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Did Patrick Chan drop the F*** bomb?

iloveaxel said:
Here's Patrick Chan's long program at 2007 Jr. Worlds,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks1rAWOANzo

When the scores came up, he was obviously quite disappointed. I swear he uttered F*** word in the K&C, only once but TWICE.

Does Patrick Chan also have a Mira-Leung attitude problem?

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I remember Surya saying a French bad word in the K&C or Valentina Marchei saying the s**t word in Italian after her fall at the end of her SP. Idora Hegel last year at Euros said a bad word (the f word) in Croatian in the K&C. Milochka, do you remember that?
Massimo Scali same thing last year at Olympics.

And this are just skaters, whose languages I understand. ;) :laugh:
 
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I'm missing something here (can't watch the vid cos I'm at work), so my comment may be off the mark, but what is the link between swearing and an attitude problem? Yeah, it's not a nice word, but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and put it down to a rather crude expression of disappointment, unless he said something along the lines of "f*** the judges."

Gio has pointed out other examples of skaters who have sworn audibly/visibly. To add to the list, Sergei Grinkov said what a translator called "a very bad word" when he saw G&G's marks at a certain competition. (This was mentioned at The G&G Corner website.)
 
iloveaxel said:
Here's Patrick Chan's long program at 2007 Jr. Worlds,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks1rAWOANzo

When the scores came up, he was obviously quite disappointed. I swear he uttered F*** word in the K&C, only once but TWICE.

Does Patrick Chan also have a Mira-Leung attitude problem?

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No way! Can't compare Patrick to Mira in any way. Patrick is a great guy with a fabulous attititude and absolutely wonderful parents. He is courteous on the ice no matter what level skater you are and is quiet and fun-loving off the ice who is always pleasant with everyone. His parents are just the nicest people you can meet......

But we can't forget that Patrick is also a regular 16-year old teenage Canadian boy, so if he did utter the f word under his breath ( I can't tell from the youtube either) it is safe to assume that the word was to describe Patrick's opinion of his performance (much like the word crap, gosh, golly, nuts, rats, geez, oh my goodness---you get the picture).

In fact, perhaps Patrick was just following in the footsteps of our famous prime Minister - you know, the one who uttered the f word in the House of Commons .......the famous fuddle duddle? Pierre Trudeau, of course!! :laugh: :clap: :rock:
 
Add Katarina Witt to the Road Company of "Cussing on Ice" -- she used the s-word (in German, of course) after falling on a jump in the SP at the 86 Worlds, at least according to Sports Illustrated.

As to Chan, I don't necessarily think this means bad attitude, either. If one goes into a competition -- or anything, for that matter -- with a certain expectation of how well one is going to do and falls short, it seems to me a pretty much natural reaction. As much as some of us seem to wish those skaters would just sit there and beam moronically no matter what happens, not everyone is wired that way. As long as he didn't beller it out at the top of his lungs or start kicking chairs and throwing things across the K & C area, I don't see what the big deal is. (Tho I will allow that one should learn to MOUTH this type of thing as opposed to actually saying it out loud; did the Nancy Kerrigan comment about Oksana at Lillehammer, and the ensuing fallout, teach these skaters NOTHING about open microphones in the K & C area??). And there's a pretty good possibility that those who saw this in non-English speaking nations had no idea what was being said, tho might have gotten a more or less pretty good idea.
 
iloveaxel said:
Here's Patrick Chan's long program at 2007 Jr. Worlds,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks1rAWOANzo

When the scores came up, he was obviously quite disappointed. I swear he uttered F*** word in the K&C, only once but TWICE.

Does Patrick Chan also have a Mira-Leung attitude problem?

:bow:
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So everyone who swears after a big disappointment has an attitude problem?:confused: Are you saying that you've never said that before, ever?
One muttered curse word after a bad skate does not a Mira Leung make. (Hehe, that rhymes!:laugh: )
 
It suddenly occurs to me that Tonya Harding, who had arguably (???) the biggest bad attitude in skating history, pretty much kept her language clean in situations like this (tho off the ice was of course a well-documented "something else again"). O The Irony!! :laugh:
 
Wow, I must have an attitude problem. I sound like a truck driver when I bump my toe, so I can't imagine what I'd say if I did bad at a big-deal competition.:rofl:
 
My lip reading is bad. I didn't catch it. Anyway it's just a quiet expletive if he actually did say anything of a cuss word. The guy has a lot of potential and that's what I look for in skating.

Joe
 
"That word" and Bullocks are the 2 most "usable / versatilely used" words I know of. Surprised you don't see it more often. Acutely surprised people like keeping curse words as curse words anyway.*shrugs*

Considering last season Amr. Football quarterback Jake Plummer flipped off the fans (home game), I would say FS is still "classy" and respectful - especially in comparison.:agree:
 
One muttered curse word after a bad skate does not a Mira Leung make. (Hehe, that rhymes!:laugh: )[/QUOTE]

:clap: :chorus: Good one!
 
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This is my test case, and the results are interesting, but not surprising. Everybody except me has become apologists for our golden boy 'Patrick Chan.

Lots of lame excuses. Of course he can curse, and everybody curses, but I suggest he'd better do it in private, not in front of TV cameras. To say he's just frustrated over his performance, not over judges is also laughable. Why did he drop that F*** bomb immediately when the scores came up, but not before? He obviously thought he should have won the whole thing.

Typical double standards regarding Mira Leung and Patrick Chan. Patrick Chan has been touted as the next 'GREATEST' male skater, he obviously buys into that claim himself.

This kid needs to learn a 3A in the very near future and make sure to always concentrate, not to fall all over the place during competitions. In the long run, he has to master a quad as well to stay competitive. Overall, I feel he's just another mini-Jeffrey Buttle in the making. At least Jeffrey Buttle is a very gracious guy, and he knows his weakness, and he has won one world medal, one Olys medal. Patrick Chan, I'm not so sure. If he still has this 'I will be the greatest one' attitude, he will never even achieve what Jeffrey Buttle has already done.
 
Sorry. If this was a board of men, they wouldn't even flinch with cuss words going back and forth.

I can only say so what and let's get on with his skating values.

Joe
 
If he did more power to him. I sure as F*** < lol wouldn't sit quietly if scores came up I knew were bull**** < lol. :laugh: Didn't Johnny mouth off some pretty nasty Russian earlier this season? I'm surprised it doesn't happen more.
 
Patrick Chan is the nicest, most well grounded, 'together' kid you could ever meet. There is definately no attitude. Remember he is a 16 year old boy (and we all know they never swear!). His family is very close and supportive. In fact, they are probably chewing him out right now because this discussion board is talking about him like this.
 
iloveaxel said:
Why did he drop that F*** bomb immediately when the scores came up, but not before? He obviously thought he should have won the whole thing.
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That is a good point, or they caught something he may have felt he covered up??? That is a much more interesting discussion topic then the way it was heading.

As far as him "swearing / cursing" I could give a ....;) but why he did pertaining to skating performance????? More interesting.:agree:
 
iloveaxel said:
This is my test case, and the results are interesting, but not surprising. Everybody except me has become apologists for our golden boy 'Patrick Chan.

Lots of lame excuses. Of course he can curse, and everybody curses, but I suggest he'd better do it in private, not in front of TV cameras. To say he's just frustrated over his performance, not over judges is also laughable. Why did he drop that F*** bomb immediately when the scores came up, but not before? He obviously thought he should have won the whole thing.

Typical double standards regarding Mira Leung and Patrick Chan. Patrick Chan has been touted as the next 'GREATEST' male skater, he obviously buys into that claim himself.

This kid needs to learn a 3A in the very near future and make sure to always concentrate, not to fall all over the place during competitions. In the long run, he has to master a quad as well to stay competitive. Overall, I feel he's just another mini-Jeffrey Buttle in the making. At least Jeffrey Buttle is a very gracious guy, and he knows his weakness, and he has won one world medal, one Olys medal. Patrick Chan, I'm not so sure. If he still has this 'I will be the greatest one' attitude, he will never even achieve what Jeffrey Buttle has already done.
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Am I to assume that you have NEVER used a four-letter word under your breath? If you are under the age of 70, I find that hard to believe, especially if you hang out in the sports world or with teenagers.

We know you are Mira's protector -- that is patently obvious by all of your postings and trashing of other posters opinions.

But obviously you do not know Patrick. He has a triple axel. I have seen it and it is beautiful. So it is not consistent yet. Give him time. He is only 16 and has grown a lot. Lesley Hawker didn't get any triples until she was 18. And look at her now!

I've never heard Patrick, his coaches or his family - say he is the next 'GREATEST' male skater. Sure he has ambition, but that doesn't mean ego....let's see where he takes his tremendous talent and work ethic.

As for a mini-Jeffrey Buttle -- you can't get a nicer guy than Jeff. Always kind to everyone. I remember talking to Jeff at Canadians (he wasn't the golden boy just yet)when he was a few years older than Patrick ...and Jeff hasn't changed much since then. Fame didn't ruin him.

My guess is that you have never been under the pressure that an elite skater faces when competing at such a prestigious event. Unless you have experienced the stresses of tv lights, soft ice, crowds, and the eyes of the world on you -- it is almost impossible for you to be empathetic.

My bet is that if you were under the same stresses and made mistakes in your program that you couldn't control -- you'd be muttering under your breath too!
 
Meh.

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

As long as he wasn't saying it (if he said it at all) about anyone.
 
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