Evgeni Plushenko

[LRK]

When I remember correctly, Yagudin had to retire at his peak because of his hip. Plushenko obviously has an extraordinary body, so I guess there also is some jealousy on Yagudin's side, not only because of the fact that Mishin preferred Plushenko. It was such a great rivalry between those two, I think this can never stop. But I agree with you, Plushenko always acts like a true gentleman whereas Yagudin doesn't.
See it this way: Plushenko can most probably still do what he likes best and Yagudin cannot. I don't want to think about this whole Yagudin, Kovtun, Tarasova thing at all, it makes my mind whirl. If Kovtun can't keep up with Plushenko he will not be able to keep up with the likes of Hanyu, Ten, Fernandez and Chan. Voronov has the right mindset. And maybe he can show them all that he's not too old.
One of my all-time favourit ski-jumpers, Noriaki Kasai, is already 42 and still competing, he even won a competition this season. And ski-jumping is a sport where you need springiness, which declines with age.
And 32 is not so old, really! :dance: This is so thrilling!

:thumbsup:

That's something we can be assured of - there won't be a dull moment.

As for Yags - I can't be fussed about him at the moment, to be honest. He'll say and do whatever he feels like - it's not as if we could do anything abot it, in any case. (shrug). And I won't go around borrowing trouble - there will be enough to go around and more without that, I'm sure!

 

[Sandpiper]

Lots of blablabla
He is talking about his ice show experience (like learning to skate in ice shows with other people as he is a single skater and was not used to it)
that skating is more sport than art specially under COP
on Plush's return: "if he wants, the question is if he can... We will see"

Thank you for the translation. I take no issue with Yagudin's comments this time. (In fact, I don't take issues with any comments unless they're lies).

I'm slowing coming around to LRK's point of view that if Plushenko was able to skate okay with screws in his back, he should be okay skating now. My worry is, when does this end? I mean, if he skates well, he'll keep going since he realizes he can still do it. If he skates badly, he'll want to return to "make up" for the not-ideal skating. So... :hopelessness: Anyway, I can only hope Mishin is truly as smart as everyone says he is, and he'll be able to know when enough is enough. Right now, however, they both seem to be firmly on quad-lutz train.

 

[plushyfan]

Thank you for the translation. I take no issue with Yagudin's comments this time. (In fact, I don't take issues with any comments unless they're lies).

I'm slowing coming around to LRK's point of view that if Plushenko was able to skate okay with screws in his back, he should be okay skating now. My worry is, when does this end? I mean, if he skates well, he'll keep going since he realizes he can still do it. If he skates badly, he'll want to return to "make up" for the not-ideal skating. So... :hopelessness: Anyway, I can only hope Mishin is truly as smart as everyone says he is, and he'll be able to know when enough is enough. Right now, however, they both seem to be firmly on quad-lutz train.

Maybe he just wanted to say good by with a great competition. The end of his outstanding career wasn't too nice.

He knew the 4Lz in the past, he landed in it in trainings . And his 4Lz attemt in competition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yEvVzq_uyA

and his succesful 4S at training https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuRyP7R6xLg

But he was young then!

Trankov :
http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20150421/824966168.html

"Jack ( Zhenya ) - a locomotive for young athletes, because everyone wants him to win, everyone wants to knock him finally retired. Of course, it also boosts young athletes further work. I think that our current leaders, Maxim Kovtun, Sergei Voronov this is more a headache and additional motivation for more serious work. So I think there are pros that Jack wants to remain in figure skating, "- said Trankov" F-Sport ".

"If, indeed, Jack returns, in Russia, I think his peers at the moment. Men's figure skating - not the strongest species. Yes, the guys take a place in the top ten, sometimes even in the top five in the world championships, but it did not medal. Besides Max Kovtun lacks stability, see it all, all of it forward, we want to, but these are only some desires. If Jack comes back, it will spur the guys, because we all remember how Kovtun played in the championship of Russia, when the beat Plushenko, and as he rides in the absence of Eugene "- said Trankov.

Olympic champion Tatiana Volosozhar serving paired with Trankovym, stressed that Plushenko was the leader of the Russian national team at the Olympics in Sochi. "Eugene - a living legend. The way he played in the team tournament at the Olympics, team spirit ... He was the leader and leads us to win," - said Volosozhar.

Sikharulidze http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-skating/1029055501.html


Anton Sikharulidze, "The Russian men's skating without Plushenko all quite deplorable"

Olympic champion Anton Sikharulidze told about the situation with the male skater in Russia.

"At the World Cup did not have our Olympic champions and silver medalists in the pair of Sochi. Those couples who were not yet ready to it to the maximum. They showed all his strength. I would like them to pay more attention to the preparations for the World Cup.

And in the men's figure skating all very badly. I think that without a leader like Zhenya Plushenko, the team has not easy. I would like there to be more precisely men's figure skating, not his likeness. I am not happy with the performance of our guys. Now things are a bit snotty. In Catania, in the elements, in relation to the performances. I have not seen such fighters like Jack Plyushenko and Lesha Yagudin, "- said Sikharulidze.

Averbukh http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-skating/1029078483.html

Ilya Averbukh: "We have no conflict with Plushenko"


Choreographer Ilya Averbuch talked about his attitude towards the decision of the Russian figure skater Evgeni Plushenko to resume his career and admitted that there is no conflict between them.

"First there was skepticism about his decision to come back, but now ... I sincerely say that I wish him success and I will be very hurt. True, I want him to come back, proved spoke at all competitions. We do not conflict with it "- quoted Averbuch" Soviet Sport ".

 

[silverfoxes]

Obviously I am a fan of Plushy, but I really don't like the way other skaters have to be torn down in the press all the time in Russia. I can't imagine that ever happening here in the US (of course, we'd have to care about skating first of all...). It's not helpful to anyone, in my opinion. And especially the way people generalize about the men, because to me there is a world of difference between them. Anyway...not to get OT, but it's been irritating me a lot lately.

edit - I don't like it when it's done to Plushy either - but hopefully that goes without saying.

 

[plushyfan]

Obviously I am a fan of Plushy, but I really don't like the way other skaters have to be torn down in the press all the time in Russia. I can't imagine that ever happening here in the US (of course, we'd have to care about skating first of all...). It's not helpful to anyone, in my opinion. And especially the way people generalize about the men, because to me there is a world of difference between them. Anyway...not to get OT, but it's been irritating me a lot lately.

edit - I don't like it when it's done to Plushy either - but hopefully that goes without saying

Yes, I also noticed this, the Russians and the Russian journalists sometimes are brutally honest and they like to hurt, to dirty their athletes, stars, celebs. I was thinking about it, maybe because they can't tell the truth about the oligarchs, politicians etc.

 

[LRK]

Thank you for the translation. I take no issue with Yagudin's comments this time. (In fact, I don't take issues with any comments unless they're lies).

I'm slowing coming around to LRK's point of view that if Plushenko was able to skate okay with screws in his back, he should be okay skating now. My worry is, when does this end? I mean, if he skates well, he'll keep going since he realizes he can still do it. If he skates badly, he'll want to return to "make up" for the not-ideal skating. So... :hopelessness: Anyway, I can only hope Mishin is truly as smart as everyone says he is, and he'll be able to know when enough is enough. Right now, however, they both seem to be firmly on quad-lutz train.

It's like a serial drana, where you not only don't know what the end is - but when it is.

More seriously, though, I remember that Papa Mishin once said that he recognises athletic old age when he sees it, and that Plushy hadn't got there yet. (Was this just after Vancouver, perhaps?)

I may be completely wrong, of course... but I just don't have "a bad feeling" about this. And I've had plenty of those where Plushy is concerned - the angst! Starting with Vancouver itself; it was a nightmare - I didn't "know", but... yeah, I just had a "bad feeling", a very "bad feeling"... And now? I don't.

 

[plushyfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjMEWtt1e-k 5 second from Yagudin. It seems the Russian journalists wanted to provoke him, his reaction. Probably he just learned here.

"@EvgeniPlushenko: 16th of May I'm running in a charity race "Running the hearts", which organizing Natalia Vodianova @NataSupernova and Pauline Kitsenko @polinakitsenko in honor of the Children Fund "Naked Heart". Symbolically, the filming of their video clip took 3 days ago here, when I resumed my training with my coach Alexei Mishin at the Petersburg's the ice! #getoveryourself #runninghearts #runwithmeaning https://instagram.com/p/1yIphmGy2l/

https://instagram.com/p/10KflbPAsU/?taken-by=isufigureskating @Plushenkoofficial announced he will attempt to make it to PyeongChang 2018 as he is fully recovered from past injuries. Remember when he won the Dortmund 2004 World Championships?

many pics https://twitter.com/aa_plushenko/status/591180450275590145

https://twitter.com/raikaira/status/591176306882056192

https://twitter.com/constantine_pp/status/591199506437287936/photo/1

https://twitter.com/purupurukuro/status/591184605878714369/photo/1

 

[xibsuarz]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked but, do we know if he will compete at the GP? He said he wanted to go to Euros and Worlds but nothing about the GP, at least not that I read about.

 

[LRK]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked but, do we know if he will compete at the GP? He said he wanted to go to Euros and Worlds but nothing about the GP, at least not that I read about.

He has talked about it I think - though offhand I don't remember in what article or what he said exactly - but we know nothing for certain. I'm also guessing that how his training progresses will play a factor in any such decision, and also probably what shows he has planned and when - and I think that the shows will probably also play a part in just how much training he will be able to get done, and so just how ready he'll be. We don't know a lot about his future plans - in a few days they'll be doing the Snow King in Sochi, he'll participate in some shows in Japan in the summer (Fantasy on Ice, I think?), and there'll be a Kings on Ice show in Estonia in October. To my recollection, those are the things that are known for sure. So... we'll find out, I suppose. It's quite suspenseful.

 

[Meoima]

I think if he does GP he will go to CoR and maybe TEB or CoC I suppose. CoR should be a treat for Russian fans, after all I think they want to see him there the most.

 

[Sandpiper]

I think if he does GP he will go to CoR and maybe TEB or CoC I suppose. CoR should be a treat for Russian fans, after all I think they want to see him there the most.

If he must do this crazy thing (AKA return to competition), I shall continue dreaming about Skate America. Because that's the only GP I have any chance in hell of getting to.

Russian fans can see him at Nationals (and have been seeing him at Nationals every year, be it in competition or at the exhibition).

 

[anonymoose_au]

If he must do this crazy thing (AKA return to competition), I shall continue dreaming about Skate America. Because that's the only GP I have any chance in hell of getting to.

Russian fans can see him at Nationals (and have been seeing him at Nationals every year, be it in competition or at the exhibition).

Skate America would be interesting, since he's never won it!

However, this does remind me that we poor Aussie's have no chance at all of seeing top quality international skaters - I'll forever kick myself for being unaware of Plushy the two times he was down here!

Come on, Plushy, bring Snow King here, we beg of you!

I was also somewhat amused to see Plushy has returned to training a couple of days before Patrick Chan, come on PChiddy get with the program!

 

[moriel]

Skate America would be interesting, since he's never won it!

However, this does remind me that we poor Aussie's have no chance at all of seeing top quality international skaters - I'll forever kick myself for being unaware of Plushy the two times he was down here!

Come on, Plushy, bring Snow King here, we beg of you!

I was also somewhat amused to see Plushy has returned to training a couple of days before Patrick Chan, come on PChiddy get with the program!

A hug for you, I feel your pain here in Brazil =(
Although they sometimes come to Rio as tourists and I have a chance of being the translator =D

 

[karne]

Skate America would be interesting, since he's never won it!

However, this does remind me that we poor Aussie's have no chance at all of seeing top quality international skaters - I'll forever kick myself for being unaware of Plushy the two times he was down here!

Come on, Plushy, bring Snow King here, we beg of you!

I am with you! Please, Plushy, please come here!

 

[plushyfan]

"NADIE VA A GANAR TANTO COMO PLUSHENKO" http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/Javier-Fernandez-oro-olimpico-mano_0_1976625209.html

translate: http://evgeni-plushenko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=268&start=1240

"Nobody is going to win as many (competitions) as Plushenko.
...
On the other hand, he doesn't disapprove of Evgeny Plushenko's return. "Nobody is going to achieve as many things as he has achieved. It's as if we talked about Nadal, who has won everything and he keeps on going. He has had many injuries, surgeries, back problems, but he wants to keep on competing. He's a high-level skater and if he works hard he can reach the podium being 32 or 33 years old, so I have to train knowing that if he (Plushenko) returns, it can't happen to me", he said" (I'm not sure what he refers to here... maybe getting to the podium?)



"@EvgeniPlushenko: With my unchanged team Alexei Nikolaevich Mishin, David Avdish and Edvald Smirnov https://instagram.com/p/13QMaoGyyM/ "

"@EvgeniPlushenko: With my faithful genius coach. 21 years we are together! 21 years we are power! https://instagram.com/p/13TzcAmy43/ " Evgeni looks good!

Kings in youth https://instagram.com/p/12fjsEseJb/ " - Maxim Trankov and @EvgeniPlushenko, circa 2005

 

[xibsuarz]

"NADIE VA A GANAR TANTO COMO PLUSHENKO" http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/Javier-Fernandez-oro-olimpico-mano_0_1976625209.html

translate: http://evgeni-plushenko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=268&start=1240

"Nobody is going to win as many (competitions) as Plushenko.
...
On the other hand, he doesn't disapprove of Evgeny Plushenko's return. "Nobody is going to achieve as many things as he has achieved. It's as if we talked about Nadal, who has won everything and he keeps on going. He has had many injuries, surgeries, back problems, but he wants to keep on competing. He's a high-level skater and if he works hard he can reach the podium being 32 or 33 years old, so I have to train knowing that if he (Plushenko) returns, it can't happen to me", he said" (I'm not sure what he refers to here... maybe getting to the podium?)

I've read the original article and I'm not sure if there was a mistranslation in the last part, because if can also be translated as that, because Plushenko is such an extraordinary skater perfectly capable of getting on the podium at his age, Javier needs to train w/ the mentality that he can't allow himself to lose to him. Kind of like saying he does consider him a serious contender regardless of everything. But I don't know, the "that can't happen to me" sounded a bit out of context to me but it could be.

 

[plushyfan]

I've read the original article and I'm not sure if there was a mistranslation in the last part, because if can also be translated as that, because Plushenko is such an extraordinary skater perfectly capable of getting on the podium at his age, Javier needs to train w/ the mentality that he can't allow himself to lose to him. Kind of like saying he does consider him a serious contender regardless of everything. But I don't know, the "that can't happen to me" sounded a bit out of context to me but it could be.

I don't know... http://evgeni-plushenko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=268&start=1240 probably a spanish girl translated it scroll down, please

 

[xibsuarz]

I don't know... http://evgeni-plushenko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=268&start=1240 probably a spanish girl translated it scroll down, please

Oh yeah, I saw it. I'm a native Spanish speaker myself, that's why I was saying it since that particular phrase, in the vague way that he said it, can be interpreted in many different ways. As someone who has translated (or made the attempt) Javier's interviews before, I can say he sometimes doesn't answer very clearly. The girl who translated it also seemed kind of confused by the answer, I was just offering another possibility of interpretation. I didn't express myself correctly when I said it was a mistranslation, sorry. :
But back to Plushy. I'm really glad the skaters aknowledge what a great skater he is, know he is still a podium competitor, and train with him in mind :agree:

 

[anonymoose_au]

"@EvgeniPlushenko: With my unchanged team Alexei Nikolaevich Mishin, David Avdish and Edvald Smirnov https://instagram.com/p/13QMaoGyyM/ "

OMG, this photo is hilarious, look at Mishin standing on his tip toes to be anywhere near the others' height.

"@EvgeniPlushenko: With my faithful genius coach. 21 years we are together! 21 years we are power! https://instagram.com/p/13TzcAmy43/ " Evgeni looks good!

He does! And it's so amazing that he's been with the same coach all this time...I wonder how many other skaters have the same coach for their whole international career.

And nice interview from Javier, I knew I like him for a good reason! :agree:

 

[plushyfan]

"@EvgeniPlushenko: Not a day without sport! With my friend Mark played a decent game! https://instagram.com/p/15wvHumy_K/ "

"@yanarudkovskaya: Tomorrow morning we will be at 1st channel from 10:30 in program "When the whole family is home" https://instagram.com/p/15kAdMFSLp/ "
1st channel, Live Stream: http://stream.1tv.ru/live 10:35 (Moscow time) program "Пока все дома" http://www.1tv.ru/shed/26.04.2015

the spanish girl who translated Javi's words : Themythoftheair @themythoftheair · 4h 4 hours ago

This drawing I made some time ago used to be under the "themythoftheair" url: http://transparentclear.tumblr.com/post/95198258395/evgeni-plushenko-art-done-on-sai-can-i-speak http://themythoftheair.deviantart.com/ http://transparentclear.tumblr.com/tagged/my+art/page/4

many pics again https://twitter.com/raikaira/status/591180459305865216 and https://twitter.com/ss_orc/status/591767494798389248

the videomaker, MargoFanactor tweeted it again. https://twitter.com/MargoFanactors/status/591639488444690433

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKMaT6oy87c what a touched video about papa Mishin and Plushy! Lonely raindrops!