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If he stays injury free
2024 Skate Canada Men's Short Program
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I had to watch the replay as I was out at lunch with my husband and parents for a late lunch.
BRAVO ILIA!
BRAVO ILIA!
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It really has become a qusdsy-wadsy enterprise. Here’s what the top 6 did.
4F and 4Lz+3Tx -- first place (base value on quad elements = 28.27)
4Lz and 4T+3T – second place (quad base value = 25.20)
4T+3T – third place (quad base value – 13,70)
4S – fourth place (quad base value = 9.70)
4S – fifth place (quad base value = 9.70)
4T – sixth place (quad base value 9.50)
No complaint, just listing numbers. Is there a lesson to be drawn there for aspiring skaters?
4F and 4Lz+3Tx -- first place (base value on quad elements = 28.27)
4Lz and 4T+3T – second place (quad base value = 25.20)
4T+3T – third place (quad base value – 13,70)
4S – fourth place (quad base value = 9.70)
4S – fifth place (quad base value = 9.70)
4T – sixth place (quad base value 9.50)
No complaint, just listing numbers. Is there a lesson to be drawn there for aspiring skaters?
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Who is going to beat Jason at Nationals? US men not named Ilia have been for the most part underachieving for years. Unless someone other then Jason shows they can be trusted to finish higher then 20th at Worlds then who can be trusted to finish high enough with Ilia to keep those 3 spots? Jason has been that skater for the last two years at Worlds.
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Quads aren't the entire story. Let's look at the rest of the field:
7th: Fall on the 3A, negative GOE on the combination
8th: Edge call on the Flip, negative GOE on the combination
9th: Negative GOE on the 3A, almost zero GOE on the combination... but his 4T was great!
10th: Fall on the 4T, negative GOE on a spin
11th: Negative GOE on the 3A, hardly any GOE anywhere else.
12th: Negative GOE on the 4S, invalid Axel, Fall on the front end of the combo.
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Jason gave two interviews this week where he said he hoped his example would inspire different kinds of skating and let other skaters know that there is a place for them in this sport.
“I want to be a voice in this sport. I really don't want the next generation of athletes growing up and feeling defeated because of an element that they might lack. I don't want people to feel, ‘Oh, I can’t land a quad jump, there is no future in the sport for me.’ Keep working to be the best that you can, keep pushing yourself to work the system in your way.”
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"I think it's incredible the way that the other athletes are pushing the sport; technically, I'm mindblown!" he said. "I'm so in awe of them. And I think what's beautiful is there's room for so many different pathways in our sport. And I think the same thing with longevity. Like, I think you don't see that as much in our sport nowadays, right? And so I think that's another big thing [for me]."
Even the most dedicated Jason fan knows that in order to achieve that, he can't fall on a 3A and flub the combo. But if he hadn't, would he be in 7th? The judges still want to reward what he does.
I hope to reward those who will follow later.
“I want to be a voice in this sport. I really don't want the next generation of athletes growing up and feeling defeated because of an element that they might lack. I don't want people to feel, ‘Oh, I can’t land a quad jump, there is no future in the sport for me.’ Keep working to be the best that you can, keep pushing yourself to work the system in your way.”
Fired Up Jason Brown Returns To The Grand Prix Series | U.S. Figure Skating
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"I think it's incredible the way that the other athletes are pushing the sport; technically, I'm mindblown!" he said. "I'm so in awe of them. And I think what's beautiful is there's room for so many different pathways in our sport. And I think the same thing with longevity. Like, I think you don't see that as much in our sport nowadays, right? And so I think that's another big thing [for me]."
Even the most dedicated Jason fan knows that in order to achieve that, he can't fall on a 3A and flub the combo. But if he hadn't, would he be in 7th? The judges still want to reward what he does.
I hope to reward those who will follow later.
Truth there.USFS should thank their lucky stars that Jason Brown is still around and competitive after all this time. He is the main reason we have 3 spots for worlds this year and if things go right he will be top 10 again he has not been been lower than that since forever. Ilia can have the greatest skate of all time but he does need another skater to get roughly a top 10 placement and the other one only has to make the long program to get the 3 spots for the 2026 Olympics wrapped up at Worlds without any further work or worry.. Jason may not be the most explosive skaters with all those quads, but it sometimes it most beautiful and heartfelt skating out there. Sometimes Jason transcends the sport and just puts art on ice. He shows that skating can be more than jumps and I love that he truly is rewarded for what he can give us. If I had to trust a skater to do a certain job like get a decent place at Worlds I would trust Jason to do it in heartbeat and to do it beautifully in the process.
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Jason gave two interviews this week where he said he hoped his example would inspire different kinds of skating and let other skaters know that there is a place for them in this sport.
“I want to be a voice in this sport. I really don't want the next generation of athletes growing up and feeling defeated because of an element that they might lack. I don't want people to feel, ‘Oh, I can’t land a quad jump, there is no future in the sport for me.’ Keep working to be the best that you can, keep pushing yourself to work the system in your way.”
Fired Up Jason Brown Returns To The Grand Prix Series | U.S. Figure Skating
"I think it's incredible the way that the other athletes are pushing the sport; technically, I'm mindblown!" he said. "I'm so in awe of them. And I think what's beautiful is there's room for so many different pathways in our sport. And I think the same thing with longevity. Like, I think you don't see that as much in our sport nowadays, right? And so I think that's another big thing [for me]."
Even the most dedicated Jason fan knows that in order to achieve that, he can't fall on a 3A and flub the combo. But if he hadn't, would he be in 7th? The judges still want to reward what he does.
I hope to reward those who will follow later.
My guess is that a clean Jason would be somewhere between 2nd and 4th. My point in my previous post is exactly what you are getting at.
It's FINE to present elements with a lower base value. And Jason has proven time and time again that these programs, when presented cleanly, can be competitive. But math is math, and when you have lower base value, you have to maximize what you present.
I kind of don't care that much about Jason's placement, although I'm sure he wants the WR points. I love the Tarzan program. It's compelling, and character-driven without being childish or cartoonish. In fact, I loved the FP version last season before he abandoned it.
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I just watched Jason, could not watch in real life. So sorry for his mistakes but otherwise he's always a pleasure to watch! Hope he'll come back strong in the free.
Jun, Sota and Shun were all great!
But those whole sectors of the stalls almost totally empty, empty rows elsewhere. And for men, of all disciplines! Really a bit shocking if you remember what it was like just a few years ago! No wonder they don't have a gala this year if it is so empty for comps. Seems like the direction the sport has taken does not really sit well with the public after all, not much arguing about that.
Jun, Sota and Shun were all great!
But those whole sectors of the stalls almost totally empty, empty rows elsewhere. And for men, of all disciplines! Really a bit shocking if you remember what it was like just a few years ago! No wonder they don't have a gala this year if it is so empty for comps. Seems like the direction the sport has taken does not really sit well with the public after all, not much arguing about that.
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Something has gone wrong with the sport in Canada. Canadian Nationals last year was empty. I've seen practice sessions with more butts in seats. I don't know what's keeping fans away.
And honestly, I think interest is dipping in America, too. But not as bad a Canada.
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Catching up on the lads now.
Gasp! Has Gogo finally returned to us?!! That was amazing from him!
Gasp! Has Gogo finally returned to us?!! That was amazing from him!
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That's nothing! I once saw someone asking if Yuzu would be at a Domestic Russian Juniors event. The mind bogglesOMG Youtube chat is terrible. Someone seriously asked if Nathan Chen was there today
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Canadian nationals last year were in winter vortex Calgary. I went to both worlds and ACI last year and they were well attended. The later it was today, the more people were at the rink. In general, since COVID, events of all kinds have not been as attended as before. Even the subway, which is finally now running at 90% percent of its capacity in Montreal.... It was so empty a couple years ago after lockdowns and remote work... It seems that some people forget that Halifax is a smaller harbour city. It is not Toronto or Vancouver.
I really liked that skate from him. He looked like he had fun with the program and he was happy after it in the kiss and cry. It's a good start to the season, hopefully he can stay healthy and keep having fun with the program.
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It really is mind boggling, and folks really ask why attendance is so lackluster? I also would refuse to buy a ticket to attend an event live in a world where Ilia Malinin outscores Jason Brown, Junhwan Cha, and Sota Yamamoto in PCS.
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Omigod, great competition so far. Didn't expect so many awesome things happening. Gogolev went clean, the tech panel finally called Brown on at least some of his URs, Cha seems in a decent shape, and both Sato and Malinin shone. Obviously, free skate is where things could fall apart, but hopefully not? Things stay as they are, would be a dream, particularly Gogolev.
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It is also pretty expensive to get to domestically at least from the West, with no direct flights and stuff. That's why we didn’t go.
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Shun, Sota and Jun did amazing, so happy for them!
Ilia has wonderful jumps and performance but squint as hard as I might, I still cannot see the skating skills and refinement that would be superior to those of Jun, Sota, Shun or Jason. I think that is why I prefer his FS this season, it seems to have a better flow and looks a little bit more refined.
Ilia has wonderful jumps and performance but squint as hard as I might, I still cannot see the skating skills and refinement that would be superior to those of Jun, Sota, Shun or Jason. I think that is why I prefer his FS this season, it seems to have a better flow and looks a little bit more refined.
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