2022 Olympics: Women's Free Skate

[Raatkirani]

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I think Kamila will be fine at home in Russia, thankfully. The media are calling her a hero and their military released a little video clip about her situation.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Joubert was more or less the "equivalent" of Trusova at the 2008 Worlds, not Buttle, but to answer your question, Buttle skated two clean quadless programs, whereas Joubert fell on the 3Lz in the SP (but had a clean 4T+3T), and he also popped a planned 3A+3T into a 2A+1T in the FS, plus he got two edge calls and didn't maximize his combos (he did 2 instead of 3), but he had a clean 4T.

Buttle beat Joubert by 13.95 points, so it wasn't even close, yet Joubert threw a temper tantrum and insisted that he should've been the world champion simply because he did quads while Buttle didn't (and Joubert conveniently omitted the jump errors that he made in both segments during his rants).

When I said that Trusova's anger reminded me of Joubert's, I was thinking in general terms, not the exact details. What I see in both situations is that the silver medallist (a skater who landed more quads, but made mistakes in both programs) believes that they should've won over the gold medallist (a skater with two clean programs, but had less/no quads). The silver medallist would've been the champion if they had skated more cleanly.

Augh, Joubert. Don't forget his spins too - so many level 2's. But why bother trying to get levels on your spins when all you need is to do quads and win?

Also that was some bs that his PCS was higher than Buttle's. He also got the 2nd-highest PCS in the SP with a fall. He's lucky he wasn't behind further.

These people feeling entitled to a win because they land the big tricks, and not acknowledging where they gave up points that prevented their win. So ridiculous.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

How did Miyahara fail to get on the Japanese team?

I disagree Satoko Miyahara deserved the team, but I especially felt bad for Mai Mihara.

Her score of 218.03 at Four Continents would have been 5th here above Wakaba Higuchi. And 51 points higher than Mana Kawabe's Olympic score of 166.73 (Rino Matsuike's 202.21 and Yuhana Yokoi's 185.34 at 4CC were also considerably higher than Kawabe).

Also worth noting Haien Lee's Four Continents 2022 score of 213.52 was just higher than Young's 213.09 and comfortably higher than Yelim's 202.63 Olympic scores.)

Also worth noting Audrey Shin's Four Continents 2022 score of 203.86 was 23.93 points higher than Karen Chen's individual Olympic score of 179.93 and would have placed 9th. Even Gabriella Izzo's Four Continents score of 180.06 was higher than Chen.

(I get it's not the same events but Olympics does have generous PCS but this just goes to show that Nationals doesn't necessarily mean sending your best skaters to the Olympics. A skateoff at 4CC might have actually produced better results.)

 

[lupojohn]

The stuff I am reading about Eteri is disturbing.

I just want to give Anna, Alexandra and Kamila a hug right now and tell them everything will be OK.

 

[sailormoon]

Trusova was beaten by Shcherbakova because of the 6-point advantage the gold medalist had after the short. Trusova's free skating score was the second highest in history. It is time to allow a quad in ladies' short program like men's short program. Sakamoto was incredibly lucky to finish third as she acknowledged. Sakamoto managed to pull it off without quads. It was the fourth Olympic medal for Japanese female skaters since Mao Asada. The TV rating in Japan peaked at 33% at the end of the event, when her bronze medal was confirmed.

 

[moonvine]

Kamila Valieva will need psychological help after some people ruined her sports career and her dream. Is this the minimal damage for you?

And those same people will do the same to other skaters unless/until they are stopped.

 

[moonvine]

Just hoping that Kamila can go home and get the support she needs to work through this. And that there aren't any recriminations from her coaching staff for her having "spoiled" the Russian sweep.

Her ..parents? would be insane to keep her with same coaching staff, I'm sorry.

 

[moonvine]

Kamilla's future is what I am worried about most, but she did not skate alone. I wonder what Eteri will do now. She is not known to be a good crisis manager, but if she really has put Kamilla in this situation she owes it to her to get her out of it. I hope she is up to the task at last.

She'll kick her to the curb for another 13 year old, are you kidding?

 

[moonvine]

Sorry not sorry but after the revelations of systemic abuse at the club, I am super disinterested and actually quite angry for the first two spots on the podium. This shouldn't be the case at the Olympics. This is a case where every single skater today became a victim of corruption. Sad, extremely sad.

Me too.

 

[moonvine]

For real?!

That's disgusting, what is WRONG with her?! How dare she...she either gave Kamila those drugs or pushed her into taking them because of the pressure and now she's criticising her?!

Heartless, cruel, vile.

Eteri needs to go, she almost single handedly destroyed our beautiful sport.

She's already destroyed Kamila, and Yulia and Zhenya and Aidan Pitkeev and a long, long list of others.

Utter poison.

She should be banned from coaching right now.

 

[moonvine]

It's not a tantrum. She's mentally distressed.

"Mentally distressed" because she won a silver? She acted like a 3 year old toddler.

 

[moonvine]

Maybe raising the age for seniors is what it takes to avoid all this drama

I've come to the conclusion that children shouldn't be involved in elite sports. 18 and up please.

 

[aa456]

Trusova was beaten by Shcherbakova because of the 6-point advantage the gold medalist had after the short. Trusova's free skating score was the second highest in history. It is time to allow a quad in ladies' short program like men's short program. Sakamoto was incredibly lucky to finish third as she acknowledged. Sakamoto managed to pull it off without quads. It was the fourth Olympic medal for Japanese female skaters since Mao Asada. The TV rating in Japan peaked at 33% at the end of the event, when her bronze medal was confirmed.

【フィギュア】ワリエワ泣き崩れ瞬間最高33・３％　坂本花織銅の世帯視聴率19・０％（日刊スポーツ） - Yahoo!ニュース

坂本花織（21＝シスメックス）が銅メダル、ドーピング違反騒動に揺れたROC（ロシア・オリンピック委員会）のカミラ・ワリエワ（15）が4位となった17日のテレビ朝日系「北京オリンピック・フィギュアスケ

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Isn't the whole point of a short program to judge all athletes on similar level of difficulty? adding quad in the SP will only give advantage to the russian ladies and make them even harder to beat. IMO this is not the direction in which figure skating needs to go. and before I get attacked for the 3A being in the SP, I didn't agree with that decision either.

 

[moonvine]

I think we all do right about now.

I don't hate the sport. I hate what a coach has done to their athletes.

 

[moonvine]

I think she was talking about her senior career. The big events.
Also, shame on everyone who accuses her of throwing a tantrum. You should try training for 12 hours a day in that camp and endure what these girls endure. Now they're not even allowed to be human.

No one should be training in that camp or under those conditions.

 

[moonvine]

If they raise the minimum age, then...we would watch Olympics a la Group 1 and 2 of what we watched today. In other words, it will be UN-watchable.

There was nothing wrong with group 1 and group 2 today. Better than all the tantruming.

 

[Fanof]

Her ..parents? would be insane to keep her with same coaching staff, I'm sorry.

If she wants to be ready for the Worlds, she must be back on the ice on Monday!

 

[moonvine]

i have a strong feeling TT will fall apart after this. friendships between the girls will never be the same. skaters will leave.

Womens figure skating has never, ever seen a low like it has today. things need to change.

If they allow them to continue coaching there will be more 11-13 year olds there. Which is sick and scary.

 

[moonvine]

I don't yet know if I watch or not, because I have volunteering jobs on Thursdays and tomorrow is pairs I did look at the results and maybe watch some skaters or groups, but I will decide later.

I am not sure if we will see Jenni Saarinen anymore at big competitions, because there are so many juniors with better technical content and they will be age eligible even if the age limit will be raised to 16. There is still Worlds, but we can see who will go.

Congratulations to Anna. I had 2/6 exactly correct on my predictions, Anna and Kaori. I think I should at least see them and some others.

16 isn't old enough.

 

[Shayuki]

If they allow them to continue coaching there will be more 11-13 year olds there. Which is sick and scary.

Team Tutberidze already has girls far younger that that, from 6 up.

However, there's not so much talent concentration there for the younger age groups, after Akatieva most of them are on different groups like Plushenko or CSKA.