2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[Arbitrary]

Trusova mentioned once she sees no difference between a Rippon Quad and a simple one.

 

[Skatesocs]

I think arms overhead helps axis and rotation, but might sacrifice a bit of height/distance. Either way it seems in some cases almost like a crutch rather than the handicap that it's treated as by the scoring system.

Personally, I think it's a simplification of what's happening. Humans aren't rigid bodies. I was actually discussing this with someone, because I was all confident about the mechanics, and suddenly doubted myself due to a discussion that I think @Vilord was having here, about how it can help to jump higher - because essentially you are applying muscle power to get up into the air (even if incorrectly, because "jumping from the arms" is bad technique in skating).

What @macy mentioned is relevant, but beyond that, Rippon can easily harm rotation. An insight into why is that having to move your arms upwards to that position takes a bit more time to do, which will definitely affect the way you rotate. A barely rotated jump, in turn, will cause this:

rougher landings/lack of glide out.

HOWEVER, the judgment is in always in the panel's hands. I just think there should be a warning on the GOE criteria, to make the judges note why the rippon is there. Straightening your axis is a no, and frankly if you're doing it on every jump, it won't add much difficulty, because your body timing is already adjusted to it, and you are doing the same timing through the program (giving your body an idea of what it constantly needs to do throughout the program). Showing a tano, a rippon, and a regular rotation position would likely be more difficult.

Also, IDC what @Blades of Passion thinks, it's the Ito variation.

 

[spicymacaron]

actually since it creates a longer axis and higher center of gravity for the skater, it's a lot harder to control in the air. its really easy to get sideways in the air, you really have to be precise in your takeoff.

Sasha's 4S looks amazing.

Then I don't understand why Kamila says that she cannot keep her 3A centered without a rippon.

 

[icybear]

There's footage of Aliona as well, in the instastories of this account: https://www.instagram.com/angelinaveiraukh/

Edit: Ok, kostornaiateam reposted the instastory. Here it is!

Sounds like she's still using winter. I wonder what is the meaning of Eteri keeping her sp music from her Plushenko programs? I guess Danill G must have took it personally when Alena yapped on about getting to work with a "world class" foreign choregrapher at Plushenko whose Winter sp turned out to be a mess. Now they get to prove that homebaked Danill G choregraphy is just as good as a overpriced foreign takeaway.

 

[spicymacaron]

Sounds like she's still using winter. I wonder what is the meaning of Eteri keeping her sp music from her Plushenko programs? I guess Danill G must have took it personally when Alena yapped on about getting to work with a "world class" foreign choregrapher at Plushenko whose Winter sp turned out to be a mess. Now they get to prove that homebaked Danill G choregraphy is just as good as a overpriced foreign takeaway.

Umm... Winter was choreographed by Rozanov. Shae only did Aliona's free programs.

 

[Skatesocs]

Then I don't understand why Kamila says that she cannot keep her 3A centered without a rippon.

I think they misspoke. They would mean that attaining that position in the air takes more time (and work) than a regular rotation position. The sideways thing I imagine only becomes an issue if you haven't literally learned to jump like that from ground up - as with Valieva 3A.

 

[Imagine]

There's footage of Aliona as well, in the instastories of this account: https://www.instagram.com/angelinaveiraukh/

Edit: Ok, kostornaiateam reposted the instastory. Here it is!

Big 3F…I know she ain’t contending for gold (at least not without the 3A), but I just want to see her on the Olympic team so bad…

Also, assuming the Olympics still happens…will Russia be going as Russia or are they still doing the ROC nonsense? I’m a bit out of the loop.

 

[katymay]

Sasha triple axeling on practise.

She looks very tall? And axel looks high but rough on the edges.

She is a much bigger girl. She is heavier as well-all muscle needless to say-but definitely working with post puberty adjustment.

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

I think they misspoke. They would mean that attaining that position in the air takes more time (and work) than a regular rotation position. The sideways thing I imagine only becomes an issue if you haven't literally learned to jump like that from ground up - as with Valieva 3A.

Yeah, I remember watching a Brian Boitano where he missed his lutz but attempted it without the arm over the head. These skaters can get accustomed to doing the jump in a more difficult way, and it can become easier to do for them once they have mastered that technique.

 

[pete]

Some more news about music

Anna:

https://twitter.com/aIionas/status/1436023683793948675

Aliona:

https://twitter.com/kostobot/status/1436027951305396224

 

[nussnacker]

Some more news about music

Anna:

https://twitter.com/aIionas/status/1436023683793948675

Aliona:

https://twitter.com/kostobot/status/1436027951305396224

 

[beepboop]

It's probably stupid to read too much into rumours when we'll find out in like 48 hours but apparently Aliona has two 3As planned in the free (according to both Elena Rodina and Katya Lazareva). Fingers crossed

 

[nussnacker]

It's probably stupid to read too much into rumours when we'll find out in like 48 hours but apparently Aliona has two 3As planned in the free (according to both Elena Rodina and Katya Lazareva). Fingers crossed

I like how literally a day ago the rumor was completely opposite! Love this rumor though, please let it be true, baby Jesus.

 

[nussnacker]

Maiia keeps her SP from last season, FS is Moulin Rouge “el Tango de Roxanne”.
Daria SP “The Greatest Showman”.

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

It's probably stupid to read too much into rumours when we'll find out in like 48 hours but apparently Aliona has two 3As planned in the free (according to both Elena Rodina and Katya Lazareva). Fingers crossed

Exciting news! She had great success with the jump a few years ago, and it looked technically solid back then, so hopefully she's regained the consistency.

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

Anna is doing a Master and Margarita program. I think I'm falling in love with her all over again.

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

Maiia keeps her SP from last season, FS is Moulin Rouge “el Tango de Roxanne”.
Daria SP “The Greatest Showman”.

 

[nussnacker]

Anna SP allegedly has some eastern/oriental theme.

 

[spicymacaron]

According to Lapidarnost, Anna skated without quads and Aliona without 3As in practice. Kamila with some mistakes. So Sasha looks to be in the best shape, but well, that's usually true and then different in actual competition...

 

[karina17]

Compilation:

Sasha:
SP: Frida Soundtrack
FS: Call Me Cruela (Florence + The Machine)
4S, 4F, 4Lz, 3A, in great shape

Anna:
SP: Oriental music
FS: Master and Margarita Soundtrack
No quads yet

Alyona:
SP: Blues music
FS: Winter (Vivaldi)
No 3A yet

Kamila:
SP: Lyrical music ("her usual", not Storm)
FS: Bolero
3A, but had "A few struggles", whatever that means

Daria:
SP: The Greatest Showman Soundtrack
FS: No info

Maiia:
SP: Same as last season
FS: Tango de Roxanne
4T+3T

I don't think anything's been said about the non-Eteri girls yet.