2015 Worlds Ladies Free Skate March 28

[Alchamei]

Michelle Kwan & Sasha Cohen
As I said this sport is changing.

I'm sorry to say it, but every current skater is lacking compared to Michelle and Sasha. But this is not an insult. They were truly special and can be considered legendary. It very difficult to top them.

 

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I know Liza has limitations and her programs are not the most elegant thing in the world, but I'm surprise with so much criticism. She has been skating this programme the whole season, and looks like just because she couldn't do her best today, her skating becomes the ultimate horrible thing of all the times. She deserves a break.

Let's get something straight. Her program isn't bad because it's not elegant but because it's entirely devoid of any real choreography. She basically skates around in figure 8s and circles while do arm movements. Regardless of anyone's aesthetic preference the program is just empty.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Gracie should seriously consider incorporating 2A-1L-3F into her program. I've seen youtube of it in practice, and it was spectacular. Most importantly, there was absolutely no question about the edge in the flip. Maybe not having the time to set up and think/concentrate on it will be the fix.

No question?! But how would she get an edge call on it solo but not in a combo?!

Also, bad idea. Because with an "e" call on the flip, the -GOE is applied to both jumps.

 

[pororocheburashka]

Seriously Russia has the best national anthem in the world!!

Ever heard of Croatia?
The best is the Croatian National Anthem

 

[Krunchii]

Liza deserves the gold, but it wasn't the best skate I've seen from her. Satoko was stiff, jumps were still tiny, with a fall besides, I don't understand the high scores she has been getting. I much prefer Hongo, her jumps were big, I thought she deserved higher TES and should be getting more +GOE, ought to be ahead of Satoko and Gracie.

Rika doesn't have the best landing or air positions and also her flow out of her jumps is not good, her presentation is very weak, I'd take a wooden Gracie over her anyday, also Gracie and Satoko have better SS and spins, figure skating is not only jumps

 

[peg]

Ouch at Chartrand's plethora of UR calls, and "e" call.

Ouch! That's a lot of points to lose. Especially that << and e 3 flip that only got 0.54 points.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Let's get something straight. Her program isn't bad because it's not elegant but because it's entirely devoid of any real choreography. She basically skates around in figure 8's and circles while do arm movements. Regardless of anyone's aesthetic preference it's just a really empty program.

A Mishin program that's devoid of any real choreography... winning Worlds, at that. Why that's never happened before!

 

[4everchan]

i think they should reform the system even further to make sure that there's fairer GOE… the judges already get to do non-sense with the PCS..it's enough I like the mandatory -3 for a fall.. a turn in between two jumps of a combo should definitely get an automatic minus… argh..

Because it is judge number 3 on Liza's protocols. They only randomize them from skater to skater....not within one skater's scores

 

[rollerblade]

Because it is judge number 3 on Liza's protocols. They only randomize them from skater to skater....not within one skater's scores

Oh really? I thought they jumbled every line of scores to make it super duper top secret!

 

[Alchamei]

No question?! But how would she get an edge call on it solo but not in a combo?!

Also, bad idea. Because with an "e" call on the flip, the -GOE is applied to both jumps.

However, after the half Loop the skater has a much better chance to stay on inside edge, you land half loop on tne inside edge so it is much easier.

 

[Krislite]

Congrats to Liza. If there's a silver lining in her flawed FS and not-world-record SP, it's that she's got a lot of room for improvement and can set some new goals for herself next season. I admit I was rooting for her win. Granted, her programs were a bit over-scored but she's now top dog and that comes with the territory.

 

[4everchan]

and then people complain when skaters like chan get rewarded for their PCS …

A Mishin program that's devoid of any real choreography... winning Worlds, at that. Why that's never happened before!

 

[aftertherain]

Michelle Kwan & Sasha Cohen
As I said this sport is changing.

Oh gracious, I grew up to those two and are huge fans of them, but you really need to let that go. I don't think the current World medalists match up to those two either, but if you keep this up, I don't know why you're even still following the sport.

 

[Plisskin]

Let's get something straight. Her program isn't bad because it's not elegant but because it's entirely devoid of any real choreography. She basically skates around in figure 8s and circles while do arm movements. Regardless of anyone's aesthetic preference the program is just empty.

Yep, pretty much. She has nice jumps tho... No shade but this is the first WC were I will not go back and watch the winner's skate. I only liked Satoko's programs of the podium finisher's.

 

[satine]

Yes ok, but the big difference is that you don't have to do 2A in combo in other ro repeat. Just wanted to clear that out, becauae technicaly you repeat only two kinds of triples.

Yeah you're right, sorry for not being clearer in my orig post

 

[koatcue]

Did Liza seriously get the highest PCS scores? Judges bye.

And who should have got the best pcs in your opinion? And provide good reasons..

 

[Kutien]

1 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA RUS 210.36 1 1 video
2 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 193.60 3 4 video
3 Elena RADIONOVA RUS 191.47 2 6 video
4 Gracie GOLD USA 188.96 8 2 video
5 Ashley WAGNER USA 185.01 11 3 video
6 Rika HONGO JPN 184.58 5 5 video
7 Kanako MURAKAMI JPN 179.66 4 8 video
8 Polina EDMUNDS USA 177.83 7 7 video
9 Zijun LI CHN 165.22 6 11
10 Mae Berenice MEITE FRA 162.75 12 10
11 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 161.18 10 12 video
12 So Youn PARK KOR 160.75 15 9 video
13 Anna POGORILAYA RUS 160.31 9 13 video
14 Joshi HELGESSON SWE 155.35 13 14 video
15 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK 152.61 14 15 video
16 Angelina KUCHVALSKA LAT 141.54 23 16 video
17 Anne Line GJERSEM NOR 139.75 20 17 video
18 Dasa GRM SLO 137.45 22 18 video
19 Hae Jin KIM KOR 136.24 18 19 video
20 Roberta RODEGHIERO ITA 134.74 17 21 video
21 Gabrielle DALEMAN CAN 133.57 21 20 video
22 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 132.25 16 22 video
23 Nicole SCHOTT GER 127.56 19 23 video
24 Giada RUSSO ITA 120.11 24 24 video

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Also, for people who were wondering about the lack of "e" in the SP... this FS had a grand total of:

7 "e" calls
8 "!" calls

 

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A Mishin program that's devoid of any real choreography... winning Worlds, at that. Why that's never happened before!

Did he really choreograph for her this season? I was sure it was done by a more low-key Russian.

 

[lavender]

I thought I was almost the only one happy for Satako. I think she's pretty much the only refined skater on the podium with good posture, polish and great choreography. It's too bad Ashley messed up on the short and hopefully Gracie will get some moving programs next year.

However I do miss the complete skaters with great technique and artistry..oh never mind.