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OutofShapeWorthlessLoser: Gracie Gold

(Maybe Gracie's lost make-up bag contained expensive high-end brands? But did she literally not have the money to buy drugstore brands -- such as Cover Girl -- to at least tide herself over? I am not being snarky; I am trying to grasp what her reality was.)
Just a guess, perhaps skaters who aren't officially retired have to buy special cosmetics instead of random drugstore stuff, because they have to pay close attention to the ingredient lists? There have been mishaps and almost bans due to cosmetics use, so it's not unthinkable to me. But again, I'm just guessing.
 
Just a guess, perhaps skaters who aren't officially retired have to buy special cosmetics instead of random drugstore stuff, because they have to pay close attention to the ingredient lists? There have been mishaps and almost bans due to cosmetics use, so it's not unthinkable to me. But again, I'm just guessing.
Well we know she can wear Covergirl. Her signature lipstick is a specific color of Covergirl red. But I guess it's possible to be able to wear Covergirl lipstick and not, say, foundation. What a pain to have to try to keep up with.
 
Just a guess, perhaps skaters who aren't officially retired have to buy special cosmetics instead of random drugstore stuff, because they have to pay close attention to the ingredient lists? There have been mishaps and almost bans due to cosmetics use, so it's not unthinkable to me. But again, I'm just guessing.
Were they her personal cosmetics, or stage make-up which can't be bought in drugstores? Not all skaters get that elaborate, but I had to even in the pre-televised days of competitions. As a redhead with very pale skin I looked, on a big sheet of white ice, like a fading Victorian consumptive without stage makeup, which is heavier and more vibrant in colour.
 
Were they her personal cosmetics, or stage make-up which can't be bought in drugstores? Not all skaters get that elaborate, but I had to even in the pre-televised days of competitions. As a redhead with very pale skin I looked, on a big sheet of white ice, like a fading Victorian consumptive without stage makeup, which is heavier and more vibrant in colour.
They were her personal cosmetics I'm relatively sure. She specified that had Covergirl still been sponsoring her she could have gotten replacements with no problem.
 
She blames Frank? I'd have thought more credit/blame belonged to her parents ....
I read the book and I don't think she blames Frank for "creating Grace Gold." She is not very critical of Frank at all, except for the fact that he is a rather aloof person and he did not understand the problems she was having. She couldn't confide in him either because he was very close with her mother. She admits that her behavior led to Frank not wanting to coach her anymore (though she wishes he had told her personally). In the end, she thanks Frank. And Alex, too.
 
I often doubt the necessity of sports people or celebrities needing to write an autobiography, especially when they are young.
But in this case, although I haven't read it (just not really into biographies), it sounds like she really has a lot to tell.
 
I read the book and I don't think she blames Frank for "creating Grace Gold." She is not very critical of Frank at all, except for the fact that he is a rather aloof person and he did not understand the problems she was having. She couldn't confide in him either because he was very close with her mother. She admits that her behavior led to Frank not wanting to coach her anymore (though she wishes he had told her personally). In the end, she thanks Frank. And Alex, too.
You bring to mind an incident I witnessed between them at Worlds Boston 2016; I was a volunteer for the event overseeing an info table at the entrance at the Westin Copley Hotel. It was early afternoon. There was a lull in activity in the concourse. I heard a voice speaking in urgent soft tones off to the extreme right of the escalator. Gracie and Frank stood facing each other, she in full costume, he the picture of dapper elegance gold bracelet hanging from his wrist and fedora dangling from the fingers of his outstretched hand, face sympathetic but determined. Gracie was in acute distress, her gestures futile but fighting. I could not hear her words but it was a soft rant. I hated him in that moment.. they were waiting for the next bus to take them to the Garden where she was due to perform. I felt an overwhelming desire to walk over to where they were and ask if everything was OK but volunteers were strictly forbidden to speak to skaters coachs etc. The scene shook me to my core; I knew then something was not right.
 
I've started reading and am early on. I'm taking it slowly because I need to but also because I'm busy. Out of curiosity I did watch a video of Carly skating and being interviewed. She speaks about her nerves compromising her competing. Actually what I saw impressed me; I think sans nerves she could have done well - gotten smaller comp assigments for sure and maybe bigger. Liked her personality.
 
I don't think she even has a boot or blade sponsor.
Those sponsorships are more common than you may think. For example, Roman Sadovsky has mentioned several times that he gets free boots and blades. I think anything more than that is unusual.
 
Where the money went is just not addressed in her book and I doubt we will ever know.
Or ever need to, to be fair.
I often doubt the necessity of sports people or celebrities needing to write an autobiography, especially when they are young.
Given that in a lot of cases any fame they have is shortlived (look at the career length in elite sports) I can understand the urge even if most of them are ghostwritten, probably err.... creative nonfiction shall we say? and possibly fairly limited in non-niche appeal. If they are famous for 15 minutes, they're going to be written up anyway, and they probably want to make the bit more money themselves before fading into private life rather than see it go to others.

I checked amazon au, there are over 50000 sports biographies and autobiographies on offer, and there wouldn't be if there was no audience. There were a couple of hundred figure skating ones, including several kindle-only ones clearly rushed out to cash in on Gracie's, at least a couple about Valieva to cash in on the drama there and quite a lot of "who the hell was that?"
 
Or ever need to, to be fair.
I disagree actually.

Not out of gossip/nosiness reasons, but out of "how do we protect kids?" reasons.

Hollywood had a history of parents taking advantage of child stars, so now there are rules in place to protect children and the money that THEY, (not their parents or other interested adults) earn. I am pretty sure there is even a push to protect kids in reality TV.

Why should a sport be so different? I think we should be talking about this. Why shouldn't we have rules in place to ensure that at least some of the money is being preserved by the child?
 
Those sponsorships are more common than you may think. For example, Roman Sadovsky has mentioned several times that he gets free boots and blades. I think anything more than that is unusual.
Don’t they normally advertise it though? As you said Roman has mentioned it a couple of times.
 
You bring to mind an incident I witnessed between them at Worlds Boston 2016; I was a volunteer for the event overseeing an info table at the entrance at the Westin Copley Hotel. It was early afternoon. There was a lull in activity in the concourse. I heard a voice speaking in urgent soft tones off to the extreme right of the escalator. Gracie and Frank stood facing each other, she in full costume, he the picture of dapper elegance gold bracelet hanging from his wrist and fedora dangling from the fingers of his outstretched hand, face sympathetic but determined. Gracie was in acute distress, her gestures futile but fighting. I could not hear her words but it was a soft rant. I hated him in that moment.. they were waiting for the next bus to take them to the Garden where she was due to perform. I felt an overwhelming desire to walk over to where they were and ask if everything was OK but volunteers were strictly forbidden to speak to skaters coachs etc. The scene shook me to my core; I knew then something was not right.
I am not, and never will be, over jacketgate. Gracie may be but I’m not.
 
I disagree actually.

Not out of gossip/nosiness reasons, but out of "how do we protect kids?" reasons.

Hollywood had a history of parents taking advantage of child stars, so now there are rules in place to protect children and the money that THEY, (not their parents or other interested adults) earn. I am pretty sure there is even a push to protect kids in reality TV.

Why should a sport be so different? I think we should be talking about this. Why shouldn't we have rules in place to ensure that at least some of the money is being preserved by the child?
Firstly, Gracie was not, at the height of her earning power, a child. She was I believe 18 when she was named a Covergirl 'face' and 19 at Sochi which is when her star really was hit its zenith. While that is young she was still an adult and any such rules set in place would not have affected her. Certainly she earned some prizemoney etc as a junior, but as has been discussed many times, prizemoney is not that much compared to sponsorship and endorsements in this sport. (Someone who has read the book, please chime in if I have got it wrong and she did earn heaps as a minor.)

Secondly, while I totally agree that rules should always be put in place for children, said rules also have to also be written very carefully to protect their right to privacy above prurient public 'interest'. This is why good criminal laws are written to shield a minor's identity and sometimes the details of the matter from the public record.
 
I disagree actually.

Not out of gossip/nosiness reasons, but out of "how do we protect kids?" reasons.

Hollywood had a history of parents taking advantage of child stars, so now there are rules in place to protect children and the money that THEY, (not their parents or other interested adults) earn. I am pretty sure there is even a push to protect kids in reality TV.

Why should a sport be so different? I think we should be talking about this. Why shouldn't we have rules in place to ensure that at least some of the money is being preserved by the child?
This is an excellent point.
 
Firstly, Gracie was not, at the height of her earning power, a child. She was I believe 18 when she was named a Covergirl 'face' and 19 at Sochi which is when her star really was hit its zenith. While that is young she was still an adult and any such rules set in place would not have affected her. Certainly she earned some prizemoney etc as a junior, but as has been discussed many times, prizemoney is not that much compared to sponsorship and endorsements in this sport. (Someone who has read the book, please chime in if I have got it wrong and she did earn heaps as a minor.)

Secondly, while I totally agree that rules should always be put in place for children, said rules also have to also be written very carefully to protect their right to privacy above prurient public 'interest'. This is why good criminal laws are written to shield a minor's identity and sometimes the details of the matter from the public record.
No, she was not, but look at someone like Alysa Liu. She retired at 16, did she not?
 
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