2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

Jontor

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I hope RusFed remenber last season when Gubanova was denied her rightful spot at the GPs. Both she and Sotskova qualified, but RusFed chose to give it Sotskova.

So, RusFed, this is your chance to redeem yourselves. Give Gubanova a spot at the Rostelecom Cup!
 

silveruskate

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Sorry, but the only reason I had to mention Rozanov, is because it's been rehashed everywhere multiple times, that he's THE coach that got all quads and 3A in TT, the big loss for that team and so on. I don't disagree he's a talented coach, I'm sure he has a lot to offer to skaters and skating world, but the fact that people seemed to completely minimize Dudakov's work and input, making it look like a young coach with a 3-4 years of real coaching experience was teaching Dudakov how to teach jumps (and not the other way around), has rubbed me the wrong way the whole time. People have provided multiple examples, that first quads were taught prior to Rozanov even stepping foot there, but it did look like some were largely persuaded otherwise. So I felt like Dudakov FINALLY deserves some credit for at least Lyuba's 3A and can come out of the shadow of the "beauty king of Russia".
No offense, but this is talk from Dreamland. Hardly anyone is saying Rozanov is the master jump expert teaching everyone quads and 3A so I have no idea where it is being rehashed everywhere. And as far as making it look like he was teaching Dudakov?? The idea that Dudakov is this damsel-in-distress finally getting credit for his work really does make me laugh.

My understanding of the situation is Rozanov has had more media attention recently because of his coaching school change, (he hardly had any attention on himself before) but someone can correct me if I'm wrong. The second side of the media reports is that Aliona learned the 3A with the help of Rozanov and wanted his help to get it back. Now, if she learned the jump really well with Rozanov then no reason why she shouldn't go to the person she prefers. None of this means Dudakov can't teach jumps.

I didn't want to get into this discussion, but this really is too much!
 

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No offense, but this is talk from Dreamland. Hardly anyone is saying Rozanov is the master jump expert teaching everyone quads and 3A so I have no idea where it is being rehashed everywhere. And as far as making it look like he was teaching Dudakov?? The idea that Dudakov is this damsel-in-distress finally getting credit for his work really does make me laugh.

My understanding of the situation is Rozanov has had more media attention recently because of his coaching school change, (he hardly had any attention on himself before) but someone can correct me if I'm wrong. The second side of the media reports is that Aliona learned the 3A with the help of Rozanov and wanted his help to get it back. Now, if she learned the jump really well with Rozanov then no reason why she shouldn't go to the person she prefers. None of this means Dudakov can't teach jumps.

I didn't want to get into this discussion, but this really is too much!
Well then there are some people from the dreamland here and generally on the internet. I ignored the message that “Sasha couldn’t learn 4Lo because Rozanov was away”, from another dreamland user, because she never said that, and I have translated what she said before. It’s just another example, where Rozanov is given the credit due to wishful thinking. There were many more in this thread before.
 

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I don’t think what Sasha has achieved, in terms of number of quads she learned, will ever be something „normal“ - meaning something all ladies one day will be able to repeat. Sasha was, is and will be exceptional in that, imo. But if there’s a lady I think can repeat that and land/learn just as many quads, it’s Veronika.
 

brakes

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Any translations available?
Two excerpts on "sports.ru" through google translate:

- You already have huge, colossal successes, but do you have a global goal?

- Yes, I believe that my path in sports is just beginning, and I do not have everything that I want to implement. I want to learn new elements, develop. Improve the programs in general to make them more interesting and learn new elements.

For example, I am currently working on a triple axel. This jump is harder for me than quadruples. For me, it will be a victory over myself if I can make this jump in training and then insert it into the competitive program.

Also, of course, global goals - the Olympics, for example. This is the most important start for any athlete. Of course, I would very much like to qualify for the Olympics, to show the maximum of my capabilities there.

I have never been to the World Cup, since the previous one was canceled due to coronavirus. Therefore, of course, this remains an unfulfilled goal that I will strive for.

- Who supports you the most in such ambitious goals - subscribers, fans, or maybe someone close?

- Of course, these are close people. I come home and know that there are people there who support me in everything. Of course, it's hard for me too. Something doesn't work out, I get upset. And it is very important that my family is very supportive of me in what I do.

The coaches at the rink, of course, also give a lot, teach new things, also always support, help to tune in to the competition.

And fans, from social media, I feel a lot of support. At competitions, when you finish the program, you have a lot of emotions, you look at the stands and see posters with your name: people come, cheer for you, throw toys on the ice.

Children who run and say, "I want to be like you." And you feel such a rush, charge, immense motivation to do something further. The fact that in the most difficult moments helps not to stop, to move on, - said Shcherbakova live for Nike.

Two-time Russian champion Anna Shcherbakova told who she would like to see as her partner if she decided to try herself in pair skating.

“I think it would be cool if there was an opportunity to perform in a pair with some cool singles. For example, with Nathan Chen, who now, one might say, is moving the history of figure skating forward.

On the other hand, I am amazed at the girls who go to pair skating because I am very afraid. Personally, I have no idea how you can make support, for example. I am very scared even when I look at the guys from the side.

I always turn my back when some support starts, when they are lifted up. I am much calmer when on the ice I am responsible for myself, I know exactly what I am doing, and I don’t depend on anyone, ”Shcherbakova said in a live broadcast for Nike.
 
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Scott512

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Losing Super Sasha and Princess Aliona are devastating losses for TT and EG. But losing Veronika may be the greatest loss of all. She already has it all and does the toughest jumps possible like they are nothing. Nobody knows what the future holds for her but the sky's the limit.

Congratulations to Sambo-70 on their 50th anniversary. But it's embarrassing that such a momentous occasion and anniversary was marred by the controversy of their not inviting the reigning and defending Olympic and World Champion to their celebration. If it was the 10th anniversary or the 20th or the 30th I could see missing it but the 50th Anniversary you have to invite one of your greats. They didn't.
 

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Yes, as much as I LOVE Talalaykina, there is no way she could have been third with those URs, and with only a 6 triple program.
We mustn't forget that the judges also were kind of harsh with Khromykh. Her 4S attempt was downgraded to a 3S, which also meant that she had a 3T invalid at the end of the program because of the Zayak rule. She lost a HUGE amount of points because of that.

Edit: Come to think of it. That is bad strategy from the Eteri camp. Maybe they had a plan B but Maiia forgot about it? Fact remains, if she doesn't make the 4S she needs to change the rest of the program to avoid the Zayak rule. Maiia didn't do that. As it turned out she did two 3Lzs, 3S and 3Ts. I hope they learned the lesson.
thats not the way the Zayak rule works,

If she rotated 1/4 above a 3S it'd have been called a 4S<<, and unless she did another 4S attempt she'd be unaffected by doing the 4S attempt in terms of Zayak.
 

eliana

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Losing Super Sasha and Princess Aliona are devastating losses for TT and EG. But losing Veronika may be the greatest loss of all. She already has it all and does the toughest jumps possible like they are nothing. Nobody knows what the future holds for her but the sky's the limit.

Congratulations to Sambo-70 on their 50th anniversary. But it's embarrassing that such a momentous occasion and anniversary was marred by the controversy of their not inviting the reigning and defending Olympic and World Champion to their celebration. If it was the 10th anniversary or the 20th or the 30th I could see missing it but the 50th Anniversary you have to invite one of your greats. They didn't.
I don't think it was intentional, just a bad organization
 
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