2025 World Championships Women's Short Program

[ManyCairns]

It makes you wish for Tara

I agree. I really dislike the little girl voice.

 

[sparkle400]

It was a good day for ladies .. it's shame some scores being so overscore for some skaters (specially for the americans) ... and underscore for others like samodelikina and the japanese ladies

I thought samodelikina was underscored too.

 

[Janice4th]

Sorry- removed comment.

 

[withwings]

I was in the arena and completely agree with the standings. There is an element when seeing a performance live that you just don’t get when watching on a screen. It’s a performance quality that I can only describe as connection with the audience, the music and the performance. Alysa had it in spades. Her joy radiated up to the rafters. She definitely deserves to be in first place. Mone was able to dance her way through Donna Summer’s iconic song and the crowd was 100% with her. These qualities are seen and felt by the judges as well. It can’t be ignored. Wakaba was wonderful and strong, but not quite at the level as the other two. It’s intangible, but so important.

 

[Janice4th]

One judge doesn’t make that happen its more of a you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours

Whose back is being scratched? The Japanese don’t need it. So, who benefits from the US judges in this tit for tat?

 

[Janice4th]

What? Ahead of Wakaba? Are you freaking serious??

Wakaba got higher tech, lower PCS.

 

[museksk8r]

Wakaba got higher tech, lower PCS.

I’m aware, but I don’t agree with what the judges see in Isabeau. When I watch Levito, I see a slow skater with laboured, cheated jumps. She’s the quintessential pretty princess type, which honestly, I’m not a fan of. I gravitate more toward the Sakamoto/Glenn/Higuchi powerful warrior skaters. Isabeau should not be beating Wakaba in skating skills or performance; maybe I will give her choreography. I feel Isabeau has always been overscored and Wakaba has always been underscored.

 

[shyne]

I thought it should have been an underrotation, but for sure a q at a minimum. In fact, I question the competency and impartiality of the tech panel to not give this at least a q, and for the judges to give the combo mainly 2's and 3's.

Isabeau combo jump was a Q on the 3T, very generous score for her today ...

They even had a closer-up replay of her underrotated 3T on the large screen at the venue! I thought for sure she was going to get called on.

 

[readernick]

Honestly confused by a lot of these comments. Yes, Isabeau and , specifically, Alyssa ( because that combo was definitely q) had some technical calls ignored. But, so did the Japanese skaters. Mone has a flutz like Isabeau. Isabeau's flutz was called, her combo wasn't. Mone's flutz wasn't called her combo was. Fair enough. Wakaba also got a really blind technical panel that ignored her 3Fe and her q on the combo. Also, PCS wise, I love Wakaba ( she's one of my faves) but she has almost no transitions or performance until all the jumps are done which is why every judging panel gives similar limited PCS. She's very musically gifted but doesn't really hit other bullet points. The judges completely ignored Kaori's complete lack of commitment to her program and mistakes and gave her the highest PCS and didn't call her flutz.. So, IMHO all the American and Japanese woman were overscored and, frankly, no one was underscored in this competition. Maybe, you don't like the results but they are fair enough given today's programs and the scores of the top 10 are all close enough for a lot of change to happen in the free. I suspect a lot of change will happen.

 

[shyne]

I was in the arena and completely agree with the standings. There is an element when seeing a performance live that you just don’t get when watching on a screen. It’s a performance quality that I can only describe as connection with the audience, the music and the performance. Alysa had it in spades. Her joy radiated up to the rafters. She definitely deserves to be in first place. Mone was able to dance her way through Donna Summer’s iconic song and the crowd was 100% with her. These qualities are seen and felt by the judges as well. It can’t be ignored. Wakaba was wonderful and strong, but not quite at the level as the other two. It’s intangible, but so important.

What you are not seeing is that personality and radiance, no matter how abundant, do not translate to skating skills or jumping techniques. This is a figure skating competition, not a beauty pageant.

 

[CellarDweller]

Hello GSers!

It feels strange not being in the live chat during a competition! However, I'm enjoying every moment at TD Garden !!!!

I generally don't come this far in the competition threads, because I know what's going to be posted, complaints about favoritism, unfair judging, who didn't deserve their scores, who was under-scored.....yadda yadda yadda.

Maybe I'm a bad GSer, lol, I have no desire to take part in all that.

I will say that I appreciated what each skater put on the ice today, and my heart went out to those who didn't do their best.

And to anyone who quotes me, just be aware that I will not be coming back to this thread or responding. I have no desire to be pulled into debates.

I'm going to bask in the memories of seeing my first World Championships live! Looking forward to the rest of the events!

 

[auser]

woe-menning?

Ouch, it hurts, in the most admiring way(great pun).

 

[demarinis5]

LOL Cellar Dweller the competition threads do tend to get testy, that said enjoy your first live competition!

 

[shyne]

Honestly confused by a lot of these comments. Yes, Isabeau and , specifically, Alyssa ( because that combo was definitely q) had some technical calls ignored. But, so did the Japanese skaters. Mone has a flutz like Isabeau. Isabeau's flutz was called, her combo wasn't. Mone's flutz wasn't called her combo was. Fair enough.

I don't think it's fair to say Mone has a flutz like Isabeau. I watched it again, and that lutz looks fine to me.

 

[Mathman]

What you are not seeing is that personality and radiance, no matter how abundant, do not translate to skating skills or jumping techniques.

The Slovakian Judge (#2) was especially stingy with the composition and performance components:

Higuchi, 7.00, 7.25
Sakamoto, 8.25, 8.00
Schizas, 7.25, 7.50
Lee, 6.75, 7.00
Pinzarone, 7.75, 8.00
Glenn, 7.00. 7.50
Repond, 7.00. 7.00
Kim, 7.50, 7.00

Considering that these are the top skaers in the world, you would think that they could do better performance-wise than 7's.

 

[Mathman]

Had there been a gaping hole in the ice that all the skaters were hitting or falling into...

I once saw that very thing happen in a major competition some years ago. There was quite literally a gaping hole at one end of the ice that could not be repaired in time for the competition. Each skater was given the option of having that section of the ice cordoned off with traffic cones, or to work around it as best they could all bare-iced.

Irina Slutskaya navigated the obstacle with aplomb, even working it into her choreography, and won.

 

[CoyoteChris]

Nina Pinzarrone was my favorite, her program was mesmerizing and the most artistic in my book.
Isabeau is the queen of attention to detail. From costume to expression to choreography, everything is perfected. Mone Chiba has also one of the best choreographed programs and it worked so well with the audience!

I didn't feel Kaori's program at all She seemed way too focused.

Well, we agree about Mone and Kaori.
Kaori IMHO is tired from a long season and the last few events havent been kind to her. I think she knows the clock is ticking on her am. skating life. Stress effects the mind and skating is nothing if it is not a mind game. I am hoping she gets everything together for the FS, but the stress of having to do tricks is hurting her presentation.

 

[CoyoteChris]

Chaeyeon is so stable usually, I am always surprised when she makes a mistake on a jump. Shame it had to happen today after her great season..

And she was placed all the way down at 11th, pretty shocking.

After the warmup, I wasnt shocked at all. Something is wrong. I look at a skaters FACE and body language. I have a nickel that says she is sick or injured.

 

[CoyoteChris]

Ahhh she has been so solid all season

And this just proves every skater is human...

Yes, and as a human she can get ill, or injured, or have something really bad going on in one's personal life....When there is a sudden change, there is usually a reason. I feel for her. Anyone can make a mistake. But warm ups can tell a story as can people's body language and expression.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Was that Zoe in the kiss and cry?

It sure was!

And she was almost as delighted as Julia was with the scores!

So am I. I really enjoyed that programme.

Yes, I'm running 12 hours behind!

CaroLiza_fan