2014-15 Japanese Nationals Mens SP

leolion11 · Dec 26, 2014

Newbiespectator said:
So much for expecting crazy inflation for the Nationals. Japan, good for you. Except why would both Hanyu and Machida lose levels on the step sequences. They looked great to me...?

I don't get it too. Did the technical panel just decide to go strict on Hanyu and Machida while leaving all the level 4s for Shoma? :think:

shiroKJ · Dec 26, 2014

I was wondering why both their TES were so low considering...Looks like the tech panel was being a grinch :biggrin:

Well, thats not a bad thing

Meoima · Dec 26, 2014

shiroKJ said:
I was wondering why both their TES were so low considering...Looks like the tech panel was being a grinch Well, thats not a bad thing

The Japan tech panel to the top guys is like: "Hey you want Christmas gifts? No, work harder."

Eloyse · Dec 26, 2014

I'm guessing, maybe they are subconsciously judging Shoma in accordance with junior standard, whereas as senior men H and M are judged stricter (ok I don't believe myself...

leolion11 · Dec 26, 2014

EloiseDawn said:
I'm guessing, maybe they are subconsciously judging Shoma in accordance with junior standard, whereas as senior men H and M are judged stricter (ok I don't believe myself...

Idk because I'm not a technical expert, but are Shoma's spins really better than Yuzuru's? :think:

Violet Bliss · Dec 26, 2014

Too bad about the jumps but Kozuka was the most beautiful to watch.

shiroKJ · Dec 26, 2014

Well there's really no way to know what happened other than the fact that both Machida and Hanyu were held down on TES and Shoma was propped up on lvls in comparison. :think: We'll see what happens in the FS.

juuryokunashi · Dec 26, 2014

dorispulaski said:
Does anyone have the full Starting order for tomorrow? If so, I'll put up the FS thread?

Official Starting Order for Men's FS tomorrow taken from the JSF results website, if you still need it.

1 HATTORI Eiki
2 NAKAMURA Satoshi
3 NOZOE Kosuke
4 SASAHARA Keiichiro
5 YUASA Ryoichi
6 TOMONO Kazuki
7 KIMURA Masato
8 YOSHINO Kohei
9 ONUMA Yuta
10 SUZUKI Jun
11 TSUBOI Yoji
12 ISOZAKI Daisuke
13 NAKAMURA Shu
14 TANAKA Keiji
15 MIYATA Daichi
16 SATOU Hiroaki
17 HINO Ryuju
18 YAMAMOTO Sota
19 UNO Shouma
20 MURA Takahito
21 HANYUU Yuzuru
22 KOZUKA Takahiko
23 MACHIDA Tatsuki
24 MURAKAMI Daisuke

StSq4 · Dec 26, 2014

Thanks juuryokunashi!

CanadianSkaterGuy · Dec 26, 2014

alebi said:
well... Kovtun did two quads while Yuzu only one and a 3+2 combo.... *trying to be honest*

Hah, how dare you try to be a voice of reason! :drama:

Hanyu doing 1 quad, and doubling a triple clearly deserves more than Kovtun landing 2 quads including a 4-3! :sarcasm:

juuryokunashi · Dec 26, 2014

SkateFiguring said:
Too bad about the jumps but Kozuka was the most beautiful to watch.

I agree 100%.

Meoima · Dec 26, 2014

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
Hah, how dare you try to be a voice of reason!
Hanyu doing 1 quad, and doubling a triple clearly deserves more than Kovtun landing 2 quads including a 4-3! :sarcasm:

They are talking about PCS dear CSG. Kovtun doing 10 quads doesn't justify him a 45 PCS in everyone's eyes. :laugh:

But anyways it's just national.

Poice · Dec 26, 2014

Is there chance to see full protocols? (not only GOE on jumps but also PCS?)

Alchamei · Dec 26, 2014

Oh my! Just came to check the results and wow! Yuzu GOE on jumps... But he is still not able to land the combo... Tatsuki was also great... Shoma is third! :cheer2:

By the way, even thought he might finish on the podium, can he skate at Worlds? I thought there is a rule that says you cannot skate both as a junior and senior in the same season.

StSq4 · Dec 26, 2014

Poice said:
Is there chance to see full protocols? (not only GOE on jumps but also PCS?)

here http://www.jsfresults.com/National/2014-2015/fs_j/national/data0103.htm

Silvia451 · Dec 26, 2014

I look at Machida's SS and IN marks and I can say I really don't understand figure skating at all :laugh:

Poice · Dec 26, 2014

StSq4 said:
here http://www.jsfresults.com/National/2014-2015/fs_j/national/data0103.htm

Thank you!

StSq4 · Dec 26, 2014

Alchamei said:
By the way, even thought he might finish on the podium, can he skate at Worlds? I thought there is a rule that says you cannot skate both as a junior and senior in the same season.

Last season Nguyen skated both, didn't he?

Winnie_20 · Dec 26, 2014

I cried watching Machida's SP. I'm such a sucker for his skating, and combined with that music...

I feel terrible for admitting this, but I really wouldn't mind if he were to win tomorrow.

ntl · Dec 26, 2014

shiroKJ said:
Well there's really no way to know what happened other than the fact that both Machida and Hanyu were held down on TES and Shoma was propped up on lvls in comparison. :think: We'll see what happens in the FS.

Um, I have to disagree. Shoma's been very consistent at getting Level 4s this season; check out his JGPF protocols. Also, levels are about specific requirements of the no. of revs/steps/turn, so if you miss one, you miss a level even if the spin/step is of high quality otherwise.

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