@formersk8ter, thank you for that elaborate and extremely well-composed viewpoint. It was really enjoyable to read. They are most welcome, the longer the better :thumbsup:. As I’ve mentioned before, sometimes I feel like the only person here rooting for Vincent. So I really appreciate any feedback, specially from a former skater, who has a different perspective from non-skating fans.
Personally, I think Vincent has as much or more fluidity and musicality than Jun-Hwa
Any compliment for Vincent is music to my ears
but I guess I need to elaborate. Musicality: Vincent exhibits
more passion and heart and soul throughout his performances but his body movements (extensions, arm & hand movements, body gestures, etc.) in relation to the music need more work. Of course, I am a fan of Daisuke and Shoma, so I have different standards
But seriously, Jun-hwan took ballet so his body dynamics are more refined and fluid. And he just naturally has a more elegant way of moving about. But it also has to do with him having more polished programs, being coached by Borser, and not having oodles of quads and jump elements to skate around
. I am not being overly critical or nitpicky about my favorite, just concerned for him since both Jun-hwan and Dima are going to be his main international rivalries (from same age group) in the next quad cycle. And I know for certain that both of them are going to earn way higher PCS than my boy. BTW, just saw a GS article on
Alexey Erokhov, who won the WJC. If he does well going into Seniors, then another competitor. Coincidence that all 3 were on the 2015 JGP Yokohama
podium, isn't it?
Vincent has my support and, fingers crossed, he will soon have the support of most US figure skating fans as well!
Well, I am glad to hear you think so. I do realize there are many international posters on this board, and the overall feeling I get is that Vincent is regarded as chopped liver around here. And NBC’s Olympic and media coverage afterwards certainly did not do him justice. But things are changing and I foresee a bright and shiny future for him.
@yyyskate, I do not mean to put down Vincent’s coaching team and I know he is lucky to be training at the best FS facility in the country, but I am just frustrated and aggravated that he is losing out from low PCS and GOE deductions, despite having the most technically difficult programs. I don’t want to go into details as my negativity may be deemed inappropriate once again and get my post deleted
:noshake:
@ice coverage, thank you also for your feedback.
IMO, it speaks well for Vincent's agent that Vincent is making six guest appearances with U.S. SOI this year.
One out of seven U.S. SOI shows for Vincent in 2017 was a good start, and six out of 22 U.S. SOI shows in 2018 is an increase.
Hmm, I guess I wasn’t looking at it from that perspective when yyystake mentioned marketing team. I saw that Vincent gave such a rousing and emotional performance at OG, placing a respectable 6[SUP]th[/SUP], that those shows reached out to him. And not that his agent/marketing team were “selling” him. He sold himself. But I see what you mean. He is getting noticed more. And after Ice Fantasia, hopefully he will get invited to Japan in the future.
I do have to agree with you that Nathan was more readily accepted as the dominant US man as soon as he showcased his quads at Seniors. While with Vincent, it's like "Oh, that was nice, he actually attempted 5 quads, good for him, but better luck next time in landing all of them and not under rotate." The comments make him sound like an afterthought. (oh, oh, here goes the griping again
hwell
Sorry for not quoting you ladies properly but my computer is acting up. Thanks again for all your constructive feedback. Good night!
everyone!
and his audience engagement also improved.:agree: Way to go Vincent!!!
all of them are so cool 
