2017 Four Continents Men FS
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not to be rude, but I honestly dont understand what people are trying to say when they say: his interpretation is good - is it the way he listens to the music?
is there a different from that to performance? Because as a casual viewer i saw moments in nathans skate where I was like YES but other parts were also just skate skate jump jump
is there a different from that to performance? Because as a casual viewer i saw moments in nathans skate where I was like YES but other parts were also just skate skate jump jump
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OMG Shoma got his 4Lo??? Yay! I so need to check videos now.
Nathan's free program is not horrible, but if it makes you feel better to criticize his program, go ahead. If you want to see a horrible program, why not go and watch Boyang Jin's again.
What Nathan is doing is remarkable. He was not at his absolute best, but he's human and can not be perfect all the time. He certainly overall performed better than Yuzu at this competition. Nathan did not have serious technical miscues in either program, while Yuzu did. What Nathan has just accomplished at U.S. Nationals and at 4CCs tonight is absolutely amazing, remarkable and groundbreaking. Even me, as someone who feels quads are over-emphasized and over-hyped can recognize the historic nature of what Nathan is accomplishing. Nathan is laying on the quads because that's what ISU wants and will over-reward. To achieve that at the rate Nathan is doing can lead to otherwise emptier programs choreographically, but that's nothing new. While at this point, Yuzu Hanyu has more impressive choreo and maturity than Nathan, Yuzu also has some weaknesses that are never acknowledged by the judges.
Remember that Nathan is only 17 years old, and if he remains healthy, the sky is the limit in terms of his overall growth as a skater. Nathan already possesses great musicality, fierce competitiveness, amazing jumping ability, and the capacity to grow as an artist. You don't have to like his program or his skating. There's a lot I don't like that I see in this sport but I recognize I have no control over what happens in the sport, what the judges decide and the direction the sport takes. I admire Nathan's talent and his cool, calm, collected personality. He's the real deal.
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He's still working on balance. He has improved a lot on trying to lessen the feel of it being a jump fest. His step sequence was great, but with the amount of setting up for quads he is doing it's going to take awhile to find some balance. Besides that they tweaked the jump layout, so I think there was a bit less performance because of it.
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For me the top placements are correct. This generation is going to make Worlds very interesting. :dev3:
Overlord Hanyu, going out for blood of his enemies dressed in his 4CC silvers and pride versus New Overlord Chen with NBC/US hype, laser quads, actually dressed in his blood-red vest. I'm expecting some youtube trailers. Or maybe someone else will snatch the Gold? Shoma? Spider? Chiddy? Stay tuned.
Also, Yuzuru's emergency quad is my new aesthetic. :cool14:
still bummed for Chiddy
Overlord Hanyu, going out for blood of his enemies dressed in his 4CC silvers and pride versus New Overlord Chen with NBC/US hype, laser quads, actually dressed in his blood-red vest. I'm expecting some youtube trailers. Or maybe someone else will snatch the Gold? Shoma? Spider? Chiddy? Stay tuned.
Also, Yuzuru's emergency quad is my new aesthetic. :cool14:
still bummed for Chiddy
Nathan Chen showed tonight that he can compete with the big gun. Not even intimidated by skating after Yuzu. It wasn't as perfect like nationals and had to fight for some of the landings.
On another note, that 2nd 3A combo brought neg GOE. Was thinking maybe better off doing the triple triple instead. Had he landed that like nationals, he could have won the LP as well.
On another note, that 2nd 3A combo brought neg GOE. Was thinking maybe better off doing the triple triple instead. Had he landed that like nationals, he could have won the LP as well.
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To be fair, Shoma's 4Lo was a thing of beauty ...
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The American judge gave Nathan a 9.25 for performance and interpretation! 
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I was in awe of Shoma's 4Lo. So beautiful!
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thanks
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Nathan's free program is not horrible, but if it makes you feel better to criticize his program, go ahead. If you want to see a horrible program, why not go and watch Boyang Jin's again.
What Nathan is doing is remarkable. He was not at his absolute best, but he's human and can not be perfect all the time. He certainly overall performed better than Yuzu at this competition. Nathan did not have serious technical miscues in either program, while Yuzu did. What Nathan has just accomplished at U.S. Nationals and at 4CCs tonight is absolutely amazing, remarkable and groundbreaking. Even me, as someone who feels quads are over-emphasized and over-hyped can recognize the historic nature of what Nathan is accomplishing. Nathan is laying on the quads because that's what ISU wants and will over-reward. To achieve that at the rate Nathan is doing can lead to otherwise emptier programs choreographically, but that's nothing new. While at this point, Yuzu Hanyu has more impressive choreo and maturity than Nathan, Yuzu also has some weaknesses that are never acknowledged by the judges.
Remember that Nathan is only 17 years old, and if he remains healthy, the sky is the limit in terms of his overall growth as a skater. Nathan already possesses great musicality, fierce competitiveness, amazing jumping ability, and the capacity to grow as an artist. You don't have to like his program or his skating. There's a lot I don't like that I see in this sport but I recognize I have no control over what happens in the sport, what the judges decide and the direction the sport takes. I admire Nathan's talent and his cool, calm, collected personality. He's the real deal.
Uh what? I wrote my opinion. Indicated by the, well, imho. What is this 'if it makes you feel better' nonsense? I think it's horrible, you disagree, fine. This is a Forum where we can all post our opinions, no need to get preachy with me.
Yeah, there were so many detractors who said Shoma shouldn't do a 4Lo. It will flop because he had never done a 4 quad before....blah blah blah.
It was his BEST jump in the program. Shoma just need to brush up on those axels!
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I noticed earlier that that Mexican judge gives funny scores for some elements.
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They're probably thinking ahead to the Olympics.
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