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2021-2022 Russian Men's Figure Skating

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It’s called plausible deniability!

Aide to Kogan: Wait, did we tell the Croatians?

A random Croatian dude tagged to comment about it: What? Why me?
Putin: "Russia does not engage in the sport of figure skating!"

But, and I'm not kidding, here are the real statements taken from sports.ru:
Tatiana Tarasova: "We wish Dmitriev a happy journey. We lose our children - we have fallen out of love with them and do not accept them. "
Alexander Zhulin: "Late Dmitriev started a change of citizenship, he is almost 30. It's not a strong acquisition for Team USA."
Irina Rodnina: "Who said that Dmitriev will play for the United States? The team still needs to be selected. And he had citizenship a long time ago."
Zhurova about Dmitriev's transfer to the US team: "The question arises: is it patriotic? Not for the fans."
Dmitry Guberniev: "The transition of Artur Dmitriev to the United States is an extra lesson for all of us. We need to create conditions on the ground."
Dmitry Svishchev: "The transition of Artur Dmitriev to the US team is a recognition of the leading role of the Russian figure skating school"
Artur Dmitriev Sr. on the transfer of his son to the US team: "Honestly, I do not see much prospects"
Ilya Averbukh: "I think in the USA Dmitriev has no professional prospects. The transition is more of a story just for the soul."
Nina Mozer: "When playing for Croatia, Dmitriev would have a chance to perform at the European and World Championships"

Honestly, tomorrow I expect an article about what the Russian Men's Thread thinks about the whole business on sports.ru...
 
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Ru-Me Thread: That’s the most we’ve been talking about Dmitrieev, like, ever.
 
From non-Russian male skaters, iirc Uno acquired 3A late, and iirc after quad.
Nathan Chen is another (sort-of) example - not sure if he got the 3A before or after his first quad, but it was very hit-or-miss until after the 2018 Olympics. Even then, he wisely doesn't do more than the minimum with it (1 in each programme, no combos, just making sure to land it clean).

This is not just case with Makar though. Lots of Evgeni Ruhkins former students showed similar traits. Big jumpers, lack of stamina. Same with some of the women he coached.
I wonder if it's due to a lack of programme runthroughs? Most skaters do cardio but it seems like the approach to run-throughs/competition simulations varies a lot by coach. There's nothing quite like actual skating for building skating-specific stamina (I thought jogging and skipping during lockdown would help, but nope, still had my Makar moments when the rink reopened :dbana:)
 
Now the remaining Team Mishin athletes Kolyada and Lutfullin (and Liza T.) also withdrew from Cup of Austria. There are rumours that Liza and Misha are ill and running a fever. 😭 This just sucks! And it's too late for any replacements as well (though I wish RusFed would just throw the substitute entries Erokhov and Rukhin on a plane to Austria no matter what, I'd even sponsor the tickets).
Hopefully everyone will be alright soon and it's nothing serious. I was so looking forward two my first live competition in almost two years, but now it's just meh... :(
 
Now the remaining Team Mishin athletes Kolyada and Lutfullin (and Liza T.) also withdrew from Cup of Austria. There are rumours that Liza and Misha are ill and running a fever. 😭 This just sucks! And it's too late for any replacements as well (though I wish RusFed would just throw the substitute entries Erokhov and Rukhin on a plane to Austria no matter what, I'd even sponsor the tickets).
Hopefully everyone will be alright soon and it's nothing serious. I was so looking forward two my first live competition in almost two years, but now it's just meh... :(
Well you can still watch all the Austrian skaters live and wish them well. Watching figure skating live will still be fun. I feel bad that your favorites withdrew.
 
Well you can still watch all the Austrian skaters live and wish them well. Watching figure skating live will still be fun. I feel bad that your favorites withdrew.
Yeah, you are right of course. It was my initial disappointment speaking in my post above. Of course there will be other great skaters I'll enjoy. It's just that I see the Austrians at least once a year at nats, but it's not so often that I have the Russians at my front door.
 
Onwards to more pleasant topics. Here comes the overdue picture from yesterday's men's podium at Cup of Russia Stage 4.
Vladislav Dikidzhi 🥇, Andrei Lazukin🥈, Andrei Anisimov🥉

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Congratulations to the medallists and all the other skaters!
 
Now the remaining Team Mishin athletes Kolyada and Lutfullin (and Liza T.) also withdrew from Cup of Austria.
To add to the confusion it looks like Zhenya S is back in? It's like the Hokey-Pokey!

There are rumours that Liza and Misha are ill and running a fever. 😭
Fingers and toes crossed that it's not anything serious!

In other news the Junior Mens event is under way at the Russian Cup 4th Stage. Mark Lukin is in 5th after SP, I enjoyed his program he's very light on his feet and he sure has a good 2A, hopefully he can upgrade to a 3A.

Kirill S tried a 3Lz-3Lo combo! I think it might have been under, but I love that step sequence :biggrin:

I was most impressed with Nikita Sarnovsky though, last I saw him he was struggling quite a bit, but he looked good today. Love the program, but you know me ;)

Still not sure how much of the FS I'll get to see, dang time zones, but hopefully some of it.
 
It just occurred to me that it’s the second time Ignatov gets NHK, I guess they like him there? And as good a short skate as he had this season, so yay! 🌸

Now I really want to see both live, because I bet with that height, they both look pretty spectacular on ice with big jumps.
 
I found this little fact from skatingscores interesting given Russian men's reputation ( possibly deserved ;) ) with spins. Guess who had the highest scoring spins in the LP at NHK?

Samarin and Ignatov were both doing their best to skate clean, balanced programs. I really appreciated it, particularly with Samarin’s attention to step sequence. Getting two level 4 from that technical panel was no mean feat. And, honestly, Ignatov’s two skates were probably the best performance by a Russian senior man this season. Zero falls, 4x4 in the free, two quads in the short. Really worth acknowledgment. I hope he keeps gaining, and is actually capable of at least an average spin…

Hope at least one of them would be invited into the Gala…

Honestly, the Japanese outing went better than expected. I dread France even more now.
 
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I wonder if it's due to a lack of programme runthroughs? Most skaters do cardio but it seems like the approach to run-throughs/competition simulations varies a lot by coach. There's nothing quite like actual skating for building skating-specific stamina
It's true that especially Makar always looks wiped out in the second half of his FS, but then again, I often think to myself that these coaches have lots of experience on how to condition their skaters. Maybe it is a fine line to walk between doing full program runthroughs and over-training? From the impact alone, there are considerable forces acting on the joints and bones of a 70-80kg guy jumping quads. There probably is a limit to how many quads they can do each day without risking permanent damage to the back and hips. I imagine that it could be somewhat easier for the smaller, lighter skaters, where the impact of the jumps doesn't put as much strain on the body.
Samarin and Ignatov were both doing their best to skate clean, balanced programs.
From some comments I read, I thought that Makar must have completely messed up his spins, so I was pleasantly surprised that he just missed some levels. Both Makar and Sasha gave it their all in the FS, kudos to them! I also have to mention from time to time that I have a soft spot for Sasha's camel spins, he just hits the position and never drops his free leg below the hip. 😍 And the 4Lz of course is a beauty and a beast!
Honestly, the Japanese outing went better than expected. I dread France even more now.
Honestly, I don't even dread GP France anymore, because by the time it comes around I will be totally numb from the Warsaw Challenger. :dbana:😅 Like I know Lyosha and Ilya are there to get minimums for Europeans and Worlds, but what if they do brilliantly and bring home all the medals? Or what if one of them has a bad day and gets buried? What will RusFed do when RusNats come around? Do they already have an international team in mind, or would they be open to new additions? (And yes, I totally feel like I'm on a nickname basis now with Erokhov, ever since I spent an afternoon adding over 100 links to his GoldenSkate media profile, including from when he was a baby skater in a pink frilly outfit performing to Austin Powers. Be glad that he didn't decide to bring back that costume! 🤣)
 
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