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With a huge lead from SP, one 3A and two quads in FP, I still think she has a good chance..
Who can defeat the Russian Women in 2021-22?
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I mean Trusova with all her arsenal with 3Ax SP included. -5 points difference max. Provided, Valieva did her best.
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regardless I think Eteri is the winner. no doubt.
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That's true of anyone who has a massive base value edge. She was jaw-droppingly fantastic at test skates, but we have to see if she can keep costly errors out of her programs in big events like 2021 Worlds. I think Kamila's typical form is better than the others, but Sasha obviously has a higher ceiling to her score.
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Only delta or injury can stop the Russian ladies.
But if Anna doesnt get her quads back she wont make the Olympic team and will be more vulnerable in gp events.
But first things first we don't need Delta to ruin the season so let's hope that doesn't happen and for all the athletes to stay healthy.
But if Anna doesnt get her quads back she wont make the Olympic team and will be more vulnerable in gp events.
But first things first we don't need Delta to ruin the season so let's hope that doesn't happen and for all the athletes to stay healthy.
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Russian girls at the Olympics can defeat themselves. The pressure will be immense. Aliona must now believe she can make the team. Hoping EG can get her to her level 2 years ago.
Sasha can score 260 or 216. Scary. Kamila needs to limit her mistakes to a couple and she will be the favorite. But when our programs are so difficult it's hard to skate clean and obviously that's the same with Sasha which is why the door is open for Aliona.
If Anna does not get her quads back I don't know what will happen to her chances. But if she hasn't had her quads since December what are the chances she can by Nationals? Liza has a real chance to finally make the Olympic team.
Sasha can score 260 or 216. Scary. Kamila needs to limit her mistakes to a couple and she will be the favorite. But when our programs are so difficult it's hard to skate clean and obviously that's the same with Sasha which is why the door is open for Aliona.
If Anna does not get her quads back I don't know what will happen to her chances. But if she hasn't had her quads since December what are the chances she can by Nationals? Liza has a real chance to finally make the Olympic team.
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While the Russian women have the highest scoring potential, none of them are anywhere close to 100% reliable on the quads. I hope they get stronger throughout the season and find layouts they're comfortable doing, but I wouldn't be shocked if the entire team underperforms at the Olympics trying to outdo each other in an attempt to win the OGM. I worry most about Sasha since she doesn't plan many triples in her LP that would allow her to make up points if her quads are off.
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I agree with you especially about the triples. Nailing them should be so much area easier than quads.
It's kind of scary that the girls might be trying to outdo each other and then I guess they all bomb together. I think that's a long shot especially if aliona is there. But if they do try to outdo each other and it goes haywire someone from another country could win the gold. If it happened to the Alysa I would take that.
I think sasha by nationals will be scoring upper seventies and her short program and that will set her up well for the free skate where she should only be trying 4 quags in my opinion it will make things easier for her and she'll probably nail 3 maybe maybe 4.
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Alena was very steady in 2019-20, and if she can regain that level I also think it would be impossible to knock her off the podium. Kamila I'm sort of torn on because she can score very high with just the 3A and 4T, but does she have to go for the 4S in order to fend off Sasha in case Trusova is able to pull off a 5 quad LP? The few times Kamila has tried the 4S, she's missed it and her whole program has unraveled. I don't evny Eteri's position, having to optimize everyone's layouts to beat her other skaters while also making sure the entire team is steady enough to rise to the top of the international field.
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It would be better if she won over Trusova. I didn't enjoy Trusova's free at all. She didn't deserve her PCS there. ....However. Park was overscored as hell. She skated accurately to easy (for skating) music without any emotion whatsoever as typical for Korean junior skating. I know what I am talking about because I've just watched Liza Kulikova same triples-only skates in last JGP - who got 196 for two clean programs. And then Park's skates. See for yourself:
https://youtu.be/SE7ndCaGIL4 Kulikova's free
https://youtu.be/yBO8t91ioFk Park's free
Difference is notable. In everything - SS, transitions, connection to music etc. Not in Park's favor. You can say that it's two different competitions with different judges and it's not fair to compare them - yet both are producing season's best score and world rating which are directly affecting one's career. Kulikova most likely is not going to be seen anymore by international public this season, for example. Also, I've heard that Park is going to participate in JGP as well - is it true? If so - you can't say that she is senior/reputed skater and judged by senior standarts and Kulikova is not. They both are more or less unknown juniors in judges eyes, aren't they? Was there really almost 20 points of difference between them?
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No one if they are running at full speed. I do think Anna is vulnerable but I wouldn’t count her out. However, if there’s any drag to this Olympics I am not sure they can hold out another year (except maybe Kamilla). Olympics will be Russian Nationals redux.
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I'm not aware that that's being discussed as a possibility? China still seems to be planning to hold the Olympics on time.
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This one was tough for me to comprehend. Top Russian ladies beat everyone by jumping quads and triple axels not by pcs.
They get top PCS even when their quads and triple axel's fail.
PCS help them to stay ahead when they makes mistakes.
