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I don't know. I enjoy his skating far more than Chen's. Yet Chen's PCS has been through the roof compared to others. It is what it is at this point. That's what we've been taught by FS fandom.
2022 Olympics: Men's Short Program
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In theory if otherwise an element has a strong entrance and good air position the judges might view it
as a 3-5, And then if the landing is meh they'll just reduce from that down to like 0-2.
But if you ask me and many others it shouldn't happen, not appropriate.
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I think it might be because Yuzuru insisted on doing the 4Axel at the Olympics?I get the sense the Brian Orser was very happy for his students Jason and Junhwan,
and not really invested in Yuzuru anymore, probably due to Yuzuru ghosting him for a couple years
Orser probably wasn't happy that he is going for something he can't even do in practice. Who in the right mind would even consider attempting this jumps unless you already know you are not going to beat Nathan Chen so might as well go for something big, just the hell of it. He could have worked on his quad lutz instead.. he has landed them before....
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leaving the sloppy step seq which was penalized (level 2 and low goe) the rest was stellar and not really rewarded... His spins for instance got much lower levels than most and not that great GOE... having seen most of these men spin live... Keegan is in a world of his own in that department...
I believe some judges just don't like the "in your face contemporary powerful style" a bit like some made Elvis pay for his own style.
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Yup. But about a 5.7 on technical.
My 6.0 scorecard of the top 10:
Chen - 6.0/5.9
Kagiyama - 5.9/5.8
Uno - 5.8/5.9
Brown - 5.7/6.0
Cha - 5.8/5.8
Hanyu - 5.7/5.9
Aymoz - 5.7/5.8
Kvitelashvili - 5.7/5.7
Semenenko - 5.7/5.6
Messing - 5.6/5.7
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I feel the same way about Chen's PCS.I don't know. I enjoy his skating far more than Chen's. Yet Chen's PCS has been through the roof compared to others. It is what it is at this point. That's what we've been taught by FS fandom.
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Well that too, but seriously have they even seen each other in the flash in 2021?
LOL. But seriously, I feel like people get way too carried away with making conspiracy theories about their relationship... dude is on his 3rd olympics with most of his achievements under his belt earlier on in his career. They can be apart from each other for the most part at this point tbh.I get the sense the Brian Orser was very happy for his students Jason and Junhwan,
and not really invested in Yuzuru anymore, probably due to Yuzuru ghosting him for a couple years
Anyways, Orser stays winning at the olympics one way or another, for the 4th in a row.
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Jason. A masterclass in skating. Choreography for the ages, expertly executed.
I really don’t care about the scores any more, although I’m happy for the PB. I’m happier that the world got to see Sinnerman as Sinnerman should be.
I really don’t care about the scores any more, although I’m happy for the PB. I’m happier that the world got to see Sinnerman as Sinnerman should be.
People keep forgetting he was just a teenage at 18 four years ago it's just that that here in the states we made him out to be the overwhelming favorite when he wasn't. No one knew about the health of Hanyu but he was always going to be the favorite if he was on his game and he was and won his 2nd gold medal.
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Well I mean Jun was well away from Brian these past 2 years just like Yuzu, but there was the infamous quote of " 2 times Olympic Champions, what could I teach him anymore" thingy.I get the sense the Brian Orser was very happy for his students Jason and Junhwan,
and not really invested in Yuzuru anymore, probably due to Yuzuru ghosting him for a couple years
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I think if he even attempts it, it would be the first for the Olympics.
But I agree with your statement. No reason to play it safe. At this stage of his career, what's a bronze medal to Yuzu Hanyu?
you have always been a hater of him, good for you
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Yup, he still has 2 students in the final group, and a very much still alive podium contender in 8th.
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Don't forget that Nathan came back and won the fp in 2018, redeeming his Olympic experience, despite the amazing 6 quad fp not giving him a podium spot. Plus, he has a 2018 team bronze.
BTW, Nathan has always been artistic. He hears, understands and interprets the music, on top of his blazing technical talent. Some people don't like giving Nathan credit for the fact that he's always combined superb artistry with superior athleticism.
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I personally would have an issue with a skater coming back from a major injury yet trying that jump which may cause even more harm... at some point, I would understand why a mentor feeling his caring advice not being followed, one that can be very dangerous for the health of the athlete, may want to step back a bit.
I don’t believe Yuzuru Hanyu does anything just for the Hell of it but ok..........
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Great event.
So sad for the Goat Yuzu :/ He’s my all time hero and I’m supersad for him but, He has nothing to prove so it’s ok, hope he bounces back in the free. (Don’t go for 4A :/ )
Team Japan is my fav when it comes to men. Shoma and Yuma were steller. Amazing performances. I agree with Shoma’s score tho since he lost the levels in TE, not here. Reduction from the GOE applied to combo also it was not that that big problem, program was solid. He might get his 2nd medal in Olys
Yuma Yuma Yuma, just amazing, his SS and fluidity of the jumps mesmerize me a lot. He might be OSM and possible OGM in the other oly. Love him.
Solid from Nathan, tho his skating never gets my attention as much as Team Japan, but he is great.
Jason you have the best SS here, dont look at the judges ...
BUT ! PCS is a big joke sometimes. Nathan having highest PCS, more than Jason and Japanese is a bit joke, dont get me wrong, I love Nathan and he deserves what he gets but, PCS is smth different, that Sinnerman program and Shoma’s skating was worse than Nathan in terms of PCS ?? No way. I hope this PCS thing will change but anyways, it was a great event.
So sad for the Goat Yuzu :/ He’s my all time hero and I’m supersad for him but, He has nothing to prove so it’s ok, hope he bounces back in the free. (Don’t go for 4A :/ )
Team Japan is my fav when it comes to men. Shoma and Yuma were steller. Amazing performances. I agree with Shoma’s score tho since he lost the levels in TE, not here. Reduction from the GOE applied to combo also it was not that that big problem, program was solid. He might get his 2nd medal in Olys
Yuma Yuma Yuma, just amazing, his SS and fluidity of the jumps mesmerize me a lot. He might be OSM and possible OGM in the other oly. Love him.
Solid from Nathan, tho his skating never gets my attention as much as Team Japan, but he is great.
Jason you have the best SS here, dont look at the judges ...
BUT ! PCS is a big joke sometimes. Nathan having highest PCS, more than Jason and Japanese is a bit joke, dont get me wrong, I love Nathan and he deserves what he gets but, PCS is smth different, that Sinnerman program and Shoma’s skating was worse than Nathan in terms of PCS ?? No way. I hope this PCS thing will change but anyways, it was a great event.
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It's funny, because it's true.I get the sense the Brian Orser was very happy for his students Jason and Junhwan,
and not really invested in Yuzuru anymore, probably due to Yuzuru ghosting him for a couple years
Haven't followed the situation properly, but wondering where Ghislain is.
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