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2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Oh, ok then. Let's compare Valieva's SP score from Russian Junior Nats last year. She got 78.50. And here she got 82.10 in a senior competition. They raised her 3,6 points. So that's unreasonable then?
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That she got a higher score when downgrading the biggest and obligatory jumping element in the ladies’s SP, the one that we are endlessly told makes all the difference and the only one they let them do in SP creating a 5 points difference between 2A and 3A
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Frolova didn't have her senior debut just now. She competed at Russian senior championships last December and if I remember scored around 200 points. Also as a 14 year old she wasn't coming off a quite frankly astronomically good junior season like most of the others.
That's absolutely correct but the problem is her first impression was and reputation is strongly linked with being a jumper first and foremost. And on top of that her media PR is all about it as well. Her coaching move to Plushenko is all about it! So all the signals she sends to the federation/judges is " jumps! jumps!" If she wants the improvements she has made in her components to be recognized in her scores her team need to start empathizing it more. She could start this by really performing her programs completely and not look like she's only focused on the big jumps.
It's not fair because the judges should be recognizing improvement without being told to but that's not how it works and never has. It's very much a PR/reputation game as much as it's what you do on ice. They need to be pushed and given a reason. She's currently pigeonholed and needs to work on getting out of it as hard as she works on those quads and 3A and then the marks will go up more.
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You are comparing Sasha's scores to her international scores. Do the same for Valieva....
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Exactly.
Haha this was nice and easy for me.
I'll keep googling "time in texas" to get my bearings
Not sure if this will work for you (I think it should) find the livestream of the event on Youtube (link below) it shows in the corner live in x number of hours and then list the date/time which is 10/11 at 6:25 am in Texas for the FS 
I would think that it would update based on your location. Hope it helps! Or else keep track of Texas time 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR6ZYfjUd3k
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I LOVE Sasha. Let's wait to see what happens when she skates clean before we cry the sky is falling and the Federation has turned against her. She herself has been the recipient of generous Federation scoring and backing in the past - to the "dethroning" of previous "shiny new toys." And let's not pretend she was clean here - she had one clean jumping pass - and mistakes elsewhere. Let's just hope she skates clean tomorrow and see what happens.
They are closing out tomorrow going 10th (Trusova) and 11th (Usacheva).
But that makes a strange comparison as Valieva was a junior internationally last year.
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You make a great point about how the first impression on Sasha is hard to change even when she's actually changing it. It's hard for her to shake the fame she received two years ago for doing quads. She has to live with that and I'm sure she will adjust and become a much better all-around skater than she is right now. Sasha just needs time. She will be fine.
And some fans think of her as only a jumper that's just the way it is. Being the Quad Queen is a blessing and a curse.
Frolova scored last year 69,16 at senior stage 5 CoR. At Junior RusNats the year before she scored 65.66 (but that was with 1 deduction, I think it might have been a time violation so let's say 66.66) So she gained 2.50 points from junior to senior.
Unfortunately, Frolova is the only one we can compare domestically from last year. Sinitsyna didn't do CoR.
And the year before when Trusova, Kostornaia and Shcherbakova did their senior debuts as 14 year olds can't be compared with their results from the previous season as it was the old judging system.
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So, does comparing international scores to national scores. But, you were doing it. Why? I think the reason is because Sasha was judged as she would be internationally. So, the scores compare well. Valieva, Daria, Anna were judged with the normal Russian national competition inflation. So, international scores would not compare well.
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I kind of wish the Russian girls would take some music ideas from their fellow boys/pairs/dancers. Marilyn Manson, Polyushko-polye, Algerian jazz trumpets or some of the other head-banging/head-scratching stuff.
Why am I doing it? Because you claimed at first Sasha was being judged internationally while the others weren't. I fail to see that. Then you wanted me to compare Valieva internationally which is impossible. The only way we can compare Valieva is domestically.
There's no pleasing you, is there?
It is interesting though to see how Trusova, Shcherbakova and Kostornaia did two seasons ago when they were 14 and competing at senior RusNats for the first time. They all got a boost, but not as much as Valieva and Usacheva. Unfortunately, the 3A's really doesn't compare as their seasons before that had a different judge system.
Well, the conclusion is that we have to agree to disagree on this one.
And let's hope for a clean Trusova skate tomorrow! I really really hope she does well.
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Sasha T. and Anna F. were my favorites today.
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Is there a link to a video of all the skates today?
So far I've only managed to locate a fancam of Sasha's. Which I enjoyed very much. So far, I like the influence of Plushenko, or the choreographer. Definitely a different look for her costume-wise, which I also like. They seem to have edited out some of the typical "Eteri-girl" moves. Her skating seems a little more nuanced and dramatic, to me.
Usually I can find the videos of the Russian events, they pop right up on u tube. So I'm hoping someone here can direct me to one.
So far I've only managed to locate a fancam of Sasha's. Which I enjoyed very much. So far, I like the influence of Plushenko, or the choreographer. Definitely a different look for her costume-wise, which I also like. They seem to have edited out some of the typical "Eteri-girl" moves. Her skating seems a little more nuanced and dramatic, to me.
Usually I can find the videos of the Russian events, they pop right up on u tube. So I'm hoping someone here can direct me to one.
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Just because Sasha is improving her PCS doesn't mean that Kamila isn't still miles ahead and also improving. She's the strongest Russian PCS skater, imo. Skating skills on par with Alena, musicality close enough to Anna's. And she has the best lines, the most speed, and her transitions are difficult and also beautiful because of her lines. And for those complaining about her PCS increase, have you ever watched Russian competitions? They all get a huge bump from juniors to seniors; Alena, Anna, Alina, Evgenia, and even Sasha had it. Of course Kamila's would be much higher now; her national and international PCS as a junior were higher than all the other skaters. She's an extremely well rounded skater and is probably the best combination of all the previous Russian stars.
Daria, on the other hand, I thought was overscored. That was a flutz, she has good skating skills, but her performance and interpretation aren't there; I think she's limited in terms of her range and she isn't able to sell this program.
Sasha scored pretty much the same as she did internationally last year. But if you look at her national and international scores last season, especially in the short, they were pretty much the same IIRC, while Anna and Alena got PCS (and TES) boots at domestic competitions. PCS is the last thing to compare between Sasha and Kamila; they're on opposite ends of the spectrum. But I think even if you put Alena and Anna up with Kamila, they wouldn't be able to outscore her. The international judges agree as well, as Kamila has the WR for first season junior PCS.
Daria, on the other hand, I thought was overscored. That was a flutz, she has good skating skills, but her performance and interpretation aren't there; I think she's limited in terms of her range and she isn't able to sell this program.
Sasha scored pretty much the same as she did internationally last year. But if you look at her national and international scores last season, especially in the short, they were pretty much the same IIRC, while Anna and Alena got PCS (and TES) boots at domestic competitions. PCS is the last thing to compare between Sasha and Kamila; they're on opposite ends of the spectrum. But I think even if you put Alena and Anna up with Kamila, they wouldn't be able to outscore her. The international judges agree as well, as Kamila has the WR for first season junior PCS.
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