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That's actually very interesting, thank you. I'm not familiar with Kolesnikov but I remember Kulikova from the JGP and liked her a lot. Now, if only Aliona had joined them…
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As in, Sokolovskaya just took in two nextgen with very serious potential, so there will be no real reason for Kostornaya to go there. Kolesnikov was TT’s ‘next Samsonov/Plushenko/saviour of RusMen’ material.
Not surprising neither party, coaches or Kostornaia, seemed thrilled this last season and I thought it was a recipe for disaster that Eteri said Diana had to convince her to take back Kostornaia last year (i don't remember her exact wording but that was the gist of it).
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That reasoning makes no sense to me. Who else does Sokolovskaya coach? Samarin, Urushadze and Kondratiuk? Even with those two newcomers, that's not a big group. In comparison, Mishin has Semenenko, Kolyada, Luftfullin, Samodurova, Gulyakova, Tuktamysheva and Dmitrieva just from the top of my head.
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Not all of them starting at once though.
Perhaps Sokolovskaya wasn't an option? Maybe she didn't want Kostornaia or maybe Kostornaia didn't consider her
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I hope this was talked about. At least EG wont be angry this time. I hope not.
Aliona never should have gone back there. That apology tour she was on was sad. At least AK wwont be smothered by other super girls at CSKA. She will have the chance to shine again.
I would have preferred Aliona went to Davydov.
Ivan Urgant pretty much had his show canceled for coming out against the war. If you go on Anna Shcherbakova's Instagram right now you can see photos of her at his studio but her appearance never actually got to air on television. She was there on February 22nd(day the Donbass republicans were "recognized"), she posted the photos on Instagram on the 23rd, the mass invasion began the 24th which is when Urgant posted his opposition on Instagram, and the episode was suppose to air on the 25th but it never did.
Выпуск «Вечернего Урганта» с Щербаковой, Большуновым и Вяльбе не вышел в эфир в запланированный срок
Выпуск программы «Вечерний Ургант» с чемпионами Пекина-2022 Анной Щербаковой и Александром Большуновым не вышел в эфир 25 февраля.
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Which is why I am a bit worried about Yagudin and Mamun. But there's too many people who have publicly opposed the war for everyone to be canceled.
I think whether they are for or against the invasion is a bit of a misnomer. It's whether or not they trust Putin on the invasion. People may not like that the invasion is happening but accept Putin's logic on the necessity of it. They live in a completely different information environment than you and me. Historically, Russia has had to deal with many different invasions from the west. They've seen an ally in Serbia be destroyed by NATO. They've seen Donbass civilians(and far more died on the separatist side than vice versa) be killed for 8 years. I could go on and on but propaganda works and it would be a big mistake to assume all don't trust Putin's logic on the invasion. I've seen a a retired female pairs skater that does a lot of shows in Western Europe and a popular stretch coach put out a Instagram stories saying "where were you for 8 years when Donbass was being bombed".
A skater being roped into doing pro-Putin PR would not endorse the war per se... in fact, they do pretty much exactly what Plushenko's recent instagram post did. Call for peace and say they trust Putin. I'm not completely sure if Plushenko was doing PR or if it was written in a way to avoid ire from the government. Zagitova a couple years ago engaged in obvious pro-Putin PR when she endorsed a constitutional referendum(I remember Ruslan Zhiganshin put out an instagram story right afterwards where he was very angry with her doing that). I doubt she would do do anything like Plushenko's recent post but it also wouldn't entirely surprise me.
Most skaters have said absolutely nothing. Most of the top skaters don't like posts indicating what they feel about the conflict. But if you take the few skaters who have spoken up and liked posts, their coaches and mothers who have actually been less shy about liking things on instagram, and then official fan accounts which have some close relationship to the skaters then it's pretty clear that the vast majority of skaters are against the war.
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I agree with ever word. about skating and about the west and Russia My heart breaks. Its like the world is upside down.Ivan Urgant pretty much had his show canceled for coming out against the war. If you go on Anna Shcherbakova's Instagram right now you can see photos of her at his studio but her appearance never actually got to air on television. She was there on February 22nd(day the Donbass republicans were "recognized"), she posted the photos on Instagram on the 23rd, the mass invasion began the 24th which is when Urgant posted his opposition on Instagram, and the episode was suppose to air on the 25th but it never did.
Выпуск «Вечернего Урганта» с Щербаковой, Большуновым и Вяльбе не вышел в эфир в запланированный срок
Выпуск программы «Вечерний Ургант» с чемпионами Пекина-2022 Анной Щербаковой и Александром Большуновым не вышел в эфир 25 февраля.www.sports.ru
Which is why I am a bit worried about Yagudin and Mamun. But there's too many people who have publicly opposed the war for everyone to be canceled.
I think whether they are for or against the invasion is a bit of a misnomer. It's whether or not they trust Putin on the invasion. People may not like that the invasion is happening but accept Putin's logic on the necessity of it. They live in a completely different information environment than you and me. Historically, Russia has had to deal with many different invasions from the west. They've seen an ally in Serbia be destroyed by NATO. They've seen Donbass civilians(and far more died on the separatist side than vice versa) be killed for 8 years. I could go on and on but propaganda works and it would be a big mistake to assume all don't trust Putin's logic on the invasion. I've seen a a retired female pairs skater that does a lot of shows in Western Europe and a popular stretch coach put out a Instagram stories saying "where were you for 8 years when Donbass was being bombed".
A skater being roped into doing pro-Putin PR would not endorse the war per se... in fact, they do pretty much exactly what Plushenko's recent instagram post did. Call for peace and say they trust Putin. I'm not completely sure if Plushenko was doing PR or if it was written in a way to avoid ire from the government. Zagitova a couple years ago engaged in obvious pro-Putin PR when she endorsed a constitutional referendum(I remember Ruslan Zhiganshin put out an instagram story right afterwards where he was very angry with her doing that). I doubt she would do do anything like Plushenko's recent post but it also wouldn't entirely surprise me.
Most skaters have said absolutely nothing. Most of the top skaters don't like posts indicating what they feel about the conflict. But if you take the few skaters who have spoken up and liked posts, their coaches and mothers who have actually been less shy about liking things on instagram, and then official fan accounts which have some close relationship to the skaters then it's pretty clear that the vast majority of skaters are against the war.
These Russian skaters need to skate whether its show or the channel one cup. Or create more events.
That these amazing athletes are paying. the price for Putin is staggering. I am okay with them not wanting to go against him.
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Interesting that Anna changed skates 5/6 times per season recently because of quads. So it looks like she could handle the Olympics problem well enough. Didn't want to mess with another brand at the time but no doubt she's smart to know she has to change and she alluded to it that she will.
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As soon as Eteri said "if Aliona can miss all her chances in life and still be successful good for her" she was just waiting to kick her out. Comments like these are so rude it's unreal. Aliona just kept her head down and said nothing because she knows she has no power and really it isn't worth it. Maybe some day she can write a book with all the details on Sambo, can't miss all your opportunities, right Eteri? It's so weird because Eteri said herself how she didn't train when she was younger and was 1000x lazier than Aliona has ever been....but clearly she was able to find some success somewhere somehow. To be so blind to your own life makes me chuckle.
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And about the Zheleznyakov comments....the group never distance themselves from the words. If they wanted they could stop him easily. It has to be assumed they approve and use him to brief against Aliona. As with Daria before.
As soon as Eteri said "if Aliona can miss all her chances in life and still be successful good for her" she was just waiting to kick her out. Comments like these are so rude it's unreal. Aliona just kept her head down and said nothing because she knows she has no power and really it isn't worth it. Maybe some day she can write a book with all the details on Sambo, can't miss all your opportunities, right Eteri? It's so weird because Eteri said herself how she didn't train when she was younger and was 1000x lazier than Aliona has ever been....but clearly she was able to find some success somewhere somehow. To be so blind to your own life makes me chuckle.
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And about the Zheleznyakov comments....the group never distance themselves from the words. If they wanted they could stop him easily. It has to be assumed they approve and use him to brief against Aliona. As with Daria before.
I don't think its a recent situation with her replacing boots often, I vaguely remember her mentioning before she did quads she could go a whole season on a pair of boots. With the Olympics it was probably a miscalculation of timing on replacing them because she has been injured all season so she was doing less quads but she got healthy and started pumping out more quads. Additionally she was doing a lot of attempts and runthroughs the first week at the Olympics, probably because she was hoping to get the FS of the Team event.
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So, looks like Eteri and co. indeed kicked her out.
Also, TeamKostornaia published Aliona's medical documents (according to the comments on the post, Aliona herself sent them the documents!), including her doctor's notes on the fractions. Something interesting to be found here:
Remember when Eteri said in her interview that Aliona "only" had a broken finger, thus should have competed? Well, turns out she lied. The medical documents clearly note: fracture in the palm (first one) and fracture of a bone in the wrist (second one). Now, given Eteri's so professional Daniil called her the team's nutritionist, I'm sure she can tell a finger apart from the wrist/palm.
And because I don't care and people need to see what this camp (with the endorsement of RusFed) does to these girls, I'll just leave this here:
Everyone go make their own conclusions.
https://www.another site.com/r/Figu...iona_confirms_the_coaching_change_was_eteris/
Also, TeamKostornaia published Aliona's medical documents (according to the comments on the post, Aliona herself sent them the documents!), including her doctor's notes on the fractions. Something interesting to be found here:
Remember when Eteri said in her interview that Aliona "only" had a broken finger, thus should have competed? Well, turns out she lied. The medical documents clearly note: fracture in the palm (first one) and fracture of a bone in the wrist (second one). Now, given Eteri's so professional Daniil called her the team's nutritionist, I'm sure she can tell a finger apart from the wrist/palm.
And because I don't care and people need to see what this camp (with the endorsement of RusFed) does to these girls, I'll just leave this here:
Everyone go make their own conclusions.
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it's also important to note this account was sent the medical forms from Aliona herself (in the comments).
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To be fair to the wider public, nobody believed Eteri in what she was talking about Aliona skating with a cast on her hand. It was just 100% bullcrap stupidity that could be discerned a mile away. I'm happy Aliona provided the medical documents to put this issue to a complete rest. Now we know the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
I'm still perplexed by those that support a coach instead of the skaters themselves. Kind of a wake up call. Eteri's legacy has slowly and steadily been smashed to pieces this season. I am happy I can continue to support and be proud of Evgenia, Alina, Aliona, Anna, Kamila, Sasha, Daria and Maiia. Also Sofia and Adelia. Happy days.
I'm still perplexed by those that support a coach instead of the skaters themselves. Kind of a wake up call. Eteri's legacy has slowly and steadily been smashed to pieces this season. I am happy I can continue to support and be proud of Evgenia, Alina, Aliona, Anna, Kamila, Sasha, Daria and Maiia. Also Sofia and Adelia. Happy days.
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I agree. I am a fan of the skaters, not the coach (especially Anna, Daria, Aliona and Alina). I hope that Aliona find her happiness in the new environment and that she can get back to the shape she had in 2019/2020. But even if not, I will still be rooting for her. I just love her skating.
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In fact, the December injury seems to be a partial metacarpal fracture( it's in the palm, not in the wrist) ; the recent one is a scaphoid fracture (this one is a tiny bone in the wrist indeed). However, neither of them would normally qualify as a wrist fracture - as a diagnosis, that is.
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Thank you for clarifying the medical terms. However, as neither qualifies as merely a broken finger, I think the point still stands
Thank you for clarifying the medical terms. However, as neither qualifies as merely a broken finger, I think the point still stands
Well I think its worth noting Eteri's interview she says its some bone in her finger (which an xray i can understand a metacarpal being thought as part of the finger) and full context the point she makes is its for the Olympics why not try.
I can certainly understand that Kostornaia was a very long shot at the team so maybe she and her parents made the decision to not take a risk that she fall and make the injury worse, but I can understand an elite level coach, especially one like Eteri that's not warm and fuzzy, being annoyed at a surrender and not even trying.
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I see that the coach of the year has managed to break and discard yet another talented teenager. How long will the sport allow this atrocity to continue? I'm sickened, utterly sickened.
While technically she's been shunted to another coach, I can't help but think this is probably the end of her career. Should she even manage to regain her form, how many opportunities will she be afforded, given the stranglehold Eteri has on the Russian women's (children's) field? Not to mention the scoring bonus that seems to be awarded to her athletes and her athletes only. I'd love to see Kostornaia buck the trend here, she seems to have some gumption and fight in her, but I can't help but think this is just another in the long line of Russian women skaters who's hit her (incredibly premature) expiration date.
While technically she's been shunted to another coach, I can't help but think this is probably the end of her career. Should she even manage to regain her form, how many opportunities will she be afforded, given the stranglehold Eteri has on the Russian women's (children's) field? Not to mention the scoring bonus that seems to be awarded to her athletes and her athletes only. I'd love to see Kostornaia buck the trend here, she seems to have some gumption and fight in her, but I can't help but think this is just another in the long line of Russian women skaters who's hit her (incredibly premature) expiration date.
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