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I agree that if Sasha can perform triples without further injuring herself, or feeling pain, it might be worthy to do so. Work on the choreo, reap those PCS, get a medal so she's still in contention for GPF. Skating is also a reputation game, and Sasha wants to be in everyone's minds from the get go.
I agree with this but apparently Sasha doesn't want to water down her content and she rather WD if she cant do her quads. Shame cause her triples looked good and with her reputation a clean triple program with 1 quad attempt to get rid of the 2T in one of the combos would most likely bring her a medal anyway.
 
WD looks to me like a better choice. Why bother with GPF anyway. Her competitors for Olympics currently are weaker apart from Valieva.
I have no doubts she goes to Beijing. It is not just about her high scoring ability but most importantly Trusova clearly has future in figure skating unlike her peers. The only thing that could drop her off the team is injury.
 
I don’t think it’s realistically an option to WD.
I don’t think any of the Olympic contenders can have a luxury of withdrawing from GPs to be honest.
If she WDs, she’s not making it to GPF. The only chance she’ll have to earn her spot and prove herself will be nationals, where she has to be 1 or 2 to leave no room for debate and for Rusfed to ignore her absence from GPF. The most realistic option is to skate what she can, maybe 1-2 quads tops, and likely it is enough to win, given her quality of triples.
 
Someone on another site said she'd be disqualified for doing that
is there any official rules about it ?
No. It would be unfair because it would favour skaters whose federations have the money to allow for extra practices. This way everyone gets the same amount of training/runthrough/warmup time. In addition, tech/staff/etc use the training time to practice for the event as well. (They get acquainted with skaters patterns/elements/etc.
I thought so too but if the situation was like simone biles (in the case of skating, they basically just can't seem to jump ? ) would it be possible ? Bcs simone was allowed to have private training outside of the olympic venue which still weird me out bcs I thought they were supposed to be in a bubble.
 
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I thought so too but if the situation was like simone biles (in the case of skating they basically just can't seem to jump ? ), would it be possible ? Bcs simone was allowed to have private training outside of the olympic venue which is still weird me out bcs I thought they were supposed to be in a bubble.
That's different as, after all, Simone went to the official practice (podium training) for the events she did do. She was at podium training and she did the warm up for beam. She withdrew from everything else.

Sasha would be free to practice privately before the official practices began just not after.
 
I lived in Dallas a long time ago and I can't remember if it was a Skate America or a Nationals, but during one big competition, and I think it was Nationals, some skaters after hours would come to my rink at the LeMeridien to practice. I always thought that was probably "illegal" but I didn't say anything. However, I can't imagine being a competitor and thinking I could get away with it. Who's to say no one else was staying at that hotel also? I don't know what the punishment is if someone was caught? Disqualification?

(I am not "baiting", but merely stating my opinion, thank you very much)
 
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I lived in Dallas a long time ago and I can't remember if it was a Skate America or a Nationals, but during one big competition, and I think it was Nationals, some skaters after hours would come to my rink at the LeMeridien to practice. I always thought that was probably "illegal" but I didn't say anything. However, I can't imagine being a competitor and thinking I could get away with it. Who's to say no one else was staying at that hotel also? I don't know what the punishment is if someone was caught? Disqualification?
They can't have more practice hours in the ice of the competition ... but in other rink there is no problem. In the GP, that was never a question because they are in different cities, two days maybe three most .. and most cities only have only one ice rink (and some none) except for russia... Maybe I'm wrong but I remember some federation ( i think was the japonese) renting an ice rink in the olympics in an different city.
 
I hope Sasha (and Eteri) will be able to see the bigger picture at stake and go for a simplified content; even just triples should be enough for her to win the event and put one foot in the GPF, which is of paramount importance to do in order to make a case for the Olympic team in a country with such a deep bench. I hope that they don't get carried away with consolidating her image as Quad queen and instead they preserve her and her health for the bigger and more important battles ahead. That said, good luck to all the skaters and to all the Russian ladies at Skam!
I doubt that she will win without quads. The problem is that sasha won't get PCs without the 4 .. her FP is base on the 4 ( the program is empty without them). A Sasha without quads against a perfect daria or the jpn ladies will loose.
 
WD looks to me like a better choice. Why bother with GPF anyway. Her competitors for Olympics currently are weaker apart from Valieva.
I have no doubts she goes to Beijing. It is not just about her high scoring ability but most importantly Trusova clearly has future in figure skating unlike her peers. The only thing that could drop her off the team is injury.

Hmmmm, when was the last time Sasha won anything major? Junior Worlds? Her competitors for Olympics have proven themselves more stable under pressure and actually capable of performing well at RusNats, Euros and Worlds. Speaking about future, anyone who jumps quads like crazy with this kind of body is asking for trouble, I'm afraid...
 
WD looks to me like a better choice. Why bother with GPF anyway. Her competitors for Olympics currently are weaker apart from Valieva.
I have no doubts she goes to Beijing. It is not just about her high scoring ability but most importantly Trusova clearly has future in figure skating unlike her peers. The only thing that could drop her off the team is injury.

Glad her fans feel that way, but if Eteri or the Russian Fed had no doubts about her going to Beijing i think they would force a WD and not leave it to her and let her risk possibly injuring herself further

Trusova may have helped usher in ladies quads but as a senior she has 0 major victories and numerous splatfests under pressure.
 
If she WDs, she’s not making it to GPF. The only chance she’ll have to earn her spot and prove herself will be nationals, where she has to be 1 or 2 to leave no room for debate and for Rusfed to ignore her absence from GPF. The most realistic option is to skate what she can, maybe 1-2 quads tops, and likely it is enough to win, given her quality of triples.
That's another good point in favor of not withdrawing. RusFed will definitely look at other competitions apart from Nationals, and the only competition with most/all contenders present prior to Nats will be GPF. If Sasha finishes 1st/2nd in Nationals, good news, but if she doesn't, only one GP event won't look too good when deciding who gets 3rd spot.
 
Glad her fans feel that way, but if Eteri or the Russian Fed had no doubts about her going to Beijing i think they would force a WD and not leave it to her and let her risk possibly injuring herself further

Trusova may have helped usher in ladies quads but as a senior she has 0 major victories and numerous splatfests under pressure.
It's a good point of view... I think if were Kamila the russfed wouldn't think twice
 
I really hope Sasha doesn't withdraw. I watched the practice a couple days ago and she was still jumping triples without issue. She'd probably need at least one quad to win, but she can definitely get on the podium with just triples. I hope she just bites the bullet and does easier content this week because withdrawing does not look good.
 
I really hope Sasha doesn't withdraw. I watched the practice a couple days ago and she was still jumping triples without issue. She'd probably need at least one quad to win, but she can definitely get on the podium with just triples. I hope she just bites the bullet and does easier content this week because withdrawing does not look good.
The question is, if it could make the injury worse if she skates at skate America on it or not. We don't really know what exactly she has but I can't be the only one starting to get flashbacks to 4 years ago ?
 
And some thing on sashas dress, which I can't believe they actually let her go out with this , or any of the othe2r girls. I mean not one dress screams Olympic season, rather the opposite, the dresses are bad, compared to 4 years ago, . Why didn't they just go with a better version of sashas unstobbable dress ? Because when I saw her hair and the dress in 2019 I actually at first thought she would do soemthing that has to do with cruella .
 
And some thing on sashas dress, which I can't believe they actually let her go out with this , or any of the othe2r girls. I mean not one dress screams Olympic season, rather the opposite, the dresses are bad, compared to 4 years ago, . Why didn't they just go with a better version of sashas unstobbable dress ? Because when I saw her hair and the dress in 2019 I actually at first thought she would do soemthing that has to do with cruella .
Yeah, almost all costumes are a bit disappointing, either too basic or too experimental. They're not super bad, but each girl has had better dresses before. Or maybe I have been desensitized by Olga's tie-dye - straps - open shoulders - lace details style.
 
The question is, if it could make the injury worse if she skates at skate America on it or not. We don't really know what exactly she has but I can't be the only one starting to get flashbacks to 4 years ago ?
I'm thinking the same and hoping that everything goes for the better for Sasha... the main difference between her and Evgenia is that four years ago Medvedeva already secured a place in the Russian team with her impressive previous resumé and her consistency under pressure, while Sasha is only one of the big contenders among others, albeit the one with the greatest scoring potential if clean.
Unfortunately, Covid didn't help any of the Russian ladies in getting an impressive body of work that could help rest their case for the Olympic team (with the exception of Anna, if they want to reward her for the 3 Nats and world win); everything will be decided in the upcoming months and I'm sure that RussFed is carefully monitoring every competition to evaluate their level of preparation, consistency and ability to skate under pressure. So I disagree, GP series and GPF matter a lot for Sasha and every other Russian ladies.
 
At this point, I‘m not even sure what the best strategy is for Sasha. On the one hand, she can still land triples quite well (though the landings looked harder than usually) and would win a medal with a clean triples layout, maybe even Gold. On the other hand, I‘m always worried about ankle injuries during the Olympic season. I know the situations aren‘t comparable but when Medvedeva pushed through in 2018 to skate at her GP events, she ended up with a broken bone that forced her out of Nationals entirely. For Sasha, that would be the end. Medvedeva made onto the team because of her reputation and the fact that only Zagitova was on the same level. But the field is just so stacked now that if Sasha doesn‘t skate at Nationals, she misses the Olympics. Period. So, with that being said, it might be better to give up on the GPF and take the hit in momentum but ensure that she‘s 100% fit for Nats. Idk. The whole situation sucks. I want her (and/or Aliona) to make the Olympics… :(
 
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