2015 Cup of China Mens Free Skate

Crossover · Nov 4, 2015

I can't wait to see how Boyang would do with the monstrous tech values. I have expected this event more than any GP's men's event, even the men's event at Skate Canada, which was somewhat predictable given the 13/14 season. His presentation in the SP at the national was much improved. Therefore, I think he has proved that he is not a mere jumping bean at all and could become something else.

However, the first season as a senior would be tough for any debutante, so there could be unexpected outcome though.

Bumdid · Nov 4, 2015

alia jackson said:
Is this Boyang SP and LP layout? :shocked:

He'll probably land the quads but ran out of steam 3/4 of the way through his program...

Li'Kitsu · Nov 4, 2015

Big fat :eekn: at Boyang's layout! Land those jumps kid and get yourself some monstrous points!! :cheer:

(And stay healthy and injury-free while doing so, please)

Ilvskating · Nov 4, 2015

Wow, that was quite a scary layout! The venue for the test skating has a much higher altitude than Bejing, maybe 1500m higher. If he handled it like that in Xinjiang he should be able to do much better inBeijing. Man's skating is getting so exciting! So is pairs. Can't wait to watch this competition!
Go everyone!

Meoima · Nov 4, 2015

I am now providing popcorn for this event :popcorn:

For free! :hap93: https://media.giphy.com/media/PlJhXkLKwaPmM/giphy.gif

:gclap::gclap::gclap:

Eloyse · Nov 4, 2015

So according to tokyosengen, Boyang successfully landed 4lz, 4s and 4t2t in his fp runthrough. What about the other 4t? :think:I hope he decides to have only three quads in the fp instead of four, because he'll have more energy left toward the end of the program and then the presentation mark should be decent. Go Boyang!!!!! :cheer2:

silverfoxes · Nov 4, 2015

Eloyse said:
So according to tokyosengen, Boyang successfully landed 4lz, 4s and 4t2t in his fp runthrough. What about the other 4t? :think:I hope he decides to have only three quads in the fp instead of four, because he'll have more energy left toward the end of the program and then the presentation mark should be decent. Go Boyang!!!!!

"Only 3 quads"...lol.

Tatjana Flade ‏@Tatjana21 24m24 minutes ago
Boyang Jin (CHN) plans four quads in LP at #GPBeijing. I saw 4Lz, 4S and one 4T today in practice. Nobody did yet 4 quads in one FS.

I have a lot of questions about this kid; he's intriguing for sure...but I hope we also hear something about the other men there.

Skater Boy · Nov 5, 2015

I am not sure I am so excited about Boyang's layout. Just like pairs - skating may be moving too fast and not necessarily in a good way. The focus becomes jumps and even the greats like Hanyu and Chan need to generally prep for difficult jumps. Exciting perhaps; good I am not so sure. I guess now in skating the odds of another Scotty Hamilton type win is slim. You have to skate with difficulty and artistry. You don't have school figures to hold you up or mediocre in difficulty jumps. Look Chan is already not that competitive without another 3A and quad.

Interspectator · Nov 5, 2015

Skater Boy said:
I am not sure I am so excited about Boyang's layout. Just like pairs - skating may be moving too fast and not necessarily in a good way. The focus becomes jumps and even the greats like Hanyu and Chan need to generally prep for difficult jumps. Exciting perhaps; good I am not so sure. I guess now in skating the odds of another Scotty Hamilton type win is slim. You have to skate with difficulty and artistry. You don't have school figures to hold you up or mediocre in difficulty jumps. Look Chan is already not that competitive without another 3A and quad.

We don't know yet what his scores will be for his programs, what the international judges will give him. But it's not necessarily a trend. Boyang is an extreme outlier. All the jumps are amazing and everything else is yet to be developed.
Let's wait and see.

qwertyskates · Nov 5, 2015

Ack...is 6 quads a record?

s_parks · Nov 5, 2015

Bumdid said:
He'll probably land the quads but ran out of steam 3/4 of the way through his program...

Who knows. He landed all his quads in the lp(only a stepout on 4lz) at the Chinese grand prix, where the altitude was from 1650-2000 m, so...

qwertyskates · Nov 5, 2015

China ought to send him to Orser asap or he will bomb in the PCS. Highest TES, lowest PCS.

HanDomi · Nov 5, 2015

I am quite sure he will land. There is nothing going on between jumps, and he is going from quad to quad, but it will be at least exciting to see quads :biggrin:

Meoima · Nov 5, 2015

qwertyskates said:
China ought to send him to Orser asap or he will bomb in the PCS. Highest TES, lowest PCS.

Well even Orser couldn't do anything, for sure. Btw do you need some popcorn? :popcorn:

qwertyskates · Nov 5, 2015

Meoima said:
Well even Orser couldn't do anything, for sure. Btw do you need some popcorn?

I swear Jin can dance! :dance:

Meoima · Nov 5, 2015

qwertyskates said:
I swear Jin can dance! :dance:

Well dance in which way, in my view the dance doesn't look aesthetically pleasing. :dance2: and sometimes people take Orser for granted. He is not the best polishing coach, that title should go for Tat. Orser and co are good at gaming CoP, but his students don't have the best posture or even package in the field. :popcorn:

qwertyskates · Nov 5, 2015

I saw a Michael Jackson/Plushenko parody from Jin once, he can dance for sure. :dance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPO3ZjyOV_E

He was so tiny, and he was enjoying it!

This is fun, I found this too, even without the quads, it's so much better than the Dragon Racing FP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUOpvYwf-c0

Yuzuru's posture has improved so much under Orser, Javier was a fun skater before his transformation into a sexy rock goth, and Yuna was really polished into a star for the Olympics. He is good at taking raw, pure unique skating talent and launching them as sophisticated stars for the world's stage.

A kid with 6 quads should not be left on his own!

Meoima · Nov 5, 2015

^you think his coach let him jump 6 coach alone? If his coach doesn't allow, he will not do. Of course the has some coaches and they're trying to help him get to the top as fast as possible.
And seriously that video...who let a kid do those moves. :scratch:

qwertyskates · Nov 5, 2015

Meoima said:
^you think his coach let him jump 6 coach alone? If his coach doesn't allow, he will not do. Of course the has some coaches and they're trying to help him get to the top as fast as possible.
And seriously that video...who let a kid do those moves. :scratch:

Yes, they would love to get a top skater, but can they train him to be an all-rounder, that is the question.

Jin can definitely feel the music, you can see it in his early videos. He's surely awkward now, so his coaches are not training him right.

He's a natural jumper like Yuzuru, hope he finds the coaching he needs to develop his considerable talent, would be a waste if he languishes forever in PCS Neverland.

Jin was imitating Plushenko's MJ medley, those moves were Plushy's, and I think MJ himself started it in one of his videos. :dance2:

Bumdid · Nov 5, 2015

s_parks said:
Who knows. He landed all his quads in the lp(only a stepout on 4lz) at the Chinese grand prix, where the altitude was from 1650-2000 m, so...

I'm actually a fan of him so hopefully this is true :cheer:

. Just basing it on his Junior Worlds performance where he kinda lost the performance at the end. Hopefully, he had worked on his stamina over the summer since his jumps are so solid.

qwertyskates said:
I saw a Michael Jackson/Plushenko parody from Jin once, he can dance for sure. :dance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPO3ZjyOV_E

Some turn that as an SP to him quick because it looked way better than any of his program this year.

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