2024 JGP Ankara Women's SP

[Sackie]

Wow who would have expected a CAN lady to have the highest Tech score. And this was her 1st international event I believe. But maybe that was good in that she just went there and did her job with no pressure or expectations.

 

[Skating91]

Great effort from Samodelkina . 23 PCS is a little low for a clean performance that showed a maturity that had been missing from much of the session, but quite predictable for reasons no-one discusses . Inga receives the same treatment. Even Ted and Mark who are good ISU employees, were absolutely flabbergasted by poor Inga's score. They will probably get a stern talking to on conference call out of Lausanne tonight. Credit to all these girls for maintaining their dignity in the face of this.

Samodelkina was a little slow across the ice at times, but this will improve with constant training. It was her first serious competition in 18 months. She nailed her jumps especially the 3-3 combo and it was a beautiful 2A. Her spins have always been a weakness, but again this is going to improve.

If she can jump 3-3 combos without much trouble after no competition and little training for 18 months, going through a significant body transformation into an adult, then there is a lot to be positive about. She's going to improve a lot every month from here on out.

If she wasn't dinged for reasons we all understand but do not discuss , then that 57 is realistically 59-60. So a solid performance, and I think she is capable of 120 in the free skate if she's clean.

 

[Remilia]

hmm, Stefania needs to work on her pcs, which is a shocking thing to say, given she's a Panova girl (but maybe she only started training there recently)

 

[lariko]

Great effort from Samodelkina . 23 PCS is a little low for a clean performance that showed a maturity that had been missing from much of the session, but quite predictable for reasons no-one discusses . Inga receives the same treatment. Even Ted and Mark who are good ISU employees, were absolutely flabbergasted by poor Inga's score. They will probably get a stern talking to on conference call out of Lausanne tonight. Credit to all these girls for maintaining their dignity in the face of this.

Samodelkina was a little slow across the ice at times, but this will improve with constant training. It was her first serious competition in 18 months. She nailed her jumps especially the 3-3 combo and it was a beautiful 2A. Her spins have always been a weakness, but again this is going to improve.

If she can jump 3-3 combos without much trouble after no competition and little training for 18 months, going through a significant body transformation into an adult, then there is a lot to be positive about. She's going to improve a lot every month from here on out.

If she wasn't dinged for reasons we all understand but do not discuss , then that 57 is realistically 59-60. So a solid performance, and I think she is capable of 120 in the free skate if she's clean.

Both Stefania and Inga got q's on 3Lz-3T. The PCSs for all 3 of them were what you'd expect (and even higher than I expected tbh) and what they will all get for the said reasons. They have to focus on never missing levels/URs because they won't be getting PCSs comparable to Japanese/Korean any longer. Samodelkina didn't have the spin, so there is no reason to harp on her case, but the other two would be about the same score, close to bronze and 4 points off the designated winner, Nakai. There is still hope for FS, but eh. Probably is gong to be J/K JGPF, with a potential Chinese entry. But, at least, they are competing.

 

[Azikin]

Thankfully for Samodelkina this means the start and not the end of her career, considering she's representing Kazakhstan now...

 

[Skating91]

Both Stefania and Inga got q's on 3Lz-3T.

I know it's all arbitrary. The Chinese Tapei skater had second jump on the combo underotated by not even a q. You didn't even have to go to the replay for that. Mostly 2's given.

Then her flip was underrotated, but not even a q given let alone an underrotation. Mostly 2's again.

Please, go watch it you will see.

Not a criticism of the skater, just how some skaters can be hammered for anything short of a perfectly rotated jump, and others get showered with 2s for something with a clear underrotation.

Three seasons in, everything is understood by me

The PCSs for all 3 of them were what you'd expect (and even higher than I expected tbh) and what they will all get for the said reasons. They have to focus on never missing levels/URs because they won't be getting PCSs comparable to Japanese/Korean any longer. Samodelkina didn't have the spin, so there is no reason to harp on her case, but the other two would be about the same score, close to bronze and 4 points off the designated winner, Nakai. There is still hope for FS, but eh. Probably is gong to be J/K JGPF, with a potential Chinese entry. But, at least, they are competing.

I rewatched Samodelkina. Her skating skills are really good and sells the program well. Jumps were strong. Bad spins sure, but there was an American skater who did not have the same skating skills as Sofia singled on the combo and fell on another jump, the same PCS as Sofia.

 

[YuBluByMe]

Both Stefania and Inga got q's on 3Lz-3T. The PCSs for all 3 of them were what you'd expect

I expected all three to get lower PCS, but because they deserved it, especially Gurgenidze. I do think Gladki should be in fourth - she was the best of the three in the second mark - but she just doesn’t have the skating skills. Gurgenidze was heavily underscored her first junior season to the point she ended up fourth in a JGP when I felt she should have been third. She had great programs that year. But not now. She’s improved on the performance mark, but I think the problem is poor music choices. She should not be skating to a tango the way she did. Samodelkina is returning from injury and it shows. Her skating was labored and she lacks stamina, which is the reason for the rest break…in an SP. I have no idea what to expect for the free. These issues are temporary, though, so I expect for her to be stronger as the season goes on. She’s already improved from a month ago.

I don’t think there’s going to be a Japan-Korea JGPF this year. I expect Wang to qualify and there’s probably going to be a complicated tie-breaker involving the number 22 if Shin Jia and Uezono have repeat performances in Slovakia. It’s going to be tough in China, too. Gladki still has a chance, even if she’s fourth here, but she wants at least a bronze.

 

[saine]

Wow who would have expected a CAN lady to have the highest Tech score. And this was her 1st international event I believe. But maybe that was good in that she just went there and did her job with no pressure or expectations.

Megan was at Cranberry Cup earlier in the summer. She came close to getting her CTES minimums there. With her TES here, she more than made up the difference.

Hopefully she can keep it up. She tends to be stronger in the short than the free.

 

[Dreamer57]

I think Skating ISU should restrict comments on their junior grand prix videos - Sofia's video has already attracted a lot of angry comments - although most seem largely supportive of the skater

Sofia improved a lot from her summer competition. She doesn't have the speed or 'floatiness' across the ice but I think that will get better with more training. And she's grown a lot taller since I last saw her at a nationals comp! I admire her perseverance to further her skating career

I'm so happy to see Ami Nakai return! No more injuries for her and two clean skates, please!

 

[KhinSuShein]

I do not believe the ISU will score sofia samodelkina fairly even with 3A or quads, let's see. This score is expected. Even if she will do 3A or quads , they will say that it is rotated, have edge issues, or fake 3A or fake quads. Many comments on youtube critisize her body size, like she is short, her legs are very tick, fat etc. for me she has same body size of Kaori Sakamoto. The world is hypocrite and unfair. They will never ever let her win any medals at all. However, lets her experience outside world by herself. After all, there is not only figure skating profression to win your life. Let's mediocre figure skaters win the world titles in which not all countries feel our world at all anyway, so no value at all. There is a value for only those who feel their world!

 

[FlossieH]

I think Sofia's score was fair. The jumps were pretty much there, although the landings were not her best. Spins need more work, with the layback being a particular weakness (possibly relating to the back injury she is recovering from). She lacked speed and fluidity. However, she has done well for her first non-domestic competition back. She is not currently at the level she had been in the past, but that does not mean she won't get there again.

 

[lariko]

She should not be skating to a tango the way she did.

When Gurgenidze skated to the music she liked from a zombie show, she was criticized/underscored. Now I suppose she is doing a safe, bland choice that she isn't into but is good for the judges.

Since Gladki is the only one who got scored twice in 2 week's time, by two panels of 9 judges, this stuff is just hilarious.

In Czech skate only the infamous Azeri judge was down scoring Gladki to below 6 in PCSs (did Panova spit into Tutberidze's kefir I wonder? Is it coming from RusFed to show the transfers their place?).

In Turkey, Gladki was ganged up upon by the Canadian, Mexican and Turkish judges but got almost the same PCS as in Czech skate.

Amazingly, Gurgenidze passed the master of the Canadian Judge (???HOW??? did she press wrong buttons? Tried to go for 3 and made six instead?)

Dat Mexican judge hated everyone who wasn't Japanese on principle, except--I'm not kidding!--SAMODELKINA who they scored almost as high as they did Nakai. Maybe because Kazakhstan rhymes with Japan?

Like, seriously, another case of total waffle about how PCSs scoring is somehow not a total BS. It doesn't hold water, peeps. Period. And the more weight is given to it, the more BS scoring gets. That's why once the tech is put out to pasture in 2 years, the scoring is going to be lolz. Lolz to all the high-brow leet analysis about how they understand 'skating skill'. Pah.

 

[gkelly]

I've never seen a flying camel entrance that looked so much like it was going to be a flying sit.

You mean this?

I've been waiting since 1994 to see something like that again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orynB-3b1lI&t=3m43s

(I know Kurt Browning also did it sometime in 1993 or 94, but I'm not finding the example)

Interesting! Hope it works out for her.

Does a 1-3 combo count for Juniors? Seems so.

The requirement in the junior women's short program is 2-2, 3-2 (or 2-3), or 3-3.

1-3 would get an asterisk on the single, base value for the triple, and automatic -5 GOE: "not according to requirements."