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She’s at least 5 ft 4-5. She said so several months ago and probably grew since then. On recent photos she’s already taller than Viktoria Sinitsina, who’s 168cm.
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Who can defeat the Russian Women in 2021-22?
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Speaking of revolutionary innovators in ladies' figure skating. I have to wonder how Charlotte Oelschagel would have fared if she had been born a century later. As a professional show skater in the earliy 1900s she was the first lady to do an Axel jump. On the amateur side it would be another 20 years before a lady (Sonja Henie) did one in competition. (Henie in fact could do a single Axel / single Axel sequence.)
Oelschagel wowed the crowd by concluding her performances with single Axel into Charlotte spiral (thus racking up points in both TES and PCS, not to mantion bonus for highlight element in the second half
). After Oelschagel, the Charlotte spiral was largely dormant for a hundred years until it was brought back by Michelle Kwan and Sasha Cohen in 1999.
Oelschagel wowed the crowd by concluding her performances with single Axel into Charlotte spiral (thus racking up points in both TES and PCS, not to mantion bonus for highlight element in the second half
). After Oelschagel, the Charlotte spiral was largely dormant for a hundred years until it was brought back by Michelle Kwan and Sasha Cohen in 1999.
I agree, except for Kurt Browning at the Olympics (twice).
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I fully expect Russian ladies to sweep at least half of the GP podiums, the GP final podium, and Olympic podium. There may be non Russian ladies that end up on some podiums here and there, but I can’t see anyone consistently defeating the top 4-5 Russian ladies. We’ll see how it goes
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Kamila Valieva says: hold my bag!
I'm sure she's ready to compete in seniors internationally. And just hope she won't burn in flames of expectation of the whole nation (excluding those who bet on other Eteri girls
).How did she have a terrible season? She only skated in one "real" competition--US Nationals--and did pretty well. 4th place but just off the podium. In the short and long, she did her 3lz-3t in the second half. She has improved a lot in speed and presentation.
Didn't Anna beat Kamila at Russian Nationals? Let's wait and see how Kamila does on the Grand Prix before crowning her Olympic champion.
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Hmm, I thought it was worse. Are any protocols left?
I've not been able to find any protocols for the ISP challenge, here are the protocols from Nationals
If anyone wants to compare seasons, here are the protocols from 2020 Nationals
I don't think that Alysa had a terrible season if you look at her season by itself, but when comparing to the Russian ladies, which is purpose of this thread to discuss the potential challengers of which Alysa used to be considered, she did take a large step back. She didn't attempt ultra-c elements whereas most of her Russian counterparts kept and/or added new ultra-c jumps, additionally her presentation this year was immature in comparison to the Russians, still relying on her being cutesy/smiley.
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Not everyone would agree that her presentation was immature. There are no competitions where her presentation this year can be judged against "the Russians." Most who saw her at Nationals thought her skating skills and presentation had improved markedly. Alena Kostornaia, who seemed to be a lock to win Worlds last year, also "took a large step back" if Alysa did. We know Alysa had the big elements before and no doubt is working to get them back. If she does, she can certainly challenge for the podium at the Olympics.
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Alysa is coming for her olympic gold medal 
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I'd bet more on Alisa Dvoeglazova..Alysa is coming for her olympic gold medal
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I feel that Liu, You and Kihira all are strong contenders, and it only depends on their form and training conditions in the upcoming season where they would land vs Tsehrbakova, Trusova, Kostornaya and Tuktamysheva. Valieva, at her last outing with both 3A and one quad was exceptional. Overall, it is going to be another interesting year, hopefully more interesting, actually, in ladies’ figure skating.
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The more I think about, the more I believe that someone from Japan, S. Korea, or the US will be able to land on the Olympic podium. Olympic pressure on the favorites is unlike anything else, and the Russians will be taking a lot of risks to try to beat each other out for the gold medal. It wouldn't surprise me to see a steady skater with just a 3A take advantage of one (or more) of the Russians failing to find her timing on the quads.
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If Valieva skates like she did at the russian cup final or russian cup stage 2, bye bye podium. Same thing if Trusova has a repeat of Stockholm.
People thought OAR would sweep in 2018 and then Sotskova bombed. It's way too early to say that Russians will sweep the olympic podium. Ice is slippery...
People thought OAR would sweep in 2018 and then Sotskova bombed. It's way too early to say that Russians will sweep the olympic podium. Ice is slippery...
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Sotskova as favourite against Osmond. News to me!
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I think Eteri has enough authority to prevent it.
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Based on what I just read here, what is left to the fans of other than Russian skaters is expecting the skate of the lifetime from, say, Rika and a meltdown from Kamila. Can this happen? Theoretically, anything can happen. Practically? Zhenya, Alina, Elizabeth, Kamila, Alyona, Anna - they all delivered when it mattered most. I am sure that those who will be in the Olympic team will show everything that they are capable of. And Kamila's free program at the Russian Cup Final is a weak example. That event meant nothing to her and to anyone, she tried for the first time 3 quads, a 3A, and two 3-3 combos in the second half. That was just an experimental skate outlining what might happen with Bolero next season. If she landed all her jumps with her local GOE and pcs the score would be above 190. Her international score would be 175-180. Once again, it was just to show where she is heading. Young You, Rika, and Alysa Liu? Ok, ok...
What is realistic is Russia's not being able to participate in some of GP events and as a result a mixed composition in the GPF. The most obvious candidate for that is Skate America. How will coronavirus protocol work there? If they require a covid passport with vaccines that are not offered in Russia it will be the first barrier. Getting US visa will be another one - they stopped issuing travel US visas in Moscow.
What is realistic is Russia's not being able to participate in some of GP events and as a result a mixed composition in the GPF. The most obvious candidate for that is Skate America. How will coronavirus protocol work there? If they require a covid passport with vaccines that are not offered in Russia it will be the first barrier. Getting US visa will be another one - they stopped issuing travel US visas in Moscow.
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In head to head senior comps, Osmond 2 Sots 1. After finishing 9th at the previous Worlds, 2013, and rejected by her own federation for the Russia team event at the OG, Sots b/c Gold medalist in Sochi. Where did THAT come from, said everyone?
