Short Dance Cup of China

[Blades of Passion]

Well the Shib's twizzles were slower and covered a lot less ice today.

 

[Mirunna]

"* Most of B/S lead is clearly in PCS."

This is not right. B/S beat S/S on the technical mark by 4.79 points and on the presentation by 3.15

 

[cassiem]

I find all of the top teams overscored this season. Maybe it's the focus on required elements stifling creativity but something's missing. They're all a little disappointing though I admire the top teams' technical ability.

 

[Mrs. P]

Well the Shib's twizzles were slower and covered a lot less ice today.

Slower for what they usually do. B/S still shouldn't have scored above them in this element.

 

[Mrs. P]

"* Most of B/S lead is clearly in PCS."

This is not right. B/S beat S/S on the technical mark by 4.79 points and on the presentation by 3.15

Opps, you're right. will edit my post as necessary.

 

[CARA]

slower for what they usually do. B/s still shouldn't have scored above them in this element.

ITA

 

[Mirunna]

Leaving the scores aside, who should have won the SD? S/S or B/S?

 

[Mrs. P]

Leaving the scores aside, who should have won the SD? S/S or B/S?

I thought B/S program was quite sloppy, but it looks like S/S did leave some levels on the table -4 of B/S' 8-point lead was in BV alone. Shibs actually just .79 behind GOE. I think the judges also don't know how to score S/S in PCS for the SD -- scores range dfrom 6.50 to 9.5 (!!) The whole "siblings don't do Latin well" seem to prevail in those scores rather than what they actually did.

 

[CARA]

I don't know much about technical aspect of ice dance, but the S/S & B/S's scores should have been much closer. Eurosport commentators also said so, and I agree.

 

[Mirunna]

I don't know much about technical aspect of ice dance, but the S/S & B/S's scores should have been much closer. Eurosport commentators also said so, and I agree.

I agree with them too.
BTW, I noticed today Maia is growing into a stunningly beautiful young lady. Her dress was very flattering. The teams from Canton are so elegant this season

 

[Mrs. P]

I agree with them too.
BTW, I noticed today Maia is growing into a stunningly beautiful young lady. Her dress was very flattering. The teams from Canton are so elegant this season

Love Maia's dress too -- so nice compared to all the train wreaks from the other teams!

 

[LLLLutz]

Protocals:

*S/S and B/S score the same levels on the two sequences (level 3) -- AND S/S edged them out slightly on GOE

*How the heck did B/S score better on the twizzles?
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How the heck did S&S score better on the sequences? It was slow and didn't cover as much ice surface as Russians' and wasn't that sharp at all.

 

[Mrs. P]

How the heck did S&S score better on the sequences? It was slow and didn't cover as much ice surface as Russians' and wasn't that sharp at all.

Well, B/S scored better than them on the twizzles despite a mistake; so I call it even.

ETA: I did feel they were a bit tentative on the sequences--but they do have nice edging, so that probably helped.

 

[dorispulaski]

It's not the scoring of the Shibs that bothers me, it's the overscoring of B&S, particularly in the PCS. No way are they anywhere that close to V&M and D&W in PCS, in any sense. And no way should they be nearly 2 points ahead of P&B, even with P&B being ill.

V&M 36.36
D&W 36.19
B&S 33.23
P&B 31.56
C&L 31.42
W&P 30.89
S&S 30.08
Z&G 29.14


And no way are the Shibs skating skills close to Zhiganshina & Gaszi

 

[CARA]

I love Maia's new dress, too. I just wish Alex put a lot of hair gel and wear his hair sling back style. With Latin as a theme of this year, they still look glaringly young. Maia's is a marked improvement from Finlandia, and I wish Alex follows suit.

This is the senior level, so appearance matters.

 

[dorispulaski]

Clearly it doesn't matter, as that orange & black dress of Bobrova's looked like a Halloween ball castoff. Not to mention the 40 mile long glue-on lashes.

But the Shibs did look young...well, they are young.

 

[Mrs. P]

It's not the scoring of the Shibs that bothers me, it's the overscoring of B&S, particularly in the PCS. No way are they anywhere that close to V&M and D&W in PCS, in any sense. And no way should they be nearly 2 points ahead of P&B, even with P&B being ill.

V&M 36.36
D&W 36.19
B&S 33.23
P&B 31.56
C&L 31.42
W&P 30.89
Z&G 29.14
S&S 27.71

And no way are the Shibs skating skills lower than Zhiganshina & Gaszi

Eek! Indeed. I would've put B/S below W&P. I can't believe they beat the Italians---now that's a Latin dance. S/S probably on par with W&P in my view, esp in skating skills....

 

[Mirunna]

Stop comparing scores from different competition. In no way would Tatiana and Maxim beat Aliona and Robin by 6 points in the LP if they skated the same programs in the same competition.

 

[CARA]

Clearly it doesn't matter, as that orange & black dress of Bobrova's looked like a Halloween ball castoff. Not to mention the 40 mile long glue-on lashes.

But the Shibs did look young...well, they are young.

Doris, you crack me up...

 

[dorispulaski]

Well, I'm up past my bedtime with my lashes propped up on toothpicks. Generally PCS are close to set in stone over the GP season; tech not so much, because tech callers vary wildly and the skaters mess up now and again. This competition more now. BTW, I got the wrong column for the Shibs' PCS-they are marginally better than Z&G, but not much.