2022 U.S. Nationals: Senior Men's Free Skate

[lavender]

C’mon - who did you enjoy the most? Def not Nathan, def not Vincent. Jason YES, Ilia YES!

Jason for sure.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Protocols are out and Brown got a "q" on his 4S.

Yeah, Vincent deserves to be on the team.

 

[Weathergal]

Oh no! Not again! This happened to him in Lombardia... Oh dear is he doing to be like Jun, who as far as I know has never found boots that don't give him issues.

That's just too sad... Wants to send all the stuffies to Yaro.

He also has a groin injury. Someone mentioned that Todd Eldredge said that his blades were misaligned at one point, causing groin issues.

 

[moonvine]

If they go by the Free Program scores, it's Vincent that stays home.

They go by the entire season. https://www.usfigureskating.org/sit...23 Athlete Support Funding Criteria Final.pdf

 

[ks777]

I always liked Tatiana, but didn't know Ilia was her son. That's a cool talking point.

I didn't know that either until today.. I thought his last named sounded familiar... when Terry mentioned his dad from Uzbekistan,
I remember Tatiana was also from Uzbekistan. Tatiana had huge jumps.. it all makes sense now.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Brown also got 10's with a fall. Come on, that's not even allowed.

Same with Chen's 9.75 with 2 falls.

 

[Nathan13]

If they go by the Free Program scores, it's Vincent that stays home.

Why would they go by Free Program scores to decide the Olympic team?

 

[moonvine]

Well should I stick around for gala/concert?

 

[anonymoose_au]

C’mon - who did you enjoy the most? Def not Nathan, def not Vincent. Jason YES, Ilia YES!

When Vincent skates his FS clean it's amazing as well. I don't think it's fair to dismiss him like that.

But as a hater of contraversy I think it's probably best to leave Vincent at home. Seriously, I'm not lying when I say he has haters. They might possibly be worse than the Plushy haters (I know!) they'll make it impossible to enjoy the men at the Olympics, at least for me, so yeah no.

Scott Hamilton!

 

[lavender]

Oh no! Not again! This happened to him in Lombardia... Oh dear is he doing to be like Jun, who as far as I know has never found boots that don't give him issues.

That's just too sad... Wants to send all the stuffies to Yaro.

Who did this happen to

 

[Wafflecakes]

Brown also got a 10 with a fall. Come on judges, that's not even allowed.

Yup. Judges were VERY generous all around to every skater tonight.

 

[labgoat]

Well should I stick around for gala/concert?

yes please...

 

[lichi]

Jason gave away the Bronze with his lack of technical firepower you mean?

Never understood the entitlement around this. When you have as little TES as Jason does you need to be 100% clean.... and he wasn't. If you have high TES you can afford mistakes.

It isn't some conspiracy.

I mean, both got very generous scoring, but the technical panel were very lenient on Vincent this time around with his URs. Jason should have gotten bronze, BUT I don't think he should/would get a spot on the Olympic team. I think it's between Jason and Ilia, and an argument can be made either way.

 

[shan22044]

They go by the entire season. https://www.usfigureskating.org/sites/default/files/media-files/2022-23 Athlete Support Funding Criteria Final.pdf

GPF was Nathan, Vincent and Jason...

 

[moonvine]

yes please...

But how much will be concert and how much skating?

 

[skylark]

Well if it happens, Jason will have also lost the Olympic spot for failing to have more than one quad attempt across both programs, and that one quad attempt he had was underrotated.

Jason will also have lost the Olympic spot because Zhou delivered in the SP.

Jason will also have lost the Olympic spot because Vincent had much better results than Jason internationally this season.

Even if Jason had eked ahead of Zhou, it would be foolish for the US to not send the skater with literally the 2nd highest total score internationally over the skater with the 9th highest total score internationally.

Also, let's be clear, it's not Jason's Olympic spot. Yes, he helped earn 3 spots at Worlds, but he isn't entitled to the spot.

Thank you for articulating this all so clearly. I love Jason and his skating, but all of the above that you said about Vincent is a matter of record. And I love Vincent too. The Olympic spot never did, never does, belong to anyone until they earn it ... looking at all criteria.

 

[Mista Ekko]

Considering the huge gap the judges gave Jason in PCS and how the panel forgave him on some of those elements
I say they probably realllyyy want him in the team and he'll be named,

 

[anonymoose_au]

Nathan should have just done the worm on that faceplant. It wouldn't have saved him from the deduction, but it would have been funny.

That would have been the greatest save in the history of saves.

 

[Weathergal]

Someone please explain to me how Zhou is getting 9s and higher in skating skills.

 

[norwegianfairytale]

I can´t get over the fact that Ilia scored over 300 points on his senior debut at Nationals