2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating
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I’m not making any bets on anything just yet. It’s still early in the season.
In this sport, one thing I’ve learned is to not count anyone out, or make any assumptions.
It’s not over until it’s over, and it will be over by January.
Until then, it’s anyone’s game.
In this sport, one thing I’ve learned is to not count anyone out, or make any assumptions.
It’s not over until it’s over, and it will be over by January.
Until then, it’s anyone’s game.
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This thread is going to erupt with "it's discrimination against Russians" if that happens. I cannot wait.
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Thankfully, a lot of us are not that nationalistically oriented here
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I doubt it. If Alysa beats Alena, it's because the former was much better technically. If Alena is hitting her jumps, she's capable of earning GOE that almost none of the others can. Remembering her choreography will also help.
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What about Alysa beating Valieva for the gold, or that dream died already?
Still, better than some threads where one must take a walk of atonement if they don't accept their subjecthood for a queen with no clothes.
An interview may prove otherwise, of course.Aliona landed an 3A 2021 test skates -FS ... the same for Alysa Lui when was the last time she landed a 3A without ur, step, etc ... not even in 2020 .. the only true difficult field for her in the last year was USA championship .. and she lost for a skater without 3A...
Alysa has yet to prove herself .. in a difficult field ... she isn't kamila that can fall and even with that winning .. or Tuk the empress of 3A .. or be aliona who can transform a program even without ultra-c elements ...so please a little respect for the competition .... because the landing is looking good in practice that doesn't means that she will landed in competition ...
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Funny you say this, I just rewatched the top 3 at that event this morning. And while Ting was the most impressive in skating skills and technique, once you factor in the content, I thought Anna overall was better than Trusova and looked like the winner.
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She landed one at test skates less than a month ago.
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what?Still, better than some threads where one must take a walk of atonement if they don't accept their subjecthood for a queen with no clothes.
Didn't know that was a competition, but sure.
Yep. She actually used to rotate her 4Lz more than Trusova too, in that season (both prerotated beyond what was allowed, although Trusova improved on that by the next season - just that Anna got it around more). Better overall skater too, of course. Trusova... got reputation points
Anna, in my books, relatively hasn't compared to some of her teammates.Jumping off, that's still my problem with Trusova. IF she lands her quads - even just three of them - I have absolutely no problem with her making the team. She's far better than Tuktamysheva ever was and is and will ever be. But if we see something like worlds 2021, where we get a whiff of her being propped up, then no thanks. Will be praying for Kostornaia.
We'll see. While I am underwhelmed by Alëna so far this season, Alysa has been a big positive surprise. So yes, anything can happen at SC.
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Can happen of course.
But, Alena’s score at Finlandia would have beaten Liu 2 of the 3 times Liu skated this year. And her one win would have been by less than 2 points.
So, an out of form Alena has still been better more or less than Liu that’s in form and on the ascendancy.
And, if Liu gets steamrolled by an out of form Alena in Canada, brand Liu takes a major hit, not being able to surpass an out of sorts Alena. Alena is playing with house money here.
I’m more interested in seeing Liu’s scores against those that aren’t out of form, and especially how she does against the Olympic favorite.
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Would be interesting if Liu can shoot for Silver at SC. I was thinking bronze edging out Liza is the max she can hope for. Both Liza and Aliona have to falter for silver to happen. Liza is looking like she’s in a good shape, but she’s never been known for consistency.
Aliona needs to deliver better than she did at FT, and I think she’s perfectly capable of it.
Anyways, whoever of the three Russian girls loses to Liu even once during GP stages can probably say goodbye to (maybe) their GPF and (for sure) Olympic ticket. Rusfed likely isn’t sending someone, who’s losing podium spots to non-Russians to Olys. Why do that, when there will be at least 3 ladies, who won’t lose to anyone other than other Russians?
So the sweep is the bare minimum russian ladies need to keep their chances alive.
On the other hand, Alysa being 4th probably means no/slim chance of GPF.
An interesting competition ahead, lots at stake for all competitors!
Aliona needs to deliver better than she did at FT, and I think she’s perfectly capable of it.
Anyways, whoever of the three Russian girls loses to Liu even once during GP stages can probably say goodbye to (maybe) their GPF and (for sure) Olympic ticket. Rusfed likely isn’t sending someone, who’s losing podium spots to non-Russians to Olys. Why do that, when there will be at least 3 ladies, who won’t lose to anyone other than other Russians?
So the sweep is the bare minimum russian ladies need to keep their chances alive.
On the other hand, Alysa being 4th probably means no/slim chance of GPF.
An interesting competition ahead, lots at stake for all competitors!
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Confused. Why are we comparing Alena and Alysa? One is an accomplished skater with years of experience on the senior level, the other fresh out of juniors. What did I miss?
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Agreed on that but honestly, Liu is far and away the top US female skater. Like, there's not even a competition. And they will be pushing hard for her, as seen by the debut PCS she got. I only expect her scores to rise. Russia‘s not the only one who can play that game and Aliona especially is very vulnerable right now. She had a disastrous last season and underperformed at Finlandia Trophy, so I‘m not sure how much backing she‘ll continue to get by the judges. Finlandia was handing out personal bests to everyone and their grandmothers and yet she only got like 68 PCS in the FS (not that she deserved more but they easily could have, considering how lenient they were scoring). Obviously, I want her to make the podium and I think, if in better shape than she’s been so far, she‘s still clearly the better skater, but I can‘t pretend that I‘m not seriously worried. If she loses to Alysa… I don‘t know if she can even come back from that.
God, why does Skate Canada have to be such a bloodbath every season? It‘s not good for my nerves.
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I think a few of Trusova's junior gold medals could have been given to Aliona too. They barely had a pcs difference when Aliona was the much more artistic skater at those competitions.
Alysa landed three 3a on the JGP and at two successive US Nationals. She has grown five inches since then, but her 3a is now retooled for her new body and is bigger and better. Underestimate Liu at your own peril.
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JGPF 2017! It‘s a hill I choose to die on.
But that was back when quads were still a complete novelty in the women‘s field, so I guess some "bonus" for attempting them could be expected. I also remember thinking that Anna should have won JWC 2019.- Status
