2018 Olympic Figure Skating Mens FS

[da96103]

I know what you mean but I don't think that comparison is fair. We have huge sample size issues. I think it is much more likely that Yuzu is exceptional! Also, some things went in his favor (everyone messed up). I think you need: 1) timing to work out for your first Olympics to fall at the right time in your development, 2) a ridiculous once in a generation talent, and 3) some luck. That's a lot to ask for!

Lol, Yuzuru is Tara Lipinski and Sarah Hughes combined.

 

[treeloving]

Damn. So this is what his team hasn't been telling us. He isn't fully recovered and still injured.

Effing amazing he was able to pull off another Gold.

Like him or not, he is real legend. 2-3 weeks of training and even with injuries be able to pull out that skate.

 

[Barb]

1	HANYU Yuzuru	JPN	317.85	1	2	video
2	UNO Shoma	JPN	306.90	3	3	video
3	FERNANDEZ Javier	ESP	305.24	2	4	video
4	JIN Boyang	CHN	297.77	4	5	video
5	CHEN Nathan	USA	297.35	17	1	video
6	ZHOU Vincent	USA	276.69	12	6	video
7	ALIEV Dmitri	RUS	267.51	5	13	video
8	KOLYADA Mikhail	RUS	264.25	8	7	video
9	CHAN Patrick	CAN	263.43	6	8	video
10	RIPPON Adam	USA	259.36	7	10	video
11	BYCHENKO Alexei	ISR	257.01	13	9	video
12	MESSING Keegan	CAN	255.43	10	12	video
13	SAMOHIN Daniel	ISR	251.44	18	11	video
14	HENDRICKX Jorik	BEL	248.95	11	16	video
15	CHA Junhwan	KOR	248.59	15	14	video
16	BREZINA Michal	CZE	246.07	9	18	video
17	GE Misha	UZB	244.94	14	17	video
18	TANAKA Keiji	JPN	244.83	20	15	video
19	VASILJEVS Deniss	LAT	234.58	21	20	video
20	KERRY Brendan	AUS	233.81	16	21	video
21	RIZZO Matteo	ITA	232.41	23	19	video
22	FENTZ Paul	GER	214.55	24	22	video
23	YAN Han	CHN	213.01	19	23	video
24	KVITELASHVILI Morisi	GEO	204.57	22	24	video
	YEE Julian Zhi Jie	MAS	FNR	25
	BESSEGHIER Chafik	FRA	FNR	26
	TEN Denis	KAZ	FNR	27
	MARTINEZ Michael Christian	PHI	FNR	28
	MONTOYA Felipe	ESP	FNR	29
	PANIOT Yaroslav	UKR	FNR	30

I think in Javier´s place you put to Shoma again

 

[shiroKJ]

So he is not fully healed yet :sad21: From Jackie Wong's tweet:
"Hanyu: I don't know yet [about Worlds]. My ankle injury isn't healed, so I pushed it hard for this competition. There are some elements I can't perform because of it but I pushed myself to do them here."

Damn, please don't push it anymore for worlds. Just rest and let your body do what it can. No more 4Lz's this season....please.

 

[da96103]

I hope all this skipping Worlds stops this year. I want to see all the top guys competing at Worlds. I prefer that competition than this once in 4 years PR exercise.

Yuzuru and Shoma would go. Javier probably not. He skipped the last after-Olympic Worlds.

 

[yume]

Pairs and Men were perfect. Olympics are perfect. So far.

 

[da96103]

Damn. So this is what his team hasn't been telling us. He isn't fully recovered and still injured.

Effing amazing he was able to pull off another Gold.

I think the 4Lo was probably never ready, though Brian said work-in-progress.

 

[Alchamei]

Yuzuru and Shoma would go. Javier probably not. He skipped the last after-Olympic Worlds.

He didn't. He nearly won Gold, a popped Lutz took him down to third.

 

[shiroKJ]

Pairs and Men were perfect. Olympics are perfect. So far.

 

[Ophelia]

Yuzuru and Shoma would go. Javier probably not. He skipped the last after-Olympic Worlds.

Yuzu should NOT go. He's still injured and should take time off to recover.

 

[purpledream]

From Twitter
https://twitter.com/rockerskating/status/964755256277110784

S: "He (Hanyu) will be my eternal goal, the eternal idol for me."

Wow Shoma T-T idk if i shld be crying or laughing at this stage

 

[Ophelia]

I think the 4Lo was probably never ready, though Brian said work-in-progress.

He did 4Los successfully in practice. He removed it from his LP after he won the SP.

 

[WineHerUp]

I hate how Ashley always criticizes Russian ladies skaters and Boyang but she says nothing negative about Nathan when he is basically only jump after jump. I mean, I am glad that he got his redemption, and he is soo young, but there is not much besides jumps.

Stylistically, the Russian ladies are not my cup of tea, but to call them out for not having actual programs is so disrespectful. I would choose programs packed with content over Ashley's posing on ice any day. She was unfair towards Boyang too. I didnt find his program to be any less artistic than Nathan's and he had better jumps...

 

[shiroKJ]

Yuzu should NOT go. He's still injured and should take time off to recover.

He'll go. His sense of duty will want to make sure Japan gets 3 spots for 2019 in Japan..

 

[Globetrotter]

Shoma doesn't have poor landing than Nathan. Nathan got tons of +2s for his poor landings. He has no flow whatsoever. His jumps don't deserve +2s. +1s are more like it. Shoma does have beautiful flow coming out of his jumps.

Agree, I was responding to the poster who thought Shoma was overscored while my observations were that Nathan was overscored even more while Jin was lowballed when his jumps looked better and he didn’t drop his TR. Sure, he is not the performer like Javi nor does he have PChan’s SS but at least he tried to attack the FS instead of staying cautious. That his GOE on jumps were lesser and his PCS was lower than Chen really stumped me.

Uno though did enough to at least convince me he could podium. If anything, his jump GOEs overall are a little poorer than Nathan but his flow out of jumps are indeed a nice feature.

 

[Kiarararara]

Bit of sportmanship here. Skaters appreciate each other’s talents.

https://twitter.com/dylanohernandez/status/964748323419652097

Nathan’s technical power is great, I have to give him that. But he needs to work on his artistry and mental toughness. He is making some progress but still quite rough around the edge. Hope that he will continue to develop from now on.

Re: the deal with Nathan being Yuzuru’s sole rival. Boyang has as good technical imo (minus the variety on jumps) as he has but better mentality. Shoma’s technical is much more iffy but he is better on artistry and mentality. I daresay both Yuzuru and Javi is better than him on all three main aspect, technical (they don’t have BV but they have GOE), artistry and mentality/consistency. Nathan has his jumps and his future looks bright but at the moment it is still very much a 5-way fight where he does not have the upper hand. no matter how much 2-way rivalry American media may lead people to believe I think Nathan himself should be most aware of his current position in the circuit.

 

[HanDomi]

huh, it doesn't sounds well that Hanyu is still injuired...

it's miracle he landed all of this quads he did

 

[purpledream]

Bit of sportmanship here. Skaters appreciate each other’s talents.

https://twitter.com/dylanohernandez/status/964748323419652097

And I agree with that sentiment. How does one overcome this olympic high

 

[da96103]

He didn't. He nearly won Gold, a popped Lutz took him down to third.

Sorry I think it was Patrick who skipped Worlds.

 

[snd]

i don't understand patrick's scores.

edit: 4 judges gave him 8s in pcs and nobody gave anythig above 9.50. i mean - the podium finishers shouldn't have gotten anything above 9.00 then, right?

yuzuru got the medal he deserved this time. looks like he really wanted it.