2025 World Junior Championships Women's FS
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Oh, and to finish this up - The JR Worlds spots for next season:
3: JPN
2: KOR, USA, FRA, GEO, EST, SUI, AUS
And JGP spots:
2 entries in 7 events: JPN, KOR, USA
1 entry in 7 events (plus unused spots): FRA, GEO, EST
1 entry in 6 events: SUI, AUS, FIN, CHN
1 entry in 5 events: ITA, AZE, ISR, NED, ARM, HUN, CYP, LAT, CAN
1 entry in 4 events: CZE, KAZ, HKG, LTU
1 entry in 3 events: GER, AUT, TPE, SLO, SWE, BUL, GBR, SVK, NZL, CRO, UKR, ESP, POL, THA, KGZ
3: JPN
2: KOR, USA, FRA, GEO, EST, SUI, AUS
And JGP spots:
2 entries in 7 events: JPN, KOR, USA
1 entry in 7 events (plus unused spots): FRA, GEO, EST
1 entry in 6 events: SUI, AUS, FIN, CHN
1 entry in 5 events: ITA, AZE, ISR, NED, ARM, HUN, CYP, LAT, CAN
1 entry in 4 events: CZE, KAZ, HKG, LTU
1 entry in 3 events: GER, AUT, TPE, SLO, SWE, BUL, GBR, SVK, NZL, CRO, UKR, ESP, POL, THA, KGZ
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Don't check out Kaoruko's Japanese Winter Sports Festival protocol then
<<, <, <, <, < - Without a single fall or step-out
Oh dear. It does make me wonder whether international judges are also looking at protocols in local competitions. They seemed ready to ding her for the smallest possible unders...
My only hope is that Soshi Tanaka can help her fix these unders. She is very, very good otherwise and it's so heartbreaking to see great skates from her not getting her anywhere simply because of quarter of rotations
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That's all we need at this point. Even without the Russians, we need to step it up if we're going to stay an elite country.
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It looks good for States. Von Felten just needs rep
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Looks like there is enough spots for everyone
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ELG winning bronze here will just further convince the usfsa that Tammy gambil is a superior coach. The amount of unconditional love that Tammy Gambil and her carrot farm receives always baffles me.
Yes, and since South Korea won't have Jia in Juniors next year, the JGP spots are more important for them than having three spots at Junior Worlds.
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Damn, Shimada! That was absolutely incredible. Just wonderful technique and skating.
Would have been enough to win the past 2 World Championships.
That must be one of the highest scores posted in a while? Maybe Kaori's 236 at 2022 Worlds?
Congratulations to her. What a talent!
Would have been enough to win the past 2 World Championships.
That must be one of the highest scores posted in a while? Maybe Kaori's 236 at 2022 Worlds?
Congratulations to her. What a talent!
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Fell asleep during the last flight - worked too hard I guess. Wow Mao! Happy for Jia - she is of such quality, sad for Kaoruko, pleased for Elyce and Ami. The rest of the girls are very good technicians, but none have gained my heart yet with their stream of continuous movement and as Mr Button used to say - music by the yard.
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Favouritism already tarnishes the sport and its reputation. She's am amazing talent but she is at the same time only one among hundreds of juniors, and the new rules were made to protect them.
Well congrats to ELG; who knew? (well the skating gods but...) Re SJVP, she should keep the 3A2T in the SP. Glad she decided to do that instead of the unreliable 3A3T. In the FS, again 3A2T and even keep the quad BUT no second 3A. Concentrate on full rotations and create an actual program. Be a little less frenetic. This should hold her in good stead. Mia Kalin was an ultra but then grew a little taller, got a new coaching team on is on track to being a good senior level skater.
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Von Felten? More info if you have it
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It's apparently out of "concern" that Junior women would be atttempting evil 3A's and quads and risk harm for their frail bodies, or some such BS. So, in other words, what they say and what they do (award three straight years a junior child who lands 3A's and quads) are not quite the same.
I've been rooting for you for years, let's hope next year in your final junior season that you win everything (again) and keep injury away. I was sooooo behind Rika, and then she got injured. Stay healthy for just one more junior season, then you can compete where you belong when you are 18.
Reminder that it is not the normal trajectory of a healthy sport for women to peak at 15-17 and then retire. That actually is the sign of a toxic endeavor. Imagine us breaking down ballerinas at that age--there would be outrage. Missing an Olympics at 16 or even 17 should be completely fine as women are stronger in their 20s. Simone Biles went to her first Olympics at 19. After all of the young champions in figure skating, I'm completely in favor of moving the sport in the direction of grown women competing at the Olympics. Mao will be fine. Her skating should be even more mature and impactful in 2030.
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I would say those calls were deserved , her jumps were under, but I'm surprised how inconsistent the calling was. The top 3 all had > or Q's that were not called. Several other skaters with noticeably small jumps also got favorable calling while the technical panel was very harsh on others. It wasn't linked to nationality as different skaters from the same country got noticeably different treatment.. I'm going to assume it was an angle issue or maybe the technical panel just didn't review the jumps because they looked fine in real-time. Once again, I think the technical panel needs better equipment and access to more camera angles..My god, I just checked the protocols and I swear Kaoruko got the most amount of rotation calls I've ever seen in my years of watching skating
q < q q q q <
I mean, seriously. Yes some of the unders are obvious, but that many really? They even q-ed both her 2Ts.....
Like compared to other skaters, feels like many of them got benefit of the doubt, but not Kaoruko
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That's my main issue here, if the TP is going to examine Kaoruko's jumps with a microscope then they better do the same for all the skaters including the favorites. Some of Kaoruko's jumps looked fine in real-time to me, and the TP still reviewed them. Mao's lutz and 4T looked under in real-time and yet no calls at all.
I have a bad feeling that Kaoruko has already gotten a reputation as an underrotator so TP was ready to maul her while other skaters got benefit of the doubt
Being cynical, if angle issue really played a part, then Kaoruko should study the angles of these uncalled jumps and use them herself
I guess another way she can get around this is to change her layout and do the 3-2A-2A method with no 3-3. But even then I'm sure the TP will still go after her 2A sequences and her solo jumps..... I really really hope she can improve her reputation, this is literally just her first international junior season
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Yes. If it's truly sustainable technique then she's not going to lose it when she hits seniors, so why worry?
Midori Ito was at least 18 when she learned the 3A and in her 20s when she landed it at the Olympics. Setting the senior age limit higher doesn't prevent young girls from jumping quads/3A, but it does incentivise them to keep those jumps into adulthood. By now, there are enough examples of adult women with 3As to show that it's possible. There are also many examples of former teens who show that jumps dependent on approaches like overtraining, starvation or poor technique are not mutually compatible with an adult skating career.
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