2017 GP Cup of China Mens FS

[demarinis5]

Gosh what a cute podium! WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!

My thoughts exactly!

 

[MaiKatze]

Certainly!
These people are okay with Brown having 85+ TES for underrotated and fallen quad and pop and having 90 for PCS but when Michail with much better jumps, quads and skating skills has better TES and same PCS they are talking about how the judging is corrupted.
It's okay for Shoma to have million mistakes and have very high TESm like 100+.
It's okay for Javi, Yuzu etc have pops, mistakes etc.

But now Michail is in the game! Now he is one of the top skaters now cause he has everything: jumps, skating skills, spins, personality. He is on the same board with Chen, Chan, Uno, Hanyu, someone like it or not. And now everyone should put up with Mica's high TES and PCS for imperfect skates cause he deserves it with the quality of his jumps, spins ans skills.

When did that happen? I must've missed it. :noshake:

 

[qwertyskates]

Mikhail KOLYADA

PCS : deduction
89.00 : 4.00 ： ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2017
87.14 : 1.00 ： ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2017
85.90 : 3.00 ： 25th Ondrej Nepela Trophy
81.42 : 2.00 ： Finlandia Trophy Espoo 2017

I think that it is his home country that the PCS is the highest for Rostelecom that fell three times.

Kolyada skated FAR WORSE today than at Rostelecom - he popped, that to me is worse than a fall.

I might be mistaken but I think Kolyada cut down on the transitions at CoC compared to Rostelecom. He held back a lot. I have to rewatch to tell, but this is my impression.

He is rightfully 2nd, the couple of successful jumps he did were BEAUTIES, I'd put him before Boyang who lost it today. I've never seen Boyang like this.

 

[StitchMonkey]

Mikhail already gotten Javi's spot.
Nathan, Shoma, Boyang and Yuzu remain in their own spots.

We are discussing Patrick's vacated spot. Thus Aaron or Rippon.

Shouldn't Jason who has a silver be in the conversation at least with Aaron and Rippon?

My math was screwy and forgot about Kolyada. In that case, I'd say it's Brown's spot to lose. If the rest of the Grand Prix plays out as expected, he just has to win the silver at NHK and he's in. But we all remember that he just had to be the normal Jason last year in Japan to make the final and imploded... so nothing is guaranteed.

Jason did not implode... he had an diagnosed stress fracture. NHK was kinda the "something is not right" that finally got it diagnosed. I don't think injury is an implosion... implosion implies a mental aspect and I really feel last year was a physical issue for Jason.

Jason is competing with his own body this year for the GPF.

 

[Mrs. P]

Jason did not implode... he had an diagnosed stress fracture. NHK was kinda the "something is not right" that finally got it diagnosed. I don't think injury is an implosion... implosion implies a mental aspect and I really feel last year was a physical issue for Jason.

Jason is competing with his own body this year for the GPF.

Somebody please wrap him in bubble wrap, please. No CRAZY MOVES, Jason!

 

[draqq]

Somebody please wrap him in bubble wrap, please. No CRAZY MOVES, Jason!

You're making me question whether Jason should do the quad in training now...

 

[StitchMonkey]

You're making me question whether Jason should do the quad in training now...

The weird thing is he is right back to almost does not need it maybe should not do it.

I suspect a repeat of Skate Canada, clean quadless short and quad attempt in the free.

 

[rabbit1234]

Kolyada skated FAR WORSE today than at Rostelecom - he popped, that to me is worse than a fall.

I might be mistaken but I think Kolyada cut down on the transitions at CoC compared to Rostelecom. He held back a lot. I have to rewatch to tell, but this is my impression.

He is rightfully 2nd, the couple of successful jumps he did were BEAUTIES, I'd put him before Boyang who lost it today. I've never seen Boyang like this.

I think it is wrong to say that the fall of 3 times, the highest PCS ever recorded.
I record data for each competition, but the competitor who updated the personal record of PCS falling 3 degrees like KOLYADA , is not in my memory.

I think that KOLYADA 's skating is good as I think so that if he performs good performance, I think there is a possibility that PCS will rise further than this time.

However, I think that grading that the score of the competitor in the home town will rise is not fair.

 

[Mrs. P]

You're making me question whether Jason should do the quad in training now...

Nah. I kid a bit. Jason looks stronger now then he did even before NHK a year ago, but it's just the event is associated with such bad vibes, like having to W/D due to his back injury two years ago and doing poorly due to injury last year.

It's how I felt about the Shibs and Rostelecom Cup until they won a few weeks back.

Anyway, Jason's not here. Thanks for bearing with the OT!

 

[Icey]

It was such a good feeling to come to my computer this morning and find that Max had won the bronze and the FREE Skate.

 

[da96103]

Shouldn't Jason who has a silver be in the conversation at least with Aaron and Rippon?





Jason did not implode... he had an diagnosed stress fracture. NHK was kinda the "something is not right" that finally got it diagnosed. I don't think injury is an implosion... implosion implies a mental aspect and I really feel last year was a physical issue for Jason.

Jason is competing with his own body this year for the GPF.

You are right. I missed Brown.

It should be Boyang, Brown, Aaron, Rippon for the last two spots.

 

[qwertyskates]

I think it is wrong to say that the fall of 3 times, the highest PCS ever recorded.

Sorry that it's killing you...

Sorry that pops are worse than falls, falls still show grit and determination and those beautiful rotations that aren't properly controlled, pops are just...empty...nothing there except shock and surprise and a huge arc which holds so much promise unfulfilled. They really kill a skater, just look at Javi, it's devastation.

 

[draqq]

Nah. I kid a bit. Jason looks stronger now then he did even before NHK a year ago, but it's just the event is associated with such bad vibes, like having to W/D due to his back injury two years ago and doing poorly due to injury last year.

It's how I felt about the Shibs and Rostelecom Cup until they won a few weeks back.

Anyway, Jason's not here. Thanks for bearing with the OT!

I can understand that. We just have to tell Jason that this is really the World Team Trophy, and he'll do FINE.

 

[Duality]

When did that happen? I must've missed it. :noshake:

In Skate Canada last week!

 

[TontoK]

I have been busy, so this is my first time to chime in on this. I've watched some of the videos, but missed the live.

Congrats to Max! A very solid LP, although (saying this as a Max fan) he seemed a bit cautious. I think perhaps the mindset going in was "clean skate." I hope this gives him a lot of confidence, and he really lets loose in the next competition with more abandon.

I also watched Vincent's program, and although it didn't blow my socks off, there were excellent moments in there. A lot for him to be proud of. Going from 8 in the SP to 2 in the LP is something he should remember.

I had hoped for more clarity on how the US men stood after this competition, and I didn't quite get it. Coming back from relatively poor SP's to these excellent LP's is a feather in both Max and Vincent's caps.

Congrats to Kolyada on the SP - the less said about the LP, the better. Still it's a 2-skate competition, so I guess he earned the victory.

 

[adelia]

Oh dear. Terrible, disastrous meltdown for Petrov.

I wouldn't call it a meltdown. He did what his body is capable of doing at the moment.
Sasha has been ill for some time. He is still ill. He was also injured not long ago. I don't know why he is still competing but it is what it is.

 

[ManyCairns]

it was such a good feeling to come to my computer this morning and find that max had won the bronze and the free skate.

omg yes yes yes!

 

[Matilda]

Really impressive really? Eurosport guys? I just can't get with the Elvis program (Construction and the artistic credibility of the program is more important to me, more than the skaters)

Max is more impressive today than all the guys. Personal breakthroughs, personal bests etc... Very impressive, even his very non POTO costume is impressive and shows confidence.

What impressed me today is actually HanYan's FS program. Mature, soulful, moody, he have developed a real 'flavour' to it which I find it quite interesting. Up the Quads and improve on the stamina, and he should be running again. These are good contemporary programs with no silly jokey bits I wanted him to have all these years.

Vincent also impressed me today. Showed he has grit and determination for a comeback after a disaster. Yes, he has a lot to work on, but it is the very good base foundation to work from. Over 100+ tech, highest of the day among this calibre of skaters is nothing to be scoffed at.

Han Yan was low-balled in PCS, imo. I love both of his program this season, and I'm just so happy to see him healthy and in contention for the podium again.

 

[Icey]

As I read this section, I got entirely too many full page pop ups for "games" and often had to force quit and come back in. Anyone else having this happen. Very annoying.

 

[NoNameFace]

Somebody please wrap him in bubble wrap, please. No CRAZY MOVES, Jason!

only waving through a window for Jason (sorry, could not help myself )