Nordic skating (FIN, SWE, NOR, DEN, ISL)

[CaroLiza_fan]

Another new Swedish ID team. Their names doesn´t sound very Swedish After a Google search, seems like they are born and raised in Canada. How interesting!



Edit: They were announced as a new ice dance team in June, but it seems everyone assumed they would represent Canada. I´m really curious how they ended up representing Sweden, particular since there are 3 other teams now. And i´m guessing Citizenship isn´t going to be super easy for them.

Anna Mackenzie's Mum is Swedish.

https://northtorontoskating.com/coaches/

Scroll down to the box for Marie Jonsson MacKenzie, and click on the "Contact / Qualifications" button. A pop-up appears telling us a summary of her background.

So, presumably, Anna already has Swedish citizenship and it would only be Wesley Lockwood that would be looking for it.

Hope this helps.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[Tingeling]

Another new Swedish ID team. Their names doesn´t sound very Swedish After a Google search, seems like they are born and raised in Canada. How interesting!



Edit: They were announced as a new ice dance team in June, but it seems everyone assumed they would represent Canada. I´m really curious how they ended up representing Sweden, particular since there are 3 other teams now. And i´m guessing Citizenship isn´t going to be super easy for them.

Make that five Swedish teams

https://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00117814.htm

Charlotte Chung and Axel MacKenzie (Anna's brother) too.

 

[saine]

Make that five Swedish teams

https://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00117814.htm

Charlotte Chung and Axel MacKenzie (Anna's brother) too.

I think someone asked if they'd be switching too, I guess there's the answer!

 

[MsJanaMajerova]

Why is Denmark significantly behind the other Nordic countries? Is there any hope for Danish figure skating?

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Make that five Swedish teams

https://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00117814.htm

Charlotte Chung and Axel MacKenzie (Anna's brother) too.

Wow, what a time to witness in Nordic skating I would never had that on my bingo card!

Nationals will be fun this year! Junior Ice Dance will have a full podium, unless Chung and MacKenzie will do senior Nats, in that case a full senior podium, one way or the other

If the ice gets too crowed Milla and Nikolaj can always switch countries to Norway, but I don´t see them doing it as long as they are the strongest team. I´m sure they will represent Sweden at least in this olympic cycle. But who knows in the next cycle, if both MacKenzie siblings trains in Canada with better coaching they might be a threat.

I wonder if the MacKenzie siblings ever wondered about skating together? If they already have Swedish citizenship due to their mother that would solve the citizenship issues.

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Why is Denmark significantly behind the other Nordic countries? Is there any hope for Danish figure skating?

From my understanding very little ice time, less resources etc.

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Ok, hold your hats people... There is not 5...

But 6 ice dance team in Sweden

Apparently Sonja Werner has teamed up with a skater named Isak (don´t know last name), read this on X, but this post from the skating club confirms that Sonja is training on ice dance. They will most likely be juniors, as Sonja is around 16 years old.

When you thought you heard about them all, there is a another team rising from nowhere

 

[TT_Fin]

When I was on the road (not driving) I checked when Finland will have the selections for nationals I noticed this weekend. So that's why Linnea C. withdraw from Astana, she is there, and Karina, Iida and Arttu were selected to this weekend's JGP as they are last year's medalist in disciplines they all probably will take part in also at nationals where they have already the spot for nationals (men always will get the spot as there are so few of them but non-medalist must still take part to at least one of the selections). Skaters can take part to both if they want to and also medalists are allowed to take part to selection competition if they want. But when skaters change discipline for example from juniors to selections, then they need to take part to selections. It is only singles, juniors and seniors. Edit: Noticed Emmi is not there though she did nod medal last season. But she is scheduled to Budapest Trophy next weekend.

Result page Finland's 1st selection for nationals

 

[TT_Fin]

I am little bit confused about the last selection Emmi Ahlsted for JGP. She has been 15th at juniors nats last time, has WD for summer competition where the spots were given. They maybe some reason: Others in front of her have retired, are injured or have turned to seniors and one possibility is they cannot jump the compulsory 2F/3F or 2A. She is not even part of the national team, but belongs to youth national team. Finland had so many spots that it understandable they need send someone outside of the national team if the skaters who are age eligible to skate in juniors but don't want to go. Darja Trubitson got only one spot but her summer competition did not went well. Her JGP went well but maybe the Fed does want to give the chance to Emmi which is already promised.

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Do you have any updates about Nella Pelkonen @TT_Fin? I just saw there was an article in Finnish on X, I tried translating the synopsis and it said something about that she had been off 4 weeks of the ice after Worlds, that there was signs of stress fractures in both legs? so she has almost not been training the whole summer, and then she started the autumn being very ill.

It´s this article: https://www.ess.fi/urheilu/7960669 - maybe you can tell us more what it says. I´m wondering how she is doing now, is she in training and will she still do GP as scheduled? Sounds like she didn´t have the best off season and almost hasn´t been training so it´s hard to picture that she will be ready to compete this early in the season.

 

[DemTuppesSeine]

Do you have any updates about Nella Pelkonen @TT_Fin? I just saw there was an article in Finnish on X, I tried translating the synopsis and it said something about that she had been off 4 weeks of the ice after Worlds, that there was signs of stress fractures in both legs? so she has almost not been training the whole summer, and then she started the autumn being very ill.

It´s this article: https://www.ess.fi/urheilu/7960669 - maybe you can tell us more what it says. I´m wondering how she is doing now, is she in training and will she still do GP as scheduled? Sounds like she didn´t have the best off season and almost hasn´t been training so it´s hard to picture that she will be ready to compete this early in the season.

Oh no :-( She had so much bad luck at competitions last year...I had hoped for a better season...

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Oh no :-( She had so much bad luck at competitions last year...I had hoped for a better season...

Yes, she has been so unlucky And she was such a delight to watch last GP.

I tried to Google Translate more, seems like they will decide the next couple of days if she will go to GP Canada or not, so they are very unsure. Not a good sign. It´s sad to hear this but maybe for the best to postpone the season start if she hasn´t been training much.

 

[DemTuppesSeine]

Yes, she has been so unlucky And she was such a delight to watch last GP.

I tried to Google Translate more, seems like they will decide the next couple of days if she will go to GP Canada or not, so they are very unsure. Not a good sign. It´s sad to hear this but maybe for the best to postpone the season start if she hasn´t been training much.

Yes, definitely the better decision. Maybe she has enough time to qualify for Euros somehow.
Just checked the substitute list...Elyce is on top of the list, so if Nella was out, does that mean that Elyce would be assigned? (I'm quite new to all this, don't know how this works ) (And the question is also if Elyce would do two GPs in a row...)

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Yes, definitely the better decision. Maybe she has enough time to qualify for Euros somehow.
Just checked the substitute list...Elyce is on top of the list, so if Nella was out, does that mean that Elyce would be assigned? (I'm quite new to all this, don't know how this works ) (And the question is also if Elyce would do two GPs in a row...)

She would be next in line yes, and US only have one other lady at GP Canada, so they are not maxed out on spots.

Normally if skaters can pick they would probably not do back to back, but given that Elyce only got one spot, and skaters would have to WD for her to get the second spot, I do not think she would take the chance and decline GP Canada if Nella WD, because that might be her only chance of getting the second spot. For now, it seems most of the WD are done, I do not know of any other skater that might be a question mark in the womens field now. In fact, I can only think that there will be one other spot available, if Nella WD from Canada she might not be ready for GP Finland either, it´s not many weeks between, but I´m assuming they will wait and see on that one until later since it´s in Finland and she might really want to skate there easier content. So fingers crossed she can make GP Finland. I do not think Nella got a host spot but was given the spot based on SB 75 list? In that case the spot in Finland would have to go down the alternate list, and since US is maxed out on spots in that event, it would go to Lara Naki Gutmann. If Nellas spot is considered as a host spot, I guess it would perhaps go to Emmi Peltonen if she does well this weekend in Budapest.

At least the SKam and SCI are two events close by, and I would assume - not the biggest time zone change either, so it would probably be the easier events doing back to back if you have to be in that position.

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Regarding qualifying for Euros: @TT_Fin has explained that Finland has clear rules, and it´s based on the two? best season scores or something. Nella would first of all need to compete to be considered, and she would need to post high enough scores. You can mix international and domestic scores (only one domestic I think), It´s still early, but it looks like Janna had a strong season start and is back in shape and has figured out growth spurt and jumping issues related to that. Since Nella hasn´t had the most optimal off season, I think it perhaps would be too much to expect her to produce the highest scores in time for Euros, maybe more realistic before Worlds. Nella, like Emmi has the advantage of producing higher component marks, so they don´t always need the most difficult jumps to produce higher scores, but there is a limit how far it can take them if the jumps are not there. There are many other strong Finnish women atm., so it´s going to be difficult to compete for the spot if you are not in optimal shape.

 

[DemTuppesSeine]

Regarding qualifying for Euros: @TT_Fin has explained that Finland has clear rules, and it´s based on the two? best season scores or something. Nella would first of all need to compete to be considered, and she would need to post high enough scores. You can mix international and domestic scores (only one domestic I think), It´s still early, but it looks like Janna had a strong season start and is back in shape and has figured out growth spurt and jumping issues related to that. Since Nella hasn´t had the most optimal off season, I think it perhaps would be too much to expect her to produce the highest scores in time for Euros, maybe more realistic before Worlds. Nella, like Emmi has the advantage of producing higher component marks, so they don´t always need the most difficult jumps to produce higher scores, but there is a limit how far it can take them if the jumps are not there. There are many other strong Finnish women atm., so it´s going to be difficult to compete for the spot if you are not in optimal shape.

Janna definitely looked better at Nebelhorn than she did at any competition last season. It was great to see

 

[norwegianfairytale]

Janna definitely looked better at Nebelhorn than she did at any competition last season. It was great to see

Yes it was so nice to see her do so well. It also shows how fast things can change. Last season it was Janna that struggled in the beginning of the season after having a great season before. She was not able to really be in the mix for Euro spot, I do not remember how far off she was, but Nella was the clear leader in the best scores, and I think there were skaters above Janna on the list, despite that she was the clear leader the season before. And before that sometime, it was Emmi who had the strongest seasons.

I wish they all would have the optimal seasons at once, it would make the selections even more exciting. The placement would probably change a lot during the season because there are so many strong women when they are all healthy and had optimal off seasons. But i´m sure Nella will bounce back. Maybe the Olympic season will really be the the season were Finnish ladies are all healthy and strong with a thrilling race for the Olympic spot.

 

[TT_Fin]

Yes, Finland has had in singles several years the same rule: For EC and worlds two best scores counted togehther. One must be neither challenger or GP, one can be any ISU compeition or nationals or qualification for nationals, for WC the GP or challenger can be replaced by some other ISU competition hold next year before the deadline. For juniors one must be ISU junior international competition Nella has a spot for nationals as last years medalists always get if they take part in the same discipline but I noticed she was announced to first qualification but had WD. Probably her goal was to get experience and maybe the scores, I don't know, just guess. I have been quite busy during last days so I have not had time much to read articles yet. I think nobody but Nella has scores for WC yet, but the season is young. (She has been unlucky very often, when she was junior she was often injured, too). To all other big comps there are candidates who have the TES but have not reached the rules. I put statistics here, but this season they are quite slow to update them. When I write this, there are many missing.

Finnish skaters'r TES scores

Statistics about skaters who have reached the rules for big competitions

 

[TT_Fin]

I read the article now, just quick answer. Yes, Nella is suffering the old leg injures and does not yet know if she can go to Canada.

I found the translation for the problem Nella has had: The translation for Nella's long-time problem maybe this "'medial tibial stress syndrome". She has participated in the media conference of the Finnish Figure Skating Association on Tuesday and tells this : "recursors of a stress fracture were found in both of the lower legs. Seven weeks passed since the summer, so I was injured practically the whole summer. At the beginning of the autumn, I was quite sick. Now there are problems with the legs again."

 

[TT_Fin]

No news about Emmi, but seems she is not in shape to compete. Did not take part to qualifications for nat - well there will be another one still - and has now WD from Budapest. I already wrote to GP thread that closest to Finland's host spot is Linnea Ceder, who lost at the summer competion to Olivia Lisko just by less than one point; the selections were made mostly based on that competition.