2021-2022 Russian Men's Figure Skating
- Thread starter anonymoose_au
- Start date
- Status
- Joined
- Mar 28, 2006
Big thanks for this! I am extremely relieved that I know all of those names already. And have a couple of more boys born after 2005 who have already tried quads (Karartynyan, Orlov, Sarnovskiy Kirill, Sobolev, Soloviev) plus 11 born in 2005. So I don't think I will have to start browsing past novice results quite yet ;-)It's still not too widespread, I think. Most super-young boys doing quads seem to be from Tutberidze (e.g. Kolesnikov, Samsonov, Lukin was there till recently). There is also Maxim Belyavsky from Davydov's camp, who I think acquired his quad as a junior but is still fairly young. Interestingly these same teams are known for girls doing quads, maybe they introduce it across the board for both genders at an early age.
I'm not sure if it is an advantage though, as boys normally get better at both jumps and PCS around 16-17 (versus girls who seem to develop both PCS and jumps early, but get worse at jumps as late teens - the respective growth trends seem to be U- and \ -shaped respectively). So a 13-y.o. boy with 1 quad has to compete against many 17-y.o.s with similar base values, who have had more time to build power and skating skills to boot, while it isn't the case with girls.
And this is a very recent development, usually the first tries in competition have been done at late teens. There are also some boys doing the same in the US and Japan (not very many, though). I don't know whether it is the influence of the girls or just a more common trend and have wondered if the Russian media has paid any attention. I guess the emphasis is so much on women that boys get to do their first trials in relative peace.
It will be interesting to see what comes out ot this - how many continue to do quads, will they develop other skills and actually be able to exploit the quads to their advantage, and so on. The numbers from Russia are staggering compared to the rest of the world so far!
And I completely agree, the boys don't necessarily gain that much from early quads because the rest of it is really not there quite yet. Watching the junior GP this fall has really made that point very clear to me as the top youngest junior girls look so much better than the somewhat older boys.
E
- Joined
- Feb 22, 2014
OMG...this is amazing! And so cute!On another note, the boys when they were younger:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXe2ec8oQH2/ It's so much harder to identify them than the girls(Spoiler: someone in the comments guessed everyone correctly)
I got Sasha S wrong too, mainly because there was a boy with some rather crazy pants that gave me a total Samarin's closet vibe.
I think that was Artem K, which makes sense considering his crazy pants for the Queen FS until recently (jeggings?! Seriously, lad 
)But OMG I squeed at Kirill though, he honestly looks exactly the same.
Cute as a button tbh.Having said that...I've also looked exactly the same for years. I'm sure I'd be easily identifiable even from a years ago video.
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2019
No, no… must resist. Last time skating skills gang did it, I only recognized Kovalev and thought Mozalev was Vetlugin.On another note, the boys when they were younger:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXe2ec8oQH2/ It's so much harder to identify them than the girls
- Joined
- Feb 19, 2015
Ira is as usual a life saver. She's the biggest supporter of our boys everOn another note, the boys when they were younger:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CXe2ec8oQH2/ It's so much harder to identify them than the girls
She knows she has to compensate for the tv acting like they dont exist
Recognized almost everyone
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2019
I loved the one they did with Ilya Yablokov. He was sooo bad at it, and he got progressively more annoyed until at the end they had to edit out most of his comments.No, no… must resist. Last time skating skills gang did it, I only recognized Kovalev and thought Mozalev was Vetlugin.
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2019
Heh, yes. Well, being competitive is why we get to see them, and part of it is hating to lose.I loved the one they did with Ilya Yablokov. He was sooo bad at it, and he got progressively more annoyed until at the end they had to edit out most of his comments.
- Joined
- Feb 10, 2018
The official list of RN participants is here:
https://fsrussia.ru/files/docs/competitons/2122/rusnat2122_participants.pdf
https://fsrussia.ru/files/docs/competitons/2122/rusnat2122_participants.pdf
- Joined
- Feb 22, 2014
Kirill will be there! Commences worrying...
Artem must be super excited though! I bet he'll print that list out and hang it on his wall
Good luck to all the lads!
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2019
It bothers me that Semenenko is out of alphabetical order, heh.The official list of RN participants is here:
https://fsrussia.ru/files/docs/competitons/2122/rusnat2122_participants.pdf
Oh, and I actually recognized Mozalev in that old competition compilation, as well as Gumennik, Semenenko and Ignatov. The rest not so much but I used the cheat sheet.
- Joined
- May 27, 2021
Only four skaters have no minimums to participate at the Europeans (Dikidzhi, Anisimov, Sarnovskiy, Rukhin)
ANYTHING can happen
ANYTHING can happen
- Joined
- Feb 10, 2018
Rukhin should have it from JGP.
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2019
You can't get tech minimums from junior competitions, afaik, otherwise they all should have them.
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2019
So hard to wait for!
- Joined
- May 27, 2021
You can get tech minimums from junior competitions but you can use it only for the JWC.
Here are the all Russian men who have senior minimums (except Savosin)
Last edited:
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2019
Oh, so Erokhov did manage technical min in FS in Warsaw?You can get tech minimums from junior competitions but you can use it only for the JWC.
Here are the all Russian men who have senior minimums
I am impressed that Mozalev posted the highest TES in the free.
- Joined
- May 27, 2021
For Europeans - Yes
For Worlds - No
- Joined
- May 27, 2021
Oh, wait. Savosin have no minimums as well (even for the EC).
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2019
Obviously he wants to make it more thrilling for us, medal at RusNats and then get Worlds minimums at Euros.
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2019
Yes, so there is still the window for him. I am glad to hear that! They would anyway send anyone they are looking at for the final 3 to Euros.Obviously he wants to make it more thrilling for us, medal at RusNats and then get Worlds minimums at Euros.
Bummer about Savosin, but he wouldn’t have had enough pull this year anyway. But something to work on for next year for him. Maybe he could replicate that brilliant short that we didn’t get to see for Nationals!
- Status
