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Who can defeat the Russian Women in 2021-22?

My opinion is that her long program was light, bubbly, and fun so that may come across as childlike. But then, Kurt Browning did a program portraying a clown and it wasn't childlike. The difference was the maturity and experience of the skater, enabling Kurt to skate a program that
Do you mean her long program or her short program. Her long program wasn't at all light and bubbly.
 
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Speaking of it, are there currently some interesting juniors in Japan, US or elsewhere who can be worthy adversaries to the russian junior girls at JGP series or junior worlds?
 
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I wouldn't count Maiia out, and not only of the B team, if she keeps her quads consistent. At least seven ladies will be fighting for three spots at Europeans, Olympics and Worlds.

With her quads she is a contender but let's be real that she's only landed them once in competition so I want to see some consistency in landing them first
 
She was landing 4Ts during the Champions on Ice show repeatedly, so it's not like "it is unsure whether she can repeat it." Maiia can! :biggrin:

Trusova lands a ton of quads in warmups and practices that get posted on social media but come competition time over the last 2 years she has struggled to deliver. As has Zhilina.

I'm not hating on Khromykh, I'm just saying let's to see some consistency landing it when it matters before I say she's absolutely a threat.
 
Trusova lands a ton of quads in warmups and practices that get posted on social media but come competition time over the last 2 years she has struggled to deliver. As has Zhilina.

I'm not hating on Khromykh, I'm just saying let's to see some consistency landing it when it matters before I say she's absolutely a threat.
Everyone is a special case. Sasha with her "five clean quads in practice, not five clean quads during the competition" is one case, for instance Anna with her "terrible practice, victory on the battlefield" is different one. And so is Maiia. I'm not saying she will be landing quads like planting potatoes from now on, but I think she deserves the hope to be put in her.
 
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I'm not hating on Khromykh, I'm just saying let's to see some consistency landing it when it matters before I say she's absolutely a threat.
To be fair, people are already saying Alysa will deliver quads next season on the basis of one under rotated 4Lz from a practice video. Anyone who can do those jumps is going to be in the mix IMO
 
To be fair, people are already saying Alysa will deliver quads next season on the basis of one under rotated 4Lz from a practice video. Anyone who can do those jumps is going to be in the mix IMO

Alysa has a track record from the 2019-2020 season of landing the lutz plus the triple axel in competition, per my post yesterday on the surface she has the arsenal but her track record includes a habit of under- rotations, even with those jumps she did lose to Usacheva once and almost a second time. But Alysa will likely have the political backing of being the US #1, Khromykh will be in all likelihood outside of the top 3 of Russian political backing.

And frankly she's going to get hyped galore as she's 1 of the few who could challenge the Russian ladies sweeping everything again.
 
One person came to my mind.

Karen Chen could possibly defeat some russian ladies if she had a triple axel in both sp and fs.

I imagine it would not happen for Karen to having a triple axel. But, if she would have a triple axel, the rest of her skating is amazing especially her spin, spiral, skating skill and artistry are the same league as the russian ladies to me.
 
One person came to my mind.

Karen Chen could possibly defeat some russian ladies if she had a triple axel in both sp and fs.

I imagine it would not happen for Karen to having a triple axel. But, if she would have a triple axel, the rest of her skating is amazing especially her spin, spiral, skating skill and artistry are the same league as the russian ladies to me.

Would be interesting to see if she could get it and get it consistent, but I think similar to Tuktamysheva she would need to increase her BV outside of that triple axel as well, and she has an under-rotation problem.
 
One person came to my mind.

Karen Chen could possibly defeat some russian ladies if she had a triple axel in both sp and fs.

I imagine it would not happen for Karen to having a triple axel. But, if she would have a triple axel, the rest of her skating is amazing especially her spin, spiral, skating skill and artistry are the same league as the russian ladies to me.
It could be said about any skater "if she had a 3A/quad". But Karen doesn't come to my mind at all when it comes to consider who can master an ultra-c. She also has problems even with basic 3+3 combos.

On the other hand, it seems that at Skate Milwaukee 2021 two US girls tried a 4T in their free skate, one of them even two, which makes the things interesting in juniors.
 
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Speaking of it, are there currently some interesting juniors in Japan, US or elsewhere who can be worthy adversaries to the russian junior girls at JGP series or junior worlds?
In the U.S. there is Isabeau Levito, Mia Kalin, and Lindsay Thorngren
OK, he finds who searches. Isabeau Levito, US junior champion, SP from Skate Milwaukee 2021:

SP results:

This young lady surely has some potential to be at least a worthy opponent to the junior russian ladies.
Isabeau has been extremely consistent on her triples for years now. Her carriage is beautiful and she holds long edges with beautiful extension. She’s light across the ice and has innate musicality and performance ability. Her speed is sometimes less than proficient, and her jump technique is overall wonky. The speed going into the jumps and the takeoff technique is the main issue. She has been attempting 4T in summer competitions, and she hasn’t stood up on a rotated one, yet, but I can see it happening soon, wonky technique and all. Everything else is lovely, including the packaging. Isabeau was eligible to be junior internationally last season, but of course the junior season was essentially cancelled. Isabeau improved a lot within that time. She’ll be much more competitive internationally this upcoming season than she would’ve been last season.

Mia Kalin has been attempting multiple 4Ts in summer competitions this year, and she’s had success in landing them in multiple competitions. Her skating needs a lot of polish overall, but I’ve seen clips of her landing 4S and training 3A, so the potential is certainly there. This will be Mia’s first season age eligible as a junior. She’s a bit less experienced, but she’s also younger with a lot of time to improve!

Lindsay Thorngren is another name to watch for. She’s relatively consistent on her triples. She stood up on a downgraded 3A today, and while that technically means nothing, it was a solid and promising attempt. She’s a technically proficient skater in all aspects, just lacks some “wow” factor. She was 6th at Senior Nationals this year (only behind Bradie, Amber, Karen, Alysa, Mariah).
 
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Lindsay Thorngren is old enough to go senior, right? Do we know if she's going to compete internationally as a junior or a senior? If she's trying that triple axel (which was a really good attempt) she could threaten for an Olympic team spot if they have 3 spots.
 
Lindsay Thorngren is old enough to go senior, right? Do we know if she's going to compete internationally as a junior or a senior? If she's trying that triple axel (which was a really good attempt) she could threaten for an Olympic team spot if they have 3 spots.
I would assume she’s staying junior because the Junior Cup where she (and these other ladies) competed today was part of the selection process for JGP spots.
 
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