2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[readernick]

The Daria injury is too soon but why isn't it possible to reallocate places? Rika and Sasha's could be. Sad that now it's only 9 athletes.

Rika was replaced by Mana who certainly took advantage of the opportunity given her. How would they have replaced Trusova though? There was no time to get another foreign skater to Japan. Travel isn't that easy in the age of COVID.

So sad for Daria, ligament injuries are no joke and Daria is still a child so the choreographer's viewpoint is terrible. That being said, all figure skaters do get injured on occasion.

 

[Lzbee]

Хореограф Тутберидзе о травме Усачевой: «Не скажу, что есть вина тренера, — девочки сами из-за конкуренции бегут вперед паровоза»

Хореограф Тутберидзе о травме Усачевой: «Не скажу, что есть вина тренера, — девочки сами из-за конкуренции бегут вперед паровоза» - Фигурное катание на Sports.ru

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Хореограф Тутберидзе о травме Усачевой: «Не скажу, что есть вина тренера, — девочки сами из-за конкуренции бегут вперед паровоза»

Хореограф Тутберидзе о травме Усачевой: «Не скажу, что есть вина тренера, — девочки сами из-за конкуренции бегут вперед паровоза» - Фигурное катание на Sports.ru

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you'd have thought he would've learned from Daniil's blunder but here we go again.

 

[Lechat]

Rika was replaced by Mana who certainly took advantage of the opportunity given her. How would they have replaced Trusova though? There was no time to get another foreign skater to Japan. Travel isn't that easy in the age of COVID.

So sad for Daria, ligament injuries are no joke and Daria is still a child so the choreographer's viewpoint is terrible. That being said, all figure skaters do get injured on occasion.

Daria was already injured before it’s not like they didn’t know. They let her go to Japan knowing she wasn’t fully recovered and it worsened https://fs-gossips.com/daria-usacheva-is-diagnosed-with-a-trochanteric-fracture-of-the-hip/
« Earlier, it was reported that the 15-year-old figure skater flew to the Grand Prix in Japan, experiencing pain in the groin area.

Daria has been fighting with the damage of the muscle at the back of the thigh, but the injury allowed her to train in a moderate mode. Before the competitions in Japan, the problem with the hip and pain in the groin area seriously worsened, as a result of which the athlete was unable to complete the 6-minute warm-up before the start of the short program in Japan and was forced to withdraw from the tournament. »

 

[Mista Ekko]

Хореограф Тутберидзе о травме Усачевой: «Не скажу, что есть вина тренера, — девочки сами из-за конкуренции бегут вперед паровоза»

Хореограф Тутберидзе о травме Усачевой: «Не скажу, что есть вина тренера, — девочки сами из-за конкуренции бегут вперед паровоза» - Фигурное катание на Sports.ru

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Хореограф Тутберидзе о травме Усачевой: «Не скажу, что есть вина тренера, — девочки сами из-за конкуренции бегут вперед паровоза»

Хореограф Тутберидзе о травме Усачевой: «Не скажу, что есть вина тренера, — девочки сами из-за конкуренции бегут вперед паровоза» - Фигурное катание на Sports.ru

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Is this dude for real?

 

[Amei]

The Daria injury is too soon but why isn't it possible to reallocate places? Rika and Sasha's could be. Sad that now it's only 9 athletes.

Rika was replaced, Trusova was just at the beginning of this week, that might've been too soon as well to allocate the spot.

 

[Scott512]

Seems like Eteri‘s girls are plagued with injuries this year. I feel so sorry for Dasha but she was unable to train during the six minutes warm up. There’s something wrong. They shouldn’t send her to Japan.

Unfortunately many countries are dealing with figure skater injuries. It's not just TT even if the media tries to make us think it is.

Dasha is not a quadster yet she still suffered a severe injury right before her performance. Figure skating is a great sport but it's a brutal sport.

Get well. Dasha. I hope it's not an injury related to her femur bone.

 

[Climb]

Daria was already injured before it’s not like they didn’t know. They let her go to Japan knowing she wasn’t fully recovered and it worsened https://fs-gossips.com/daria-usacheva-is-diagnosed-with-a-trochanteric-fracture-of-the-hip/
« Earlier, it was reported that the 15-year-old figure skater flew to the Grand Prix in Japan, experiencing pain in the groin area.

Daria has been fighting with the damage of the muscle at the back of the thigh, but the injury allowed her to train in a moderate mode. Before the competitions in Japan, the problem with the hip and pain in the groin area seriously worsened, as a result of which the athlete was unable to complete the 6-minute warm-up before the start of the short program in Japan and was forced to withdraw from the tournament. »

That is not a fact though. Considering that the author is famous for his fake news i'd take anything he writes with a grain of salt.
Official statement fron RusFed already contradicts his claim about the hip fracture

 

[Scott512]

Averbukh also commented it was obvious Daria was going with injury so this corresponds. But Eteri needs to stop her staff speaking, they do not fear her anymore. To blame Daria for this is dreadful. One side injured then it's overtraining by the athlete, other side not enough run-throughs and being humiliated in the press. What can the skater do??

It's a tricky situation as we all know because in figure skating you have to skate in pain sometimes otherwise the fear of someone taking your spot becomes a reality and that is massive pressure at TT more so than any rink in the world.

EG almost never says anything publicly so why is she allowing her choreographers to?

If this wasn't an Olympic season perhaps Dasha doesn't even go to Japan.

Sadly in the middle of a worldwide pandemic that is now becoming and endemic the skaters in many countries are off to a rough start this season health-wise and it ain't just the TT group.

I mean do we know if Liza got coronavirus again?

 

[flanker]

Trusova is the driver behind the 5-quad program to the extent she listed Eteri attempting to limit her number of quads as a reason she left Eteri last year. Trusova is 17, an adult legally in some countries - if she is dead-set on going for the 5 quads in competition, her coaching team (any coaching team be it Raf, Plushenko, Orser or Eteri) would be irresponsible to not train her to accomplish it as she could injure herself in competition if she attempted to go for a layout she wasn't prepared to handle.

Shcherbakova said in 1 of her interviews after GP Italy she wanted to add the 4Lz to her FS since she was landing it in practice and her coaches argued against it as she hadn't been practicing her layouts with it at Crystal.



Well as the choreographer said, the girls are going to have to tell the coaches how much something is bothering them. They held her from training in the morning to help protect her and they left the decision on her whether to compete or not.



Nothing in Trusova's history indicates that Eteri had to force her to do that quad lutz, more likely she had to force her to only do the 1 quad lutz



Do you give Alysa's coaches this much hell? She's had hip surgeries before she ever turned senior internationally. Or let me guess, that's Eteri's fault because she coaches the 2 girls that pioneered quads being a 'norm' for ladies skaters and Alysa and her coach just had to train those elements. Nathan Chen whose Olympic spot is guaranteed barring injury went to Skate America and Skate Canada with an injury, and he did not lessen his difficulty due to the injury.

I'm not, nor did I in my original post infer that Eteri is some kind of angel, but I also don't think she's the evilest coach to walk this planet.

I'm glad for your reasonable comment but you can't reason with a zealot(s).

 

[lappo]

Wishing a speedy recovery to Dasha, she is one of my current favourite Russian skaters so I really hope she can heal and come back soon!

 

[Vlad Karigov]

I will only limit myself to saying that it is totally disgusting the joy that overflows on Twitter, another site and even in this forum, for the misfortunes of the Tutberidze girls. Have a minimum of dignity.

Usacheva said goodbye to the season and the Olympics, thus the best diagnosis occurs will not reach the nationals. She in the end she bet everything, as she does not jump 3A or quads, could only the best classification to the GPF, and that would only get him if she won in Japan, that's why she still injured she decided to compete.

It is very sad what happened with her, she was the closest to the skills of the best kostornaia; And even more sad is that you just have an injury when you are playing the classification to the most important event in your career.

 

[alexocfp]

I will only limit myself to saying that it is totally disgusting the joy that overflows on Twitter, another site and even in this forum, for the misfortunes of the Tutberidze girls. Have a minimum of dignity.

Usacheva said goodbye to the season and the Olympics, thus the best diagnosis occurs will not reach the nationals. She in the end she bet everything, as she does not jump 3A or quads, could only the best classification to the GPF, and that would only get him if she won in Japan, that's why she still injured she decided to compete.

It is very sad what happened with her, she was the closest to the skills of the best kostornaia; And even more sad is that you just have an injury when you are playing the classification to the most important event in your career.

Get well soon Daria!
Come back stronger and better than before. That’s the most important thing here.

Your medals are as good as your competition. So if you are taking joy in someone else’s injury, you admit you want the easy way.

I’m sorry, but rooting for injuries and taking pleasure in them is ridiculous and those people that do should be cursed out.

Obviously, the blame Eteri contingent crawled out of the woodwork too.

Conveniently forgetting that the US champion, the Japanese champion, the French Champion, the Austrian Champion, the Brazilian champion are all out injured as well. Guess that’s her fault too. If someone trips on a banana peel that’s her fault as well.

Anyway, let’s not lose site of the fact that skaters are injured. Wish that all of them make a full recovery, without exception.

 

[silveruskate]

The person being blamed is Daria Usacheva, by Zheleznyakov.

 

[flanker]

Unfortunately many countries are dealing with figure skater injuries. It's not just TT even if the media tries to make us think it is.

Dasha is not a quadster yet she still suffered a severe injury right before her performance. Figure skating is a great sport but it's a brutal sport.

Get well. Dasha. I hope it's not an injury related to her femur bone.

Many non-quadsters were facing injuries in the past and are facing injuries now, which is what happens in sport. Just take Loena Hendrickx, we are cheering for her curent results and that can be an inspiration for all the injured skaters who can see that they can always get back and still improving, but I'm mentioning her also because she was dealing with her troubles for years. She withdrew from competitions, then started competing again, then withdrew from other ones, there and back again and again. It's not like a skater, a coach or a doctor have a crystal ball and not always the diagnosis or the prognosis can be set. And of course if any athlete would cease competing/training after every trouble there would be only empty stadiums or arenas. It's simply impossible to forecast everything even if there are "troubles".

Like an athlete starts to feel something. OK, we will go to the doctor, the coach probably says, the doctor does some examination. Either he finds soemthing disturbing, then the cure is set, or he finds it's something minor that can be treated soon, then the training is stopped or reduced according to seriousness. Or possibly nothing specific is found, then perhaps some options are proposed and according to possible danger/not danger the further steps are considered. Of course it mostly workds but no doctor is House M.D., to whom screenplay allows to always find the right cause of the problem.

And of course plenty of top skaters are injured currently who have nothing to do with TT. Injuries mostly happen in training, because like 95 % of time and load the skater spends and gets in the training, but there are still those 5 %.

 

[Fluture]

The person being blamed is Daria Usacheva, by Zheleznyakov.

Yeah, I just cannot see how one can defend his words (especially since he’s had a history of making strange comments)? The whole thing about "the girls are already adults" as well…. did he conveniently forget that the only legal adult in the group right now is Kosto at 18? And Daria is 15, too. Fifteen! I feel awful for her and this is in no way her fault. Hoping she recovers fully and isn’t in too much pain. If the initial reports on her injury being a hip fracture were wrong, that’s already a bit of good news.

 

[Amei]

The person being blamed is Daria Usacheva, by Zheleznyakov.

While the translated version sounds bad, glass half-full outlook - I don't think his intention was to blame Usacheva for getting injured, as much as he attempting to ward off the vultures that salivate at Eteri's skaters having problems and finding a way to blame the coach because they detest her dominance.

 

[flanker]

While the translated version sounds bad, glass half-full outlook - I don't think his intention was to blame Usacheva for getting injured, as much as he attempting to ward off the vultures that salivate at Eteri's skaters having problems and finding a way to blame the coach because they detest her dominance.

Pity moriel is no longer seen here. She often provided proper translations of things when people started to rant over google translated, half-wrong, half-ripped-out-of-context quotes.

 

[Amei]

Pity moriel is no longer seen here. She often provided proper translations of things when people started to rant over google translated, half-wrong, half-ripped-out-of-context quotes.

Its why I try to make sure I disclaimer quotes when I'm posting quotes from a translation service.

 

[Artemisa]

well... at this rate . I think russian national olympic team won't be who is better but who is healthy enough at national championships

 

[kmw227]

I don't think Daria had much of a shot at the Olympic team anyway, but I'm so heartbroken for her. She's my favorite of the new Eteri seniors and she was so great last year, I really wanted her to have a good season this year. She had a great shot at the podium and maybe even a win this weekend too

Hopefully now she'll be able to take her time and make sure she's 100% recovered before coming back. Wishing her all the best!