so to beat P/C who are at their peak was even more incredible.
Gabriella and Guillaume unfortunately could not skate at their peak in the short dance
so to beat P/C who are at their peak was even more incredible.
The top 2 at this competition were unlike any other seen, perhaps since 1998. Both pairs skated the best they could and performed the best FDs we may have ever witnessed. V/M are both 28/30 years of age and so to beat P/C who are at their peak was even more incredible.
Sadly, I think the Shibutanis' medals means they were never ever leaving Zoueva and Coldplay.
H/D were handed the bronze medal on a platter by the judges if going by PCS and GOE, but they totally collapsed in the FD and rightfully did not earn a medal. The judges were definitely trying to give them the medal but they just collapsed.
V/M are both 28/30 years of age and so to beat P/C who are at their peak was even more incredible.
Excuse me, what you mean by that? Are you satisfied ? You think that older skaters won with younder ones because they were better?
There were no equal chances in short program and definitely P/C wre not in their peak. But what I saw that free programs event and P/C beat V/M .
V/M won not because they are older, but because they did better in Olympics.
Because they are older and cannot be in best physical conditions in each event, that's why you see they are not doing well in GPs. But they have the ability to adjust themselves to perform their best in Olympics. They won because they didn't make a single step wrong in both SD and FD.
No one can guarantee that PC would do perfect even without wardrobe malfunction under such a pressure.
You could think that PC will be better scored without accidents (and truthfully speaking, that'll be the result manipulated by judges, and maybe should be thankful that accidents adjust that.) But that's competition, it's not everything on paper, it is made up of lots of live elements. Everyone should get over. You think that PC is in bad luck, but they clearly know that judges are on their side after seeing SD scores. So then what should VM think from the start of this season? To think about no matter what they do the judge will not select them?
And be honest, what I feel most after ice dance is that in most cases fairness is not displayed, but there will be some time, fate helps adjust that. And thanks.
V/M won not because they are older, but because they did better in Olympics.
Because they are older and cannot be in best physical conditions in each event, that's why you see they are not doing well in GPs. But they have the ability to adjust themselves to perform their best in Olympics. They won because they didn't make a single step wrong in both SD and FD.
No one can guarantee that PC would do perfect even without wardrobe malfunction under such a pressure.
You could think that PC will be better scored without accidents (and truthfully speaking, that'll be the result manipulated by judges, and maybe should be thankful that accidents adjust that.) But that's competition, it's not everything on paper, it is made up of lots of live elements. Everyone should get over. You think that PC is in bad luck, but they clearly know that judges are on their side after seeing SD scores. So then what should VM think from the start of this season? To think about no matter what they do the judge will not select them?
And be honest, what I feel most after ice dance is that in most cases fairness is not displayed, but there will be some time, fate helps adjust that. And thanks.
V/M are both 28/30 years of age. Not young and at their peak like P/C. For V/M to be past their "peak" and yet beat a team at their "peak" is very impressive, more so because their biggest rivals were the judges who did not want to give them gold at the last Olympic Games after winning in 2010. But they skated so well in the FD that the judges had no choice but to award them their deservedly high marks.
P/C's wardrobe malfunction was very unfortunate in the SD. But we do not know what would have happened or how they would be scored if they had not the wardrobe malfunction. Maybe she would have twizzled faster. Who knows. Unfortunate. But V/M skated so well in the FD for a program that they made major changes to since the GPF that the judges just could not deny them again. And being 28 and 30 years of age, beating a team like P/C who are at their prime, is extremely impressive.
V/M won not because they are older, but because they did better in Olympics.
Because they are older and cannot be in best physical conditions in each event, that's why you see they are not doing well in GPs. But they have the ability to adjust themselves to perform their best in Olympics. They won because they didn't make a single step wrong in both SD and FD.
No one can guarantee that PC would do perfect even without wardrobe malfunction under such a pressure.
You could think that PC will be better scored without accidents (and truthfully speaking, that'll be the result manipulated by judges, and maybe should be thankful that accidents adjust that.) But that's competition, it's not everything on paper, it is made up of lots of live elements. Everyone should get over. You think that PC is in bad luck, but they clearly know that judges are on their side after seeing SD scores. So then what should VM think from the start of this season? To think about no matter what they do the judge will not select them?
And be honest, what I feel most after ice dance is that in most cases fairness is not displayed, but there will be some time, fate helps adjust that. And thanks.
Gabriella and Guillaume unfortunately could not skate at their peak in the short dance
While the Canadian judge was president of Skate Canada, it is not like home judges (president or not) do not inflate their own skaters' scores. President or not, put ANY canadian ice dance judge on the panel and the result would have been the same.
The problem I have with Sharon Rogers, US ice dance judge, is that her marks for V/M have always been egregiously low like she has an axe to grind with them. Last year, in V/M's undefeated 2016-2017 season, she gave V/M worse marks than Shibs, Hubbell/Donohue, and Chock/Bates at the 4CC, an event that V/M won easily.
Meanwhile, France's judge Christine Hurth gave V/M horrible marks at the GPF and at other events placing them the lowest of all judges and giving P/C the highest marks. Had a Christine Hurth been on the FD panel, P/C would likely have higher marks. But, the pendulum also swings both ways. If French judge Christine Hurth is on the FD panel, and take out Sharon Rogers (US judge who hates V/M), then it totally evens out. In fact, V/M's marks in the FD might not even change at all![/QUOTE]
Exactly , i am glad you get it. There should be also French judge in the panel , to balance vERY underscored marks by canadinas
I bolded it not to pointin out that if she is president thats why she overscored canadians. Any canadian would do that. The point is that she shouldt be there, By what right she was there/ Thats overusing rules
4 of 9 in FD judges were also at skate canada. Amazing concidence , especially when there were any French
V/M could not skate at their peak given their old ages (28/30) in both events. This is older than when G/P won their second Olympic gold. And unlike G/P, V/M had 8 years in between their first Olympic gold and second. Lifts and spins and whatnot I cannot imagine to be easy for them. But they made the most of it and their hard work along with talent was richly awarded by the judges.