2018 US Int'l Classic Ladies Free Skate

[Ichatdelune]

You’re right. Young loves big music with personality and Eunsoo would be such an elegant Eliza.

Yeah, and on top of that, Young looks her best in darker colors while Eunsoo shines in lighter colors. Young would be stunning in a black dress, and I'd just die with adoration if I saw Eunsoo in a dress like Young's.

 

[kimi492]

Protocols: http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2018/28067/SEGM006.html

Satoko didn't get a single UR while there were plenty for the rest of the field. That said the judges didn't really shower her with GOE in the jumps.

This is a complete joke

 

[Seren]

Did someone distract the technical callers during Satoko's skate? I love her, but seriously?

 

[rachno2]

Is it really that hard to give artistic skaters the PCS they deserve while also being fair with the technical marks? :ddevil:
(It's ISU, so I know the answer, but still)

 

[chuckm]

I just wish Satoko was skating to something OTHER THAN A TANGO!! It's the RD for both Juniors and Seniors and I am sick unto death of the tango already and the season has barely started. I may have to invest in earplugs for the rest of the year.

 

[yume]

Satoko deserve her PCS, and if that program is skated clean it will be a deserved 70+.
But just, the hell? The other girls were showered with URs and downgrades but not her? So she's the one who rotated all her jumps? She's the one who rotate the best? Seriously?

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Okay, Satoko deserves her PCS and spin GOEs, but how on earth did she not have a single UR called? when others got them like candy?

 

[Jeanie19]

Unexpectedly I like this program for Courtney:agree: I am looking forward to see how she develop later in season.

I do too. But I would like a prettier dress.

 

[ancientpeas]

I do too. But I would like a prettier dress.

I feel this is often a problem with Courtney unfortunately. The dresses are often unflattering.

 

[ancientpeas]

So.. here is a bit of a logic problem: Just because Satoko has UR before and just because everyone else got called does not mean she ur this time. It is a philosophically weak argument to prove that she ur last night.

Has anyone looked at the coverage closely in slow mo? Did she have more than a 1/4 turn?

 

[mau]

Eunsoo did fine, It was better than Asian Trophy for sure. Happy for Yelim getting bronze.

I like Satoko’s program, but in the best part of the music she was doing crossovers. :gaah:

 

[Seren]

Satoko deserve her PCS, and if that program is skated clean it will be a deserved 70+.
But just, the hell? The other girls were showered with URs and downgrades but not her? So she's the one who rotated all her jumps? She's the one who rotate the best? Seriously?

Agree with this 100%. Satoko’s deserves high PCS, spin GOE, etc. But you can’t tell me her jumps were cleaner than everyone else’s. In the SP every one of her triples was marked UR- some of them looked better here but there were definitely some that the tech caller gave her the generous benefit of the doubt on.

The unfortunate thing is that this isn’t fair to Satoko- because on another day, another caller might nail her with them and when it’s inconsistent it must be frustrating to get such different scores for the same performance.

I say all of this as a fan of Satoko’s skating. I am also impressed with her for choosing this music. She isn’t afraid to go outside her typical programs (although the planets is still my favorite, that program is gorgeous).

 

[cohen-esque]

So.. here is a bit of a logic problem: Just because Satoko has UR before and just because everyone else got called does not mean she ur this time. It is a philosophically weak argument to prove that she ur last night.

Has anyone looked at the coverage closely in slow mo? Did she have more than a 1/4 turn?

At least from me this wouldn’t be an argument to prove that she UR’d; I can already see that she did so there’s no need. (And she doesn’t need to be more than 1/4th a turn short, anymore.) It’s just pointing out the double standard of her scoring vs everyone else’s, given her total lack of tech calls despite visible errors.

Without even needing slow-mo or replay, I think you can see:
3Lz< (fall)
3Lz+REP !
2A<+3T< (the second one)

And her first 2A+3T and the 3F were sketchy, too, and look borderline on closer rewatch.

.....

Anyways, what happened to Satoko’s 3Lz? The one in the SP and the second one in the FS deserved at least “!” and the other was barely on an outside edge.

 

[Jammers]

Gabby has always been a mixed bag. But after the team event her FS haven't been on. Maybe it's the Olympic individual skate that's still haunting her.

To be honest Daleman has not been the most consistent skater over her career. This is someone who still hasn't ever won a GP medal in her career yet. Makes you wonder if she's going to be one of those skaters where everything came together at the right time for her to win a world medal then never comes close ever again.

 

[largeman]

To be honest Daleman has not been the most consistent skater over her career. This is someone who still hasn't ever won a GP medal in her career yet. Makes you wonder if she's going to be one of those skaters where everything came together at the right time for her to win a world medal then never comes close ever again.

Wow, is she the first (and only) world medalist (in the ladies' discipline, but I'd also be curious about other disciplines) to never have won any GP medal?

 

[yume]

.....

Anyways, what happened to Satoko’s 3Lz? The one in the SP and the second one in the FS deserved at least “!” and the other was barely on an outside edge.

I wonder too. A ! on the flip wouldn't have been so surprising since she had not a real flip. She fixed the edge apparently since she didn't get calls last season. But it seems like by fixing the edge of the flip, the lutz edge is going more flat.

 

[Mrs. P]

Wow, is she the first (and only) world medalist (in the ladies' discipline, but I'd also be curious about other disciplines) to never have won any GP medal?

Denis Ten cry was in that category -- he had won both a World AND an Olympic medal with no GP medals. He ended up winning 2 GP medals after that.

As for ladies, i'm not sure.

 

[yume]

I think that the difference between Denis and Gabby is that Denis was simply not an early season skater (at least before his two last season when he was not himself anymore) while Gabby is simply very inconsistent. Denis was most of the time better, consistent, in the 2nd part of the season.

 

[Colonel Green]

I think that the difference between Denis and Gabby is that Denis was simply not an early season skater (at least before his two last season when he was not himself anymore) while Gabby is simply very inconsistent. Denis was most of the time better, consistent, in the 2nd part of the season.

I'd say Gabby fits that description too, though. Her best results are always in the second half of the year (though there are also external factors at play there sometimes, e.g., the surgery she had before the start of the 2017/18 season).

 

[Roo87]

Gabby just always has a reason for her bad skates. She had pneumonia, she had surgery, she sprained her ankle, she got dumped.