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That's awesome. I think we should all choose a "sticky" quote and stick with it. :laugh:

My favorite figure skating quote was from Shizuka Arikawa: "Blacking out was a good thing. By the time I came to I was halfway through my program." :rock:
 
In 3f3t also? 3s3T is obvious, especially that it is in the second part and she is losing her stamina

Yesss! Check out some youtube replays in slowmo (with 0.25 speed). She lifts up into the jump when the first rotation is already completed on the ice.

Evgenia Medvedeva is not a star because of her technique on spins, jumps or steps. She has so much self-confidence and faith in herself that she almost never fails. This is what makes her a star: consistency, stamina, work ethic, self confidence. And when you are self confident you can shine with your personality.

This is a natural born talent that Evgenia has. If you gave all that mental strength to Katarina Toeloop Kostner she would not compete anymore because she would have already been a two-time Olympic medallist.
 
Yesss! Check out some youtube replays in slowmo (with 0.25 speed). She lifts up into the jump when the first rotation is already completed on the ice.

Evgenia Medvedeva is not a star because of her technique on spins, jumps or steps. She has so much self-confidence and faith in herself that she almost never fails. This is what makes her a star: consistency, stamina, work ethic, self confidence. And when you are self confident you can shine with your personality.

YEs, becaus she is accustomed to treat her in that way. If they start call those mistakes ,she wouldnt be so sure of herself. She mastered her combos with little lets face it, cheating and it is obvious that she has so much self confidence
In slovakia, after the FP her face was like she was scored 135 . Even not everything was called ,maybe judges had pity on her but she was shocked.:?How could I score like that if it had everything in second part?" And she came back to the old layout afterall. she cannot afford 3 combos in the 2nd part, lutz ,2 flips. Like zagitova
 
I went away. I had a nap. I made supper and I come back to find you guys still arguing about Evgenia and Caro. If nothing else I admire the stamina of some of you folks.

For all on all sides: I find it funny to see that some of you think this board is pro-Evgenia. Unless some of you are new or some the most fervent Evgenia haters have left I'd say this board is pretty divided on her. Just as we are divided about a lot of skaters. Some people are just a little more defensive about their favourites than others. If it really bothers you there is always the option of putting them on your list.
 
I went away. I had a nap. I made supper and I come back to find you guys still arguing about Evgenia and Caro. If nothing else I admire the stamina of some of you folks.

For all on all sides: I find it funny to see that some of you think this board is pro-Evgenia. Unless some of you are new or some the most fervent Evgenia haters have left I'd say this board is pretty divided on her. Just as we are divided about a lot of skaters. Some people are just a little more defensive about their favourites than others. If it really bothers you there is always the option of putting them on your list.

This was a perfect blablablabla message. You said a lot without saying anything.
 
I went away. I had a nap. I made supper and I come back to find you guys still arguing about Evgenia and Caro. If nothing else I admire the stamina of some of you folks.

For all on all sides: I find it funny to see that some of you think this board is pro-Evgenia. Unless some of you are new or some the most fervent Evgenia haters have left I'd say this board is pretty divided on her. Just as we are divided about a lot of skaters. Some people are just a little more defensive about their favourites than others. If it really bothers you there is always the option of putting them on your list.

I get it. Of course you , people here are divided about a lot of skaters.But I didn noticed that others not-fans of particular skater were so offended.Insulting words,they re making you into the troll who is nobody here and treating like trush. Sorry i fell like that, because i dare to not see fabolous skating by Zhenia
 
What a wonderful event it was! I am so sad to have to be in Sochi and miss it live.

Most of the people were skeptical about bringing Mikhailova here. But she delivered. And if she can deliver tomorrow again with the total of 190+ she might start building her competitive future in the toughest field of Russian ladies. CSKA desperately needs someone to support Radionova and Sotskova, otherwise Eteri's domination is going to be humiliating.

I liked Kaori, may be for the first time. She improved a lot compared with the previous season when she was "yet another boring young Japanese skater". Her program is very fresh packed with transitions, with backloading and beautiful spins. May be her team not only looks at Eteri's success but also try to do their homework.

Wakaba's strength this season is her FS. I just could not get all the whining here about her pcs. 33 is very appropriate. I would argue about Mikhailova's 28 and Kaori's 30 but not Wakaba's 33. Lower than Radionova's 34? I think that Elena today had one of the best if not the best SP since quite a while. If it were not for the shaky landing on the combo I would see her well above 70. There is a home turf argument as well. But in this particular case I don't see any homeflation. Let's see what we shall have in Japan.

Mirai might wish to drop 3A if she is serious about Olympics or she has to improve dramatically. She can be a "3A girl" which is a feat on its own as she is one of the kind in the current senior field so far. But it does not bring a lot of points if not rotated and it apparently drags her strength to do standard jumps. Then with 3A her scores may not be enough to get to the team. Let's see tomorrow.

Carolina was better today than during earlier competitions this season. She did 3-3 and was very connected to the music with beautiful arms and impressive blade control. She looked more confident and her score is quite deserved (unlike in Finlandia and Lombardia).

And of course Zhenya is divine as one the users here call themselves. This is one of the best programs I have seen in figure skating, ever. I was speechless watching it live at test skates. Screen does not bring the same emotions. But I could see that she skated today even better. She is perfect in this program. Let's see tomorrow. I was not convinced by her Anna Karenina the first time I saw it. May be I am going to change my mind.

Kudos to judges - very adequate this time.

And kudos to sportbox that has saved and kept the stream so that I could watch it in full tonight.
 
I get it. Of course you , people here are divided about a lot of skaters.But I didn noticed that others not-fans of particular skater were so offended.Insulting words,they re making you into the troll who is nobody here and treating like trush. Sorry i fell like that, because i dare to not see fabolous skating by Zhenia

You have to realize the relentlessness of her detractors. They've started thread after thread where they criticize everything about her and then get all salty when people get fed up with it and call them out. Not me....I think it's hilarious the way some obsess over it.

I'm really not a very big fan myself and don't connect with her like I do many others but I'd be lying if I said she wasn't the most dominating competitor the sport has seen in decades. It's nice that she doesn't need the PCS cushion to do it with inferior tech either. Makes it more official. Thank you CoP.

It's alright to not like her programs I think...I often don't. I still respect the girl and her fans.
 
I get it. Of course you , people here are divided about a lot of skaters.But I didn noticed that others not-fans of particular skater were so offended.Insulting words,they re making you into the troll who is nobody here and treating like trush. Sorry i fell like that, because i dare to not see fabolous skating by Zhenia

I'm part of the "It's not hating to have a negative opinion" mindset and I'm sorry people made you feel badly. I think I understand why Evgenia's fans are very defensive on the board. There are some who really hate her nearly beyond all reason. Maybe if you said some positives about her along with your criticism it would seem less like an attack. People notice trends and if they perceive that you are always negative toward one person they remember it. I'm not her biggest fan but I can certainly list at least a few positives. Just like with Caro. And also sometimes you need to know when, if the goal is to change the mind of someone else, they open to hear constructive criticism or not. Some are, some aren't. Choose your battles.
 
What a wonderful event it was! I am so sad to have to be in Sochi and miss it live.

Most of the people were skeptical about bringing Mikhailova here. But she delivered. And if she can deliver tomorrow again with the total of 190+ she might start building her competitive future in the toughest field of Russian ladies. CSKA desperately needs someone to support Radionova and Sotskova, otherwise Eteri's domination is going to be humiliating.

I liked Kaori, may be for the first time. She improved a lot compared with the previous season when she was "yet another boring young Japanese skater". Her program is very fresh packed with transitions, with backloading and beautiful spins. May be her team not only looks at Eteri's success but also try to do their homework.

Wakaba's strength this season is her FS. I just could not get all the whining here about her pcs. 33 is very appropriate. I would argue about Mikhailova's 28 and Kaori's 30 but not Wakaba's 33. Lower than Radionova's 34? I think that Elena today had one of the best if not the best SP since quite a while. If it were not for the shaky landing on the combo I would see her well above 70. There is a home turf argument as well. But in this particular case I don't see any homeflation. Let's see what we shall have in Japan.

Mirai might wish to drop 3A if she is serious about Olympics or she has to improve dramatically. She can be a "3A girl" which is a feat on its own as she is one of the kind in the current senior field so far. But it does not bring a lot of points if not rotated and it apparently drags her strength to do standard jumps. Then with 3A her scores may not be enough to get to the team. Let's see tomorrow.

Carolina was better today than during earlier competitions this season. She did 3-3 and was very connected to the music with beautiful arms and impressive blade control. She looked more confident and her score is quite deserved (unlike in Finlandia and Lombardia).

And of course Zhenya is divine as one the users here call themselves. This is one of the best programs I have seen in figure skating, ever. I was speechless watching it live at test skates. Screen does not bring the same emotions. But I could see that she skated today even better. She is perfect in this program. Let's see tomorrow. I was not convinced by her Anna Karenina the first time I saw it. May be I am going to change my mind.

Kudos to judges - very adequate this time.

And kudos to sportbox that has saved and kept the stream so that I could watch it in full tonight.

Are people really sad to be in Sochi? I always thought the black sea area was one of the most beautiful in Russia. *cat is sitting on my hands making typing difficult*
 
Are people really sad to be in Sochi? I always thought the black sea area was one of the most beautiful in Russia. *cat is sitting on my hands making typing difficult*

I have a few Instagram friends who are there now for a youth sports festival. Looks fun!!
 
You have to realize the relentlessness of her detractors. They've started thread after thread where they criticize everything about her and then get all salty when people get fed up with it and call them out. Not me....I think it's hilarious the way some obsess over it.

Ok, but it is not an excuse. I dont think I deserved such words because there were threads back then

I'd be lying if I said she wasn't the most dominating competitor the sports seen in decades. It's nice she doesn't need the PCS cushion to do it with inferior tech too. Makes it more official. Thank you CoP.

You know that she is nothing special? She is just first of many russians who skates that way..She is just first. In 5 years there will be plenty of russians, ones with better TES, others with better artistry. She will be not dominate, because many of them will be skate like that. Now she is in better situations ,like you say she dominates because Eteri started with her when nobody skates like that.(I mean bacloaded stuff, because with aristry you could find better girls)I appreciate what she does, I respect her, bu I dont find it divine, thats all
 
You know that she is nothing special? She is just first of many russians who skates that way..She is just first. In 5 years there will be plenty of russians, ones with better TES, others with better artistry.l

Let's agree to resume this conversation in five years. In the meantime, I think it is safe to say that Eugenia is something special. :yes:
 
Are people really sad to be in Sochi? I always thought the black sea area was one of the most beautiful in Russia. *cat is sitting on my hands making typing difficult*

Well, I overdramatized. Of course, I am not that sad. My parents live in Sochi so that it is a good occassion to visit them. But I would rather go another week attending CoR especially when ladies SP event was that good. The company sent me to participate in the final act of the "Worldwide festival of the youth and students" which has been going on in Sochi.
 
Yesss! Check out some youtube replays in slowmo (with 0.25 speed). She lifts up into the jump when the first rotation is already completed on the ice.

Evgenia Medvedeva is not a star because of her technique on spins, jumps or steps. She has so much self-confidence and faith in herself that she almost never fails. This is what makes her a star: consistency, stamina, work ethic, self confidence. And when you are self confident you can shine with your personality.

This is a natural born talent that Evgenia has. If you gave all that mental strength to Katarina Toeloop Kostner she would not compete anymore because she would have already been a two-time Olympic medallist.

It's a lot like Katarina Witt isn't it :cool:

Even by the standards of her time Katarina was hardly the best (she was actually pretty weak in comparison to others in many areas) but she had everything you mentioned plus more and she ended up far more successful then skaters more talented. Evgenia isn't the artist Katerina was but she's equal in everything else and that's why she's succeeding as she is :thumbsup:

And if CAROLINA (not Katarina :biggrin:) Kostner had the mental strengh, as you said, she'd be a THREE time Olympic medalist and multi world champ. She made her worlds debut (and won bronze) in 2005!
 
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