2018 Junior World Championships Mens FS

[Mawwerg]

The top 6 men last year all had scores higher than Erokhov!

Last there were very strong competitors. They have already shined at senior circuit.

 

[anonymoose_au]

Someone corrected me - they’ll actually still get 3 because of Camden and Tomoki’s scores

Oh that's good news!

But I feel the point still stands...

According to Twitter Alexei's gone to hospital to get his ankle checked, fingers and toes crossed it's good news for him!

 

[kimi492]

Oh that's good news!

But I feel the point still stands...

According to Twitter Alexei's gone to hospital to get his ankle checked, fingers and toes crossed it's good news for him!

The fact he was still skating around a little bit gives me hope it’s a sprain - it didn’t look as bad as something like what happened to yuzu

 

[lavenderblossom]

Oh that's good news!

But I feel the point still stands...

According to Twitter Alexei's gone to hospital to get his ankle checked, fingers and toes crossed it's good news for him!

Someone in the audience is saying he told the ref it was broken https://twitter.com/MarkRJahnke/status/972456446414786562
Really hope it's just a bad sprain - though actually I badly sprained my ankle ~8 years ago and that ankle is still weak so

 

[da96103]

Someone corrected me - they’ll actually still get 3 because of Camden and Tomoki’s scores

You are correct.
Criteria for 3 spots: Cumulative placement of 13 or less.

Camden 6
Tomoki 7

6 + 7 = 13

 

[anonymoose_au]

Someone in the audience is saying he told the ref it was broken https://twitter.com/MarkRJahnke/status/972456446414786562

Yeah I saw your link when I went back. Ow ow ow poor Alexei!

I really hope he'll be OK! It'll be a nightmare trying to get home with a cast.

 

[BossT]

Alexey EROKHOV - FP, JWC 2018
https://youtu.be/sLb9nSwQxY4

 

[da96103]

Well, after last year's Junior's quadfest, this year, reality falls back to ice with only three clean quads (GOE zero or more), all 4T in combo by Erokhov, Phan and Orzel.

So it remains to be seen if the only clean 4S will come from Tsarina Trusova!

 

[Kutien]

1	Alexey EROKHOV	RUS	231.52	2	1	video
2	Artur DANIELIAN	RUS	218.76	8	2	video
3	Matteo RIZZO	ITA	211.58	6	6	video
4	Joseph PHAN	CAN	210.91	14	3	video
5	Roman SAVOSIN	RUS	207.91	12	5	video
6	Camden PULKINEN	USA	207.88	17	4	video
7	Tomoki HIWATASHI	USA	206.68	11	7	video
8	Ivan PAVLOV	UKR	206.38	4	8	video
9	Mitsuki SUMOTO	JPN	199.51	3	9	video
10	Jonathan HESS	GER	195.32	7	10	video
11	Sihyeong LEE	KOR	194.85	5	11	video
12	Irakli MAYSURADZE	GEO	186.98	9	15	video
13	Conrad ORZEL	CAN	185.93	15	12	video
14	Mark GORODNITSKY	ISR	180.43	18	14	video
15	Luc ECONOMIDES	FRA	179.55	21	13	video
16	Nurullah SAHAKA	SUI	177.75	13	18	video
17	Adam SIAO HIM FA	FRA	175.59	16	19	video
18	Sena MIYAKE	JPN	174.66	10	23	video
19	Younghyun CHA	KOR	174.13	23	16	video
20	Petr KOTLARIK	CZE	173.15	20	17	video
21	Donovan CARRILLO	MEX	168.68	19	22	video
22	Gabriel FOLKESSON	SWE	166.39	24	20	video
23	Micah Kai LYNETTE	THA	166.00	22	21	video

JWC2018 Victory ceremony Men

 

[RemyRose]

Anyone to rewatch besides Danielian?

No. The only clean skate of the night.
Pulkinen, Savosin, and Phan were decent though.

 

[auser]

Frankly, I think Quads add excitement to the sport! It's more of if you can't do one don't try it until it's consistent. I don't think Alex needed it to win:sad21: Also Quads is how the sport advances...

I respect that you think quads add excitement to the sport and I agree they can. But I think choosing the number of jump rotations in the air(especially if they are not cleanly landed) might be an arbitrary way to determine the advancement of a sport based on skilled use of blades on ice. While watching this junior comp, I was impressed with how much technique the skaters endeavored to incorporate in their programs(Jason Browns' extension/spins, Shoma's cantilever, their musicality).

 

[LadyB]

Bells during the anthem ...

Yeah, what on earth was that all about? That wound me right up. Thomas Bach in the audience??? :roll5:

 

[charlotte14]

I respect that you think quads add excitement to the sport and I agree they can. But I think choosing the number of jump rotations in the air(especially if they are not cleanly landed) might be an arbitrary way to determine the advancement of a sport based on skilled use of blades on ice. While watching this junior comp, I was impressed with how much technique the skaters endeavored to incorporate in their programs(Jason Browns' extension/spins, Shoma's cantilever, their musicality).

The main point of a sport is to push the limit. You play with risky elements you have to accept the risks. It is the norm of all sports. If you're afraid to get hurt you're never going to win anything.

 

[lavenderblossom]

The main point of a sport is to push the limit. You play with risky elements you have to accept the risks. It is the norm of all sports. If you're afraid to get hurt you're never going to win anything.

I think auser has a point though, that it's important to push the sport in other ways as well. Jumps are not the only limit that can be pushed.
Steps and spins are not necessarily safer either. Lots of people get concussions working on spins. And they can also be exciting and innovative.

 

[luckyguy]

I hope Krasnozhon recover quickly. Did he ever land a clean 4Lo? I can remember only URs, and this time the UR (4S) was terrible.

 

[Canadianskatingfan]

Does this mean 14 spots for JGP for canada???!!!

 

[Tolstoj]

Proud of Matteo's season: fairly tired here (especially in the second half) but good enough for the bronze. By far our strongest talent, next season he will need a quad to compete in seniors.

I'm also happy that Danielan made the podium: 14 years old and already Junior Worlds silver medalist, that's insane. Also i like his packaging, already good skating skills,
very good posture, his FS was the best performance of the event for me.

He needs to work on the facial expression, the elevation of the 3T in the 3-3 combo (it always looks barely rotated), and eventually to approach quads. Please stay in juniors for another year or two. Great future.

Alexey Erokhov: congratulations, Eteri's group starts to bring results in men's figure skating too, not his best FS though: he would have lost the gold with a clean program from Krasnozhon. Rach maybe not the best fit, and the program was all jumps and very little choreography. He needs something less frantic, his R&J FS from last season was a lot better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH1wA8VJAC4

 

[russianfan]

so, gold medals for Russia in all 4 disciplines?
D - domination

 

[charlotte14]

I think auser has a point though, that it's important to push the sport in other ways as well. Jumps are not the only limit that can be pushed.
Steps and spins are not necessarily safer either. Lots of people get concussions working on spins. And they can also be exciting and innovative.

Jumps are more difficult and dangerous than spins and footworks. The point is not to focus on jumps only. The point is to push the limits in all the aspects equally. The point is judges do not do their jobs well because of bias and political games. For example if they do not automatically give above 80 for men who just need several quads yet poor skating skills, the issue would never happen.
If some jumpers believe they only need the number of quads to score huge, then why would they push their skating skills and other aspects? It is the judges' fault.
To limit the quads means to stop the progress of the sport.

 

[Tolstoj]

Anyone to rewatch besides Danielian?

Pulkinen was great here, he's ready for seniors. (i think his components should have been above Erokhov)

Also Joseph Phan (unfortunately very messy with the jumps)