2023-24 Russian Men's Figure Skating

[AlexBreeze]

 

[lariko]

Last year I thought something barely can overcome Nikolay's programs, but now I know that Nemesis actually can! I liked all the choreo and emotions, it seems to me his presentation is even more matured now. It's a really bright and powerful program that can bring to him a lot of experience. Can't wait to see it with a costume! Hopefully it will be a happy music for Kolya!

Hope so too. Last season he just needed a little bit more to finish where his abilities were putting him imo.

 

[Mariott]

Ivan Ramzenkov and Dmitriy Shelkovnikov on the test skates of the St. Petersburg junior team.

Vanya in a new costume, maybe he will have a short program in rock style?

 

[Mariott]

i love when skaters do it and these two particular skaters can also pull it of

I can't talk about the details right now, but Andrei's new programs very interesting and seems unusual. Anyway, I like it a lot, but I'm again alarmed about the jumping, there's a lot of choreography and acting. How successfully it will be combined, I don't know.

 

[Mariott]

Music from the junior short programs:

1. Grigory Fedorov. VIVA - Hallelujah (in Russian)
2. Vadim Voronov. Juno Reactor - Pistolero.
3. Ivan Ramzenkov. Genesis - I can't dance.
4. Makar Puzin. Declamation of Sergey Esenin's poem "Chernyi Chelovek" (Black Man) from the series Esenin. Propulsion, Pt. 2: Abduction by Heavy Metal Ninjas.
5. Eduard Karartynian. Moulin Rouge (The Musical); Crazy rolling - Aaron Tveit, Karen Olivo & Original Broadway Cast of Moulin Rouge! The Musical.
6. Maxim Avtushenko. Scorpions - Humanity.
7. Arseniy Fedotov. Woodkid - Iron and Run boy run.
8. Nikita Sarnovsky. Chase Holfelder - Animal.
9. Dmitriy Shelkovnikovov. Coldplay - O.
10. Mikhail Tikhonov. Unsecret - Breathe for me.
11. Nikolai Ugozhaev. Benjamin Clementine - Nemesis.
12. Lev Lazarev. Paul McCartney, Wings - Live and let die.
13. Aleksandr Chmil. Marie-Jose Lord - Les sans-papiers (from the musical "Notre Dame de Paris").
14. Nikolai Loginov. Let's have some life - Antony Genn & Martin Slattery.

 

[Mariott]

Lev Lazarev FS muisic: Ezio Bosso – Split, Postcards from Far Away (The Tea Room)

 

[Mariott]

Nikolay Kolesnikov

SP - Moonlight Sonata
FS (last season) - "Once Upon a Time in America"


Eduard Karartynian

FS Sam Smith - "Writing's On The Wall"


Mikhail Tikhonov:

FS Beethoven's 5 Secrets - OneRepublic - The Piano Guys.


Grigory Fedorov:

FS Tito&Tarantula "After Dark", Ennio Morricone "The Braying Mule", Zucchero "Baila"

 

[Mariott]

Music for free programs of juniors:

1. Dmitriy Shelkovnikov. Jo Blankenburg - Veni vidi vici.
2. Arseniy Fedotov. Black Swan - Felax; Early Adoption - Sound Money.
3. Grigory Fedorov. Tito & Tarantula - After dark.
4. Maxim Avtushenko. Woodkid - Iron.
5. Makar Puzin. Thomas Spencer-Wortley - Ave Maria.
6. Nikita Sarnovsky. Once Upon a Time in America (Soundtrack)
7. Mikhail Tikhonov. The Piano guys - Beethovens 5 secrets.
8. Nikolai Ugozhaev. Saint Laurent men's spring summer 21.
9. Vadim Voronov. Thomas Spencer-Wortley - Ave Maria.
10. Ivan Ramzenkov. Mission (Soundtrack)
11. Nikolai Loginov. Hans Zimmer - Mountains (Interstellar)
12. Alexander Chmil. Maxime Rodriguez - The ilusionist.
13. Lev Lazarev. E. Bosso - Split, Postcards from far away.
14. Eduard Karartynian. Sam Smith - Writing's on the wall.

 

[Mariott]

Andrei Mozalev - about new programs:

- Who helped you with the programs for the next season?

- Our choreographers Denis Lunin and Igor Koscheev helped us to the programs. Igor mainly deals with hands, and with Denis we work on sliding, ligaments, paths, the main line of choreography. I was also actively involved in the productions. Both programs are our joint, team work. This year we did not involve outside choreographers.

- Have the programs turned out in your own style or will it be something that we have not seen from you yet?

- The style is mine. And the music will be unusual and very beautiful, deep content, interesting choreography.

- Did you take part in choosing the music or was it suggested by Kirill Davydenko?

- Yes, I took part in choosing the music. The music for the short program was found by Denis Lunin, back in the tournament of show programs, it was the second option for my number. I was very attracted to this track then, and I told the coaches that I wanted to set a competition program to it. Kirill Anatolyevich [Davydenko] suggested the music for the free skating program.

- Will you reveal the ideas of the programs?

- This season we decided to realize our long-standing idea - to create and show one storyline for two programs, a story with a continuation and an ending. Anticipating possible questions about repeating the concept [we are talking about the libretto of last year's programs by French figure skater Adam Siao Him Fa], I would like to point out that we have been nurturing this idea for several years, but we decided to realize it only this season; it was now that all the pieces of the puzzle came together - my moral readiness, the choice of music, the intended choreography, the deep meaning. In short, the stars aligned. And this will be the story of a fallen Angel, his Book of Life.

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The short program is chapter one, the story opens with Angel's exile on Earth. He wanders in confusion and confusion towards the big city, his black wings rustling helplessly behind his back... Being sure of absolute human sinfulness and viciousness, he will long and painfully search for his way on Earth, his way of coexistence with us.

​

The second chapter - an free program - will tell about the transformation of feelings, consciousness, the bodily shell of the Angel.

People open for him from a different side, he is deeply touched by the way we are able to love, friendship, empathy. And wanting to experience the same range of feelings, he makes a difficult but unambiguous decision - he wants to become human. To do this, he needs to free himself from the cage, which has become his incorporeal angelic body, already alien and foreign. And so the wings are decisively thrown off, and for the first time in his endless life he is in great pain.

Now he is mortal, losing consciousness from the pain, he hears the sounds of an approaching ambulance... He knows and believes - he will definitely be saved.

This is the end of Angel's Book of Life - there is one more person on Earth, but that's another story...

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

So is Semion Soloviov attempting to change countries, or why is even his coaching staff acting like he doesn't exist anymore? Anyone knows what's going on behind the scenes?

 

[Mariott]

So is Semion Soloviov attempting to change countries, or why is even his coaching staff acting like he doesn't exist anymore? Anyone knows what's going on behind the scenes?

Why such apocalyptic predictions? I think we will see Soloviov in the near future at the competitions in St. Petersburg. Perhaps he will compete in the adult program. It is high time for him to start his adult career

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

Why such apocalyptic predictions? I think we will see Soloviov in the near future at the competitions in St. Petersburg. Perhaps he will compete in the adult program. It is high time for him to start his adult career

Doesn't make sense at all. Going senior or not, by all established guidelines he should have been part of the Junior National Team and Junior Test Skates ahead of some of the boys who are there. The fact that he isn't means he is either injured, in which case I think we would have had a comment from his coaching staff at this point, or he had the "apocalyptic" idea of actually trying to salvage an international career.
Those are my presumptions at least, we will see.

 

[Mariott]

Doesn't make sense at all. Going senior or not, by all established guidelines he should have been part of the Junior National Team and Junior Test Skates ahead of some of the boys who are there. The fact that he isn't means he is either injured, in which case I think we would have had a comment from his coaching staff at this point, or he had the "apocalyptic" idea of actually trying to salvage an international career.
Those are my presumptions at least, we will see.

He should not have been included in the Junior National Team as he did not qualify in the top 8 at the Russian Junior Championships. The rest of the qualifying events are for juniors under 17. It makes sense that he wasn't on the junior test skates.
Perhaps, given his successes at the FGP(R), he could have been invited to the junior skates not as a member of the national team, as Avtushenko and Puzin were invited. But, apparently, he is not so authoritative or he and his coach do not consider it necessary to show their programs now.
In September the qualifying competitions in St. Petersburg will begin, and gradually we will learn about Soloviev's plans for the next season.

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

If everything is so crystal clear, would you care to explain to me then on what basis his team mate Kolya Loginov made it into both the Junior National Team reserve and to junior test skates ahead of Soloviov?

 

[Mariott]

If everything is so crystal clear, would you care to explain to me then on what basis his team mate Kolya Loginov made it into both the Junior National Team reserve and to junior test skates ahead of Soloviov?

Because he was in the top-8 at the Russian Junior Championships, and Soloviov placed 11th. That's why Loginov is in the national team's roster (reserve) and Soloviov is not.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

He should not have been included in the Junior National Team as he did not qualify in the top 8 at the Russian Junior Championships. The rest of the qualifying events are for juniors under 17. It makes sense that he wasn't on the junior test skates.
Perhaps, given his successes at the FGP(R), he could have been invited to the junior skates not as a member of the national team, as Avtushenko and Puzin were invited. But, apparently, he is not so authoritative or he and his coach do not consider it necessary to show their programs now.
In September the qualifying competitions in St. Petersburg will begin, and gradually we will learn about Soloviev's plans for the next season.

Semyon placed 3rd at the Russian Cup Final, which is a qualifying event for the National team, so he was indeed a legitimate choice.

In a normal year, he probably would have made the reserve team, but they redistributed the spots this season.

 

[Mariott]

Semyon placed 3rd at the Russian Cup Final, which is a qualifying event for the National team, so he was indeed a legitimate choice.

Actually no, in juniors it's not a qualifying event. We have 4 qualification tournaments: the Russian Junior Championship, the Championship among girls and boys (senior age), the Zhuk Memorial and the Spartakiada. The results of the GrandPrix jf Russia finals could be taken into account when discussing candidacy, but for this to happen there must be success at one of these tournaments.

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

Because he was in the top-8 at the Russian Junior Championships, and Soloviov placed 11th. That's why Loginov is in the national team's roster (reserve) and Soloviov is not.

Ok, fair enough. And since when is it top 8 instead of top 6? Doesn't make much sense to choose top 8 from junior nationals and ignoring top 3 from the junior cup final when they are basically the same competition (in fact, qualification for the cup final last season was arguably more difficult than for nats).

Anyway, I don't think we will get anywhere here. I still believe something is up and just wanted to know if there is maybe some insider info from telegram or some such. But seems not, so we will just have to wait and see.

 

[Mariott]

Ok, fair enough. And since when is it top 8 instead of top 6? Doesn't make much sense to choose top 8 from junior nationals and ignoring top 3 from the junior cup final when they are basically the same competition (in fact, qualification for the cup final last season was arguably more difficult than for nats).

The top 6 are on the main roster for the national team, with the 7th and 8th spots considered reserve candidates.

Anyway, I don't think we will get anywhere here. I still believe something is up and just wanted to know if there is maybe some insider info from telegram or some such. But seems not, so we will just have to wait and see.

No, there is no information, I think Semyon is fine and preparing for the new season. If there were any rumors, we would already know them.

Perhaps he will appear in early September at the test skates of the St. Petersburg adult team, but I'm not sure. The event is closed, only the official report and photos are expected.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Actually no, in juniors it's not a qualifying event. We have 4 qualification tournaments: the Russian Junior Championship, the Championship among girls and boys (senior age), the Zhuk Memorial and the Spartakiada. The results of the GrandPrix jf Russia finals could be taken into account when discussing candidacy, but for this to happen there must be success at one of these tournaments.

If it is not a qualifying event, then how come Viktoria Morozova is on the Jr National reserve team? Placing 11th at Jr Nats and 7th at older age novice nationals would not be considered as success (1-8 at Jr Nats for Jr National team; 1-6 at Older age Novice Nats for Novice national team), and so her 5th place finish at the Jr Russian Cup final shouldn't be worth anything.