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Yuzuru Hanyu announces divorce

Oh, and here comes a Tweet on this from GS. Weren't you instrumental to this Tweet yourself, btw? Cause it seems you have embedded it yourself in your post together with your congratulations in that thread then

Of course I did!

I also expected to see wedding photos, happy moments of a couple in love, the typical fanfare of a celebrity wedding. Not one that's shrouded in mysterious and dramatic secrecy. :drama:

@Magill you can stop your goading now. I see you doing it to others as well in other threads with your condescending attitude, manipulating words and making it appear as posters are "haters", "dumb" or whatever fits your agenda when they don't agree with you.
 
Of course I did!

I also expected to see wedding photos, happy moments of a couple in love, the typical fanfare of a celebrity wedding. Not one that's shrouded in mysterious and dramatic secrecy. :drama:

@Magill you can stop your goading now. I see you doing it to others as well in other threads with your condescending attitude, manipulating words and making it appear as posters are "haters", "dumb" or whatever fits your agenda when they don't agree with you.
Oh, no, you said you were not aware of his statement. So I just reposted a GS tweet. How is this a manipulation?
You have forgotten,, it happens.
So sorry if you feel so bad about it.
 
Oh, no, you said you were not aware of his statement. So I just reposted a GS tweet. How is this a manipulation?
You have forgotten,, it happens.
I was very well aware of the announcement. Of course, I remember posting it. But this came from the agent or his press team. I've been in the business for over 20 years. Hanyu doesn't post on social media, so anything that comes out will be whatever has been created, edited endlessly, and put out by his media team.

Did Hanyu personally and publicly state his engagement or marriage anywhere in a press conference of some sort? At a show? Anything? Ever?

Again, I was expecting more to follow. It didn't. Instead, we get another announcement of a divorce.🤷‍♀️ I mean really, it's not a big deal to ask.

Time to move on.
 
Let's calm down (though in my case not likely)

It does always rub salt in a wound when people question the truthfulness and therefore character of someone we love and admire. Yuzu doesn't use social media unless strictly necessary (even in his private youtube, there's little personal) and business and he keeps his private life private. As Arakawa did.

However, as I said, he has made it clear that he intends at this stage to move forward, and the sold-out audiences at Saga, from all that I've seen this morning, intend to make it clear that he has fans' and Japan's full support. Which is good.
 
It shouldn't be an issue for any poster to ask basic questions or state opinions without getting pounced by hard-core fans.

But I do hope that he's happy in whatever path he takes. I am also glad that he's continuing his career and sharing his wonderful talent with the world.
 
This is a very sad news indeed, and my condolences to all parties involved that it has to reach an end like this.

What troubles me from this whole situation is the future seems very hopeless for Yuzuru in terms of happiness in his personal life. Any future spouse or partner he may have or want to have in Japan has the possibility of being hounded and harassed relentlessly like this by tabloids until he divorced them, because they now know that they can do it without any repercussions. And that can be very easily used by anyone who don't want him finding happiness for whatever reasons.

Perhaps obscurity ends up to be a small price to pay for happiness.
 
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So... not lying, I also thought it's odd when I read about it. Divorce because of that? Wouldn't you move to another country or try other things first? Yes, it's awful if your privacy of your relatives and people you love is invaded all the time, but shouldn't love conquer that?
But then I realized that it was victim blaming, that I don't know the details at all or what they had to endure, that Japanese culture is different in regards to privacy and such anyway. So I kept from stating these opinions.
Yet, as I am reading through this thread, you @gsk8 yourself do not just support these opinions but now also doubt if there ever was a marriage???
I don't think that is adequate at all and it seems you just dislike Hanyu, but in your position I would really expect better from you.
 
I've been reading the social media of fans who are major gathering and information points, as well as generally. What is clear is the Japanese and worldwide fans are heartbroken for him, angry and determined to if possible show him even more support both with the shows and when and if he speaks publicly again about anything. The people of Sendai will also be devastated. Also, the Japanese fans (who have been trying to boycott the tabloids for some time) make it clear from experience of celebrity culture there that the level of harrassment would be unbearable for anyone, let alone a man who cherishes privacy and a partner who has no experience of celebrity. The Japanese know.

I doubt Yuzuru will say any more at this stage, but will now concentrate on his commitments and the skating he loves.
 
It shouldn't be an issue for any poster to ask basic questions or state opinions without getting pounced by hard-core fans.
I am far from a hard-core fan, you can probably count the times I've posted anything about Yuzuru on two hands. When I became seriously interested in skating, Yuzuru was unfortunately already on the last leg of his career (pun not intended) and seriously struggling with injuries to the point he wasn't doing more than one or two competitions a season, and barely even making it through those competitions at that. Did I still enjoy his skating? Yes, for sure, but I never had the opportunity to become attached to him like others have.

I take general offense at the opinions people are sharing, far beyond Yuzuru Hanyu or skating. Maybe I am too empathetic, or maybe some would call me gullible, but when I am told of a terrible thing happening to someone, my first instinct is not to question the validity or basically tell them they should have expected it based on how they are acting unless the person has a history of being a proven liar or there are obvious contradictions in the story. That is not in my nature, and not how I was raised.

And maybe there is some cultural disconnect here, because I am aware of a solid number of posters here being US citizens, where it has been historically normalised for media outlets to stalk and harass celebrities, and then turn around and portray their reactionary behaviour as unreasonable and question their motivations and truthfulness; where it is normal for court documents to be released to the press, where criminal records are publicly available to everyone, same as marriage, divorce, birth, and death records. That is not the case where I live, whatsoever. Here, even the full names and pictures of criminals usually aren't allowed to be released to the public, much less any private information like marriage records, so my expectations of "proof" for marriage are very different - A simple announcement is enough for me, as that's all I would get from any person in my country, celebrity or not.
 
I'm not aware of a statement from Hanyu himself. See my post above. Just wondered if there is any public official record.

Oh, and here comes a Tweet on this from GS. Weren't you instrumental to this Tweet yourself, btw? Cause it seems you have embedded it yourself in your post together with your congratulations in that thread then
You must have forgotten, it happens :)


Of course I did!

I also expected to see wedding photos, happy moments of a couple in love, the typical fanfare of a celebrity wedding. Not one that's shrouded in mysterious and dramatic secrecy. :drama:

@Magill you can stop your goading now. I see you doing it to others as well in other threads with your condescending attitude, manipulating words and making it appear as posters are "haters", "dumb" or whatever fits your agenda when they don't agree with you.

Oh, no, you said you were not aware of his statement. So I just reposted a GS tweet. How is this a manipulation?
You have forgotten,, it happens.
So sorry if you feel so bad about it.

I was very well aware of the announcement. Of course, I remember posting it. But this came from the agent or his press team. I've been in the business for over 20 years. Hanyu doesn't post on social media, so anything that comes out will be whatever has been created, edited endlessly, and put out by his media team.

Did Hanyu personally and publicly state his engagement or marriage anywhere in a press conference of some sort? At a show? Anything? Ever?

"I, Hanyu Yuzuru, am pleased to announce that I have decided to get married."

This whole thread is pretty sad.
 
Can we now stop speculating on his private life, given what it has led to?

Just think for a moment: we have heard that Shoma and Marin Honda are involved, true? Well, Marin is from a celebrity family, imagine if the tabloids decided they wanted salacious details on their sex life and started hounding, stalking, ambushing, attacking online the members of both families and their friends and acquaintances, even making stories up to get a reaction (as they did with any woman they could drag into this) and to dig up or invent vaguely plausible dirt. Not because there was anything to gain but prurient newsbait, but because they could. Wouldn't we be shocked and horrified and wish it could be closed down?

The same with Yuzu, just because we don't know the partner doesn't mean she doesn't merit the same, and Yuzu has done nothing to deserve what has happened. Let's show some empathy for a young couple in a time of heartbreak.
 
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That's why I'm not intersted in an athlete's private life unless they commit a crime or something. It's not my business what they do in private and I never understood why some people feel entitled to it. Especially if a celebrity specifically insists on keeping their private life private.
I guess people like the Kardashian who have made their personal life a business model, are different, but everyone else has a right to be left alone.
 
I think we should not forget that apart from these announcements, we know nothing about Yuzu's private life, what he and his family have been through recently, and how much of a burden he has had to face. The content and length of the report shows that the situation is extremely serious. I hope that it will not escalate any further, although knowing the Japanese tabloid magazines, it will not be easy. In the worst case, legal action could be taken.

I wish only the best for Yuzu and his family. He has given so much good and beauty to millions around the world, and he deserves to be happy in his private life.

On the other hand, I have to say that I'm very disappointing that there is speculation on this forum as to whether or not Yuzu was married at all, and thus essentially questioning his words. He has always been extremely private, but after him turning pro he set up Twitter, YouTube (and Instagram) accounts in order to be able to communicate his statements directly to the public and his fans. What difference does it make whether the tweet is written by him or assisted by a media team, which is obviously published if Yuzuru has agreed to it? And is that really enough to make some people question whether he was really married? What more proof do you need, really?

As expected, Yuzu has not said anything about his marriage other than the announcement and actually took a little break from the public eye. It is also normal in Japan not to publish any photos of the wedding, pictures of the spouse, and often even the name of the spouse is not made public either. It's a big world, and it may be normal in the US to post as many pictures as possible on social media of your private life and thus of an engagement or wedding, but this is not normal for many celebrities in Japan, especially for a private person like Yuzu. But I think this has been said and explained many times here.

It's also sad that Yuzu's words can be doubted, but at the same time the tabloid news that Yuzuru was married to a violinist could appear on this forum (and on the facebook and X of Golden Skate) in mid-September - in a separate thread. Or that the opinions of people who dislike Yuzu are being defended here while others are silenced.

I really wish the tasteless speculations and comments on this forum would end once for all but I doubt it if there is such obvious bias from certain people and whatever happens it is blamed on him or his fans.
 
Saw this news in the morning, and I thought it was the most surreal thing I had read in a while.

I promise I am not being negative here. I just could not make any sense of it, right from the news of marriage to now.

Also this re-emphasised the point people make around me over how if you do choose a partner, choose one who is comfortable with the other person's lifestyle, or things more than likely will fall apart.
 
I suppose you could argue that the press and public’s fascination with, and pursuit of, Princess Diana helped make it impossible for her marriage to Charles to continue, and accordingly was at least a significant factor in their divorce, but that’s all I can think of.

I hope there is a way for the happiness and comfort Hanyu and his partner have found in each other to continue, now that fans and press will not be fixated on their short marriage.
The Charles/Diana marriage was doomed from the start. He didn’t love her, and was having an affair with Camilla before he slipped the ring on the finger of his wife to be. The hounding of Diana by the press had nothing to do with the break-up of their marriage. Quote by Diana, “There were three people in this marriage”.
 
This is so horrible, Yuzuru Hanyu must have been so deeply wounded. In 2014 tabloids pretended that he had had a relationship with a former schoolmate, spreading slander and stalking her. In Continue With Wings, in 2018, he admitted that it had led him to suicidal thoughts. For good, protective characters, the worst possible harassment is the harassment of other people, particularly of people they love, openly because they're people they love. I know another G.O.A.T. who was harassed this way and although very good and sensitive, I believe he's not half as sensitive as Yuzuru Hanyu. I'm living with sensitive people and I know that when something feels hard for me, it feels so much harder to them. Furthermore, for a protective character, feeling that they're the cause (albeit totally innocent, but innocence isn't quite a thing in Japanese culture alas) of a loved one's distress is simply unbearable.
I feel warmed by the support of all those, even not his fans (no one can be everybody's favourite!), who posted kind words here.
I also thank those who, by the sort of comment one needs to reread to ascertain one's not hallucinating, confirm that for some fans of Yuzuru Hanyu's who are a bit unhinged, making his fandom, I feel, one of the kindest, politest big fandoms, the real toxic ones are antis. By antis, I don't mean those who dislike his style, because it's a matter of personal taste, not even those who can't see the technical and artistic superiority of his skating, because not everybody can see it, plus some may be mislead by the wrong sort of coach; I mean those who twist everything this exceptional, truthful human being does and says into something both deprecatory and inaccurate, who wish him every sort of woe, who seem to resent his very goodness (the latter being my poor attempt at an explanation). Everybody acts wrong in ways or others, I sincerely hope that these antis may consider what they're doing. I find it very useful, there as well as in other circumstances, to switch names and situations. For instance, what if my own favourite had always been very private about his personal life, published a sober announcement of marriage registration on August 4th, if tabloid had kept pretending about each and every woman they have passed at less than 5 meters or seen in the VIP seats at every show that "she's the wife", published their photos as such, stalked and harassed their neighbours, colleagues and relatives, prevented his wife from even going out of their apartment, forcing him to divorce to try protecting her on November 17th, and then, reread the messages you have posted. Do you find them sensitive when applied to your favourite? Do you find them rational? Very few people have enough self-awareness, I won't pretend I have (or that I'm unbiased), so I find this switching people/categories method quite useful to avoid or cease posting and even thinking ugly things.
 
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but this whole secret Hanyu marriage/divorce seems very sus. Something isn't adding up imo. 🤔

But anyways while I do feel bad for Hanyu, he kind of enabled these rabid crazy fans for years, and now they're out of control. Should have nipped it in the bud years ago.
 
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