2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating
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Finland has handled that once already so I hope it will be possible again. If not, it could be quite cruel esp. to Anna, who still can't be sure if she could skate at the IdF
Two olympic gold medalists(Pavlyuchenkova in mixed doubles tennis, Lasickene in high jump) from the Tokyo games can't get a visa to compete in the US. At this point, it's best to reallocate any Skate America spots to anyone who can travel to the US and not depend on the good will of those granting the visa applications.
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It’s not just about good will though. People need to get into the country for all sorts of reasons. (medical, family emergency, business, etc.) Visa applications take time, and someone needs to sit there and review them all. Now, certain countries do not require a visa to get into the US (and vice versa), but for others it’s very difficult. And I’m pretty sure that the visa situation isn’t great in a lot of countries either. Also, that would probably mess up all of the seeding and stuff.
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FWIW, things are backed up "the other way" as well. Americans trying to get passports are now having to wait six to nine months - it had been previously been much quicker. So the paperwork delays seem to be bad all around. Not saying that's very comforting by any means...
This is a unique diplomatic spat. Russia reduced the US's embassy staff to be equal to Russia's embassy staff quota in the US after I think the US expelled some diplomats and closed down a consulate. The US had something like 1200 staff in Russia while Russia has 280 staff(their quota is 455) in the US. While the US probably doesn't need ~3x staff it certainly needs more than equal staff accounting for visa processing alone. There's far more who Russians want/need to travel to the US than vice versa. And I'm sorry, but there's nothing that comes near Chechnya within the US. Personally, I would bet that the US wants as many public grips about visa issues as possible as a way of pressuring the Russian government to ease up on restrictions.
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Given the developments and uncertainties with the GP series, I wonder if we see some skaters forego test skates for Lombardia trophy in order to get WS points.
Yes, there's nothing similar to the drastic reduction of embassy staff that Russia has demanded of the US. They made this demand back in 2017 and it's just recently been implemented.
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Hang on, don’t call me an idiot, but for some reason I thought you meant that I was starting a unique diplomatic spat, hence the angry explanatory post. I’m sorry about that
Oh no!! Silly me, I thought that we could have a somewhat normal season this year (with restrictions and stuff but still somewhat normal).
And I see that the Challenger Nepela Memorial in Slovakia is also cancelled.
This season is falling apart...
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Let’s just keep our fingers crossed.…This season is falling apart...
Remember, while us fans might be disappointed, athletes have been training for months and years for this.
Just wondering, since France gets to host a second jgp event, under the circumstances would Russia rlly not be allowed to pick up a second event if they wanted to and no one else did? Also if they can't find another country to do it, do you think it's likely they'll split the entries among the other events and apply the same rule they're using this year for jgp - that it'll go by total points not placements?
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Im little worried for Anna Frolova and the fact that she didnt get a spot by now. After jgp Russia there is 3 jgps left aka 6 jgp spots left but if Russia wants to try to get a full Russian JGPF, which will be hard but not there is a very real possibility they can pull it off this year, all 6 spots need to go to skaters who have already competed already. I don't see how any of Nika, Sofia A, Sofia S and possibly Sofia M and Adeliya P will not get a second jgp unless they have an absolute nightmare skates which leaves 2 spots If any of Zinina, Maria Z, Daria S or Kullikova do really well in their 1st assignment they will most likely get a second one especially considering Zinina and Maria Z have a a quad and Sadkova is training both 3A and 4S and has said they should be ready soon.
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I guess that would be like the last possibility on the table to negotiate before cancelling it completely.
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Sadly, it doesn’t look like Anna is getting a spot at this rate… To the very least, she’s the last priority for Rusfed right now, imo.
They have their rockstar seniors and Anna F. isn’t one of them. They have more than enough seniors to fill up 2 or even 3 (with Ksenia!) world teams, they don’t need Anna F. as a senior.
For juniors, they probably want to invest more into their future stars. They have their rockstar juniors, most of whom are all capable of landing quads and 3As. They have those who are likely to land them soon, just by the virtue of younger age and technique overall being stronger than what Anna can offer.
Anna isn’t likely to add any of those jumps right now, she hasn’t so far and isn’t likely to make more progress as she will be 16-17, since those jumps seem less likely to happen during that period of time.
Mind you, next year Samodelkina and Petrosian will both be senior eligible, so it’s not like they need Anna as a senior at all and have to build her up, there won’t be any shortage of superstar seniors in the next coming years, even if some current seniors decide to step down from competition.
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Other russian entries are:
Sofia Samodelkina
Elizaveta Kulikova
Anastasia Zinina
Source: http://results.isu.org/events/jgprus2021_JuniorWomen.htm
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Not sure how to feel about the prospect of cancelled GP stages for the Russian ladies.
On the one hand, should it come down to the worst case where events just don't happen, it would entail the disadvantages we can all think of straight away.
But on the other hand I'd be happy to see the box "who made the GPF" lose some weight in the assessment of the girls' chances for Beijing, since it's much harder for some than for others and therefore imo not quiet fair to be drawing conclusions from, which RusFed would inevitably do. I'm especially thinking about Alena there.
But we'll see what happens.
On the one hand, should it come down to the worst case where events just don't happen, it would entail the disadvantages we can all think of straight away.
But on the other hand I'd be happy to see the box "who made the GPF" lose some weight in the assessment of the girls' chances for Beijing, since it's much harder for some than for others and therefore imo not quiet fair to be drawing conclusions from, which RusFed would inevitably do. I'm especially thinking about Alena there.
But we'll see what happens.
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Maybe they'll end up doing top-scores for GPF placements if things become a mess? I wouldn't like it but it might be the only way.
Also, not a peep out of Sambo-70 is absolutely killing me!
Also, not a peep out of Sambo-70 is absolutely killing me!
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