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Tanya said:
I was thinking evanescence wouldn't be a wild choice for Kostornaia, its a similar vibe to Billie Eilish and twilight, that seems to be the kind of music she likes. She looks very fast but I dont see any way shes training a quad flip. Most likely thats a piece of her short and the pads are for the triple axel. I do wish they'd change that spin tho, the camel position is so nice but the catchfoot is so not.
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Agree with all of this.
As I said, wouldn't be a shock for Alena to skate to this kind if music (although I'm pretty sure she won't and also hope she doesn't, especially for the Olympic and probably her last season)

As for the 4F, yes, that would be a dream, but unrealistic for her.
She has needed months to get back in shape, now what she should hope for is to regain her full arsenal, which means the 3A.
Considering she didn't have a 4 even at her peak in the past, I highly doubt she'll ever get one at this point. Her age, string of injuries, covid, training loss, coach drama and not being able to "try out and see what happens" sth like this in the lead up to an Olympics as a Russian lady.
This story has been told to death by now, but again, if she represented any other country there would be many things to try out, wait out, plan towards etc, but not in Russia.

Which as an off topic side note, after watching the Rhythmic Gymnastics mess in Tokyo - also a discipline that's Russia-dominated and where it's insanely hard to get selected for the team + a taxing sport in which most are half-crippled in their early 20s - really makes you understand what an insane accomplishment it is for, let's say Evgenia Kanaeva, to win the Olympics not once, but twice. Only making the team twice would be insanity. (Supposedly Medvedeva is named after her btw)
 
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starlight97 said:
With her character and recent hairstyle developments I wouldn't have been surprised if this actually had been her new SP music 😅

She looks lovely and in shape, couldn't tell this apart from 2019/20 season Alena if I didn't known. Which is exactly where she'll want to be at.
I really hope she gets that 3A so she can be competitive. Same goes for Darya.
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She‘s said on Instagram that she won‘t keep the purple hair for the actual season.

The combo worries me a bit, she has to reach very low with her upper body to gain the necessary momentum for the toe. It also looks not fully rotated - q probably. I thought it was due to lack of strength last season but she‘s clearly in shape here, so maybe a growth spurt is affecting her technique a bit or something else. But her speed, one of her trademarks, is back to where it should be, which is encouraging. I‘m also hopeful for the 3A and hope she gets programs that she enjoys but that also play to her natural strengths as a skater.
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(Supposedly Medvedeva is named after her btw)
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Off-topic but according to Wikipedia, Kanaeva‘s first international competition (as a junior) was in 2003. Medvedeva was born in 1999, I doubt her parents would name her after a then totally unknown Russian gymnast. I guess you‘re thinking of Alina Kabaeva, who Zagitova is named after. Kabaeva won her first Olympic medal in 2000 and World titles before that. Zagitova was born in 2002.
 
starlight97 said:
Which as an off topic side note, after watching the Rhythmic Gymnastics mess in Tokyo - also a discipline that's Russia-dominated and where it's insanely hard to get selected for the team + a taxing sport in which most are half-crippled in their early 20s - really makes you understand what an insane accomplishment it is for, let's say Evgenia Kanaeva, to win the Olympics not once, but twice. Only making the team twice would be insanity. (Supposedly Medvedeva is named after her btw)
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Evgeniya Kanaeva would only have been 9 or 10 when Medvedeva was born, so I think it's pretty unlikely that Medvedeva was named after her. However, I totally agree that Kanaeva's back-to-back Olympic titles are particularly impressive in Rhythmic Gymnastics!

ETA: I've just spotted that @Fluture beat me to it, apologies for the duplicate post!
 



Google translate:
It became known how Russian junior skaters will be selected for the Grand Prix finals. Russian figure skaters will be selected for the final of the Junior Grand Prix based on the best total points scored during the skates at two stages, two sources close to the situation told tele-sport.ru. A corresponding change in the rules should be made due to the fact that Russian juniors will not be able to take part in the first two stages of the junior Grand Prix series in France due to severe covid restrictions in the country. Previously, the selection was based on the amount of points awarded to athletes in accordance with the places they took at the stages. According to tele-sport.ru, four Russian figure skaters in single disciplines will go to the remaining stages. Due to the fact that the remaining stages will be overloaded in terms of the number of participants, it was proposed to change the selection scheme. The initiative to amend the regulations came from the Russian Figure Skating Federation (FFKKR).
 
flanker said:



Google translate:
It became known how Russian junior skaters will be selected for the Grand Prix finals. Russian figure skaters will be selected for the final of the Junior Grand Prix based on the best total points scored during the skates at two stages, two sources close to the situation told tele-sport.ru. A corresponding change in the rules should be made due to the fact that Russian juniors will not be able to take part in the first two stages of the junior Grand Prix series in France due to severe covid restrictions in the country. Previously, the selection was based on the amount of points awarded to athletes in accordance with the places they took at the stages. According to tele-sport.ru, four Russian figure skaters in single disciplines will go to the remaining stages. Due to the fact that the remaining stages will be overloaded in terms of the number of participants, it was proposed to change the selection scheme. The initiative to amend the regulations came from the Russian Figure Skating Federation (FFKKR).
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This text is slightly incorrect. This system will be applied to skaters from all countries.
 
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Google translate:
It became known how Russian junior skaters will be selected for the Grand Prix finals. Russian figure skaters will be selected for the final of the Junior Grand Prix based on the best total points scored during the skates at two stages, two sources close to the situation told tele-sport.ru. A corresponding change in the rules should be made due to the fact that Russian juniors will not be able to take part in the first two stages of the junior Grand Prix series in France due to severe covid restrictions in the country. Previously, the selection was based on the amount of points awarded to athletes in accordance with the places they took at the stages. According to tele-sport.ru, four Russian figure skaters in single disciplines will go to the remaining stages. Due to the fact that the remaining stages will be overloaded in terms of the number of participants, it was proposed to change the selection scheme. The initiative to amend the regulations came from the Russian Figure Skating Federation (FFKKR).
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Good. And this is bound to happen with the senior GPs as well as I think IdF and SC will have similar problems.

Which means that all the JGP/GP competitions will be a whole different game. There will be no easier or harder competitions. Just competitions against the judges. I just hope the judges at different events are in unison and not all over the place...especially the technical panels who need to be fair across all the events.
 
Jontor said:
Good. And this is bound to happen with the senior GPs as well as I think IdF and SC will have similar problems.

Which means that all the JGP/GP competitions will be a whole different game. There will be no easier or harder competitions. Just competitions against the judges. I just hope the judges at different events are in unison and not all over the place...especially the technical panels who need to be fair across all the events.
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I totally agree with this system. It's even better than the usual one. Now some skaters won't get in by the luck of being in the weakest events.
 
surimi said:
Let's just hope the pandemic subsides by the time the World Championships take place. No idea how ISU could compensate some skaters for that one. :s
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They should be looking at alternative solutions right now and quite frankly from what I can see that means either: getting a bubble in France similar to what was in Stockholm, working some type of exemption with the French government (I get that FS isn't exactly the most lucrative sport but the ISU isn't without options) or moving the championships to a country that is willing to make accommodations for international athletes to come for an international sporting event.
 
Intermission time. As we all wait for better news in...like everything.

So let's watch Maria Butyrskaya's 1999 World champion skate. Different time, different sport in many ways. But here goes...and it includes a little back story courtesy of ABC

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
 
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Jontor said:
Intermission time. As we all wait for better news in...like everything.

So let's watch Maria Butyrskaya's 1999 World champion skate. Different time, different sport in many ways. But here goes...and it includes a little back story courtesy of ABC

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
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Thanks for this. Good idea -- I was actually going to ask all you all if you had any "greatest hits" recommendations as a way to cheer ourselves up.

Ah, the American networks... the masters of cheesy backstories.

One earnest question, though: why were the commentators all so confused by her 3Lo + Eu + 2S? They were like "it seemed like she stepped out of her loop landing but she turned it into a combo -- amazing!" Had they never seen an Euler before? Was it uncommon then?
 
Tonight's the Night said:
Thanks for this. Good idea -- I was actually going to ask all you all if you had any "greatest hits" recommendations as a way to cheer ourselves up.

Ah, the American networks... the masters of cheesy backstories.

One earnest question, though: why were the commentators all so confused by her 3Lo + Eu + 2S? They were like "it seemed like she stepped out of her loop landing but she turned it into a combo -- amazing!" Had they never seen an Euler before? Was it uncommon then?
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Yes, Euler combos was practically unheard of at the time. And - "She landed seven triple jumps!!" was also very very rare. The times have changed a lot.
 
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