn't able to do consistently in training - clean. So let's just wait and see.

Skaters often skate clean programs in practice that they often cannot skate in competition. Tomorrow is going to be very rough for Shoma. I hope it doesn't cost him a medal.

 

[cheerknithanson]

I can't for 9:00 pm on Saturday. Which will the the time in my time zone when the FP starts.

 

[randomfan]

it seems 3-best saved for the last . It will be battle

Do you mean that the 3 best are saved for last in terms of starting order? It's actually supposed to be like that now. The final three skaters will always be the top 3 of the SP. It's a new rule.

 

[da96103]

A little pre-FS survey,

In your opinion, whose debut 4Lo would be better?

Shoma or Boyang.

 

[HanDomi]

A little pre-FS survey,

In your opinion, whose debut 4Lo would be better?

Shoma or Boyang.

I think neither of them will land clean. Predicting Boyang with step out

 

[xeyra]

My predictions:

Shoma will stepout on his 4Lo but otherwise will be clean.
Boyang will land all his quads but single his 3A, again.
Patrick will get all his quads but fall on a 3A, again.
Nathan will get all his quads but fall on a 3A just because.
Yuzuru will land all his quads and then fall on a 3Lz just because.
Han Yan will land a beautiful 3A just 'cause.