right now I see Nathan vs Yuruzu, like Alina vs Evgenia. If Alina pcs can jump 15+ points in one season doing the same program but being rewarded with consistency the so can Nathan..
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right now I see Nathan vs Yuruzu, like Alina vs Evgenia. If Alina pcs can jump 15+ points in one season doing the same program but being rewarded with consistency the so can Nathan..
Now that would be really, really sad for the sport. Unless he earns it, of course.
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Caught up on Dick Button's Tweets he was harsh on Brendan, I submit he check YouTube himself for Brendan's Singin' In The Rain if he thinks Brendan's boring 
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right now I see Nathan vs Yuruzu, like Alina vs Evgenia. If Alina pcs can jump 15+ points in one season doing the same program but being rewarded with consistency the so can Nathan..
Nobody who has bombed as many times as Nathan can be called consistent. I won't hold my breath for that.
I’m not getting into the math but just want to say - someone mentioned Sasha Cohen bombing in Torino. Maybe, but I still remember her gypsy-like program. And same with Mao at Olympics where she got silver with a huge gap behind Yuna. (Too big if you ask me). That’s because these programs were MUCH more than a series of jumps.
I’d prefer this sport continue to offer us such moments.
Same with pairs. This time around there was lots of “this is the first quad” thus or that, but I already forgot top winners. Programs with Dmitiriev and Kazakova, or Grinkov/Gordeeva, or Anton S/B still stand out in my mind.
Same with dance, like Klimova/P’s Bach free program.
I’d prefer this sport continue to offer us such moments.
Same with pairs. This time around there was lots of “this is the first quad” thus or that, but I already forgot top winners. Programs with Dmitiriev and Kazakova, or Grinkov/Gordeeva, or Anton S/B still stand out in my mind.
Same with dance, like Klimova/P’s Bach free program.
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I really don't understand all the Nathan Chen haters on this thread. He's an 18 year old kid who showed amazing courage and fortitude last night to move from 17th to 5th and win the free skate. Or is it just because he's American that some want to bash him?
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Huh? He has been to Worlds, last season. I don't understand all these pointless woulda, coulda, shoulda discussions. Sport is about risk, you want to push the limits, then you will have more pressure and more potential for injury. He chose this approach and these are the consequences. That goes for everyone. You can play it safe, or you can go for broke (literally). Neither strategy guarantees you anything. If everyone was able to deliver all their planned program content every time then there would be no point in having the competition. That's not reality.
No it's the overall attitude to hype him as the next full sweeper of the field to the point to disregard the rest of said field at every big competition even though he hasn't proved yet that he can actually deliver under pressure. Whether people liked them and their skating or not, both shoma and boyang (the others new young jumping quad beans) got at least two podiums to show they can get there. And i love kolyada and think he's the one who has the most beautiful 4lz but i also don't pretend he will sweep and win everything when he's so inconsistent and i don't see other people pretending he can easily take the golds "if he had been clean the others would have stand no chance!"
Nathan has tons of potential but if he doesn't have the mind to back it up it'll stay at the level of "potential". Which i'm sure he'll get but right now he doesn't. Nothing to be ashamed, shoma had a meltdown at his first world too.
But it's a bit tiring and irritating, especially after months of hyping, to see people ready to say/imply he should have won the OGM just because of his potential plannings.
Instead of you know talking about what actually happened and was done on the ice, by Nathan and the rest of the competitors.
I don't think Nathan is finished or whatever but I also think what he does at the next worlds will be crucial to see if he's maturing or if he's going into a slump.
As I said before, not even the Patrick Chan ubers in 2014 bent over backwards like this to make up hypotheticals. And Chan has a much bigger claim to a coulda/woulda/shoulda OGM.
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I've decided to be optimistic. I'm hoping Nathan rises to the occasion at the post-Olympics Worlds like Kimmie Meissner did.
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Okay but if Yuzuru skated his 2017 worlds FS and his WR short, he still would have won... If you apply what ifs you have to apply them to everyone.
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No, you're talking about base value, not TES base value. And Nathan isn't pushing TES boundaries, he's pushing BV boundaries. Yuzuru and Javi has pushed TES boundaries. It takes more than just attempting the jump; TES is how well you actually do the jump.
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Hello friends, just checking in from last night, as before the event ended, I went to the medical clinic to see a doctor about the strange, sharp abdominal cramps I was experiencing. Turns out that I have UTI, and while they are definitely not fun, it’s much better than premature labour or having other pregnancy related complications! I am 29 weeks along now. Thank you for all your kind words and messages of concern. 
I finally caught up on this whole entire 227+ page thread. The one thing that cracks me up the most on a personal level is how similar Shoma Uno is to my Yuzudaughter: she’s the exact type who would look dazed when her marks come up, hold her plushie backwards for photos, get confused on where to go to the podium, etc etc. Even though she’s a Yuzuber and dislikes Shoma simply for being Yuzu’s national rival, they actually have quite a lot in common.
She can also be awkward and sometimes introverted - believe it or not, I am too, at times. 
While I’m sad for my boy Boyang, I think the judges got the medalists right - and in the right order - on the podium.
I also bawled my eyes out during both Adam and Patrick’s programs. Despite their lack of technical arsenal and/or mistakes, they were both simply beautiful to watch. Three cheers for Keegan as well, he’s just so darling.
This will be quite a story to tell Newdaughter in a few years: how I’ll always remember watching the latter half of the 2018 Olympic men’s freeskate in a hospital waiting room because I was worried for her in utero, all while sucking the life outta my cellphone’s data plan without a care in the world regarding if I’ll end up with a ridiculously high invoice next month. Skating is life in the SynchroFam.
I finally caught up on this whole entire 227+ page thread. The one thing that cracks me up the most on a personal level is how similar Shoma Uno is to my Yuzudaughter: she’s the exact type who would look dazed when her marks come up, hold her plushie backwards for photos, get confused on where to go to the podium, etc etc. Even though she’s a Yuzuber and dislikes Shoma simply for being Yuzu’s national rival, they actually have quite a lot in common.
She can also be awkward and sometimes introverted - believe it or not, I am too, at times. While I’m sad for my boy Boyang, I think the judges got the medalists right - and in the right order - on the podium.
I also bawled my eyes out during both Adam and Patrick’s programs. Despite their lack of technical arsenal and/or mistakes, they were both simply beautiful to watch. Three cheers for Keegan as well, he’s just so darling.
This will be quite a story to tell Newdaughter in a few years: how I’ll always remember watching the latter half of the 2018 Olympic men’s freeskate in a hospital waiting room because I was worried for her in utero, all while sucking the life outta my cellphone’s data plan without a care in the world regarding if I’ll end up with a ridiculously high invoice next month.
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Well, he slayed everyone in the freeskate.... winning it by a considerable margin.
And he now holds the world record for highest TES score ever in a program.
So of course people will find reason to bash him.
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Well, he did beat all the top contenders this season, so it made sense he would have a chance to do it again. You've got to remember that it's been a long time since the US has had a male skater that (in his understated and cool kid exterior way) appeals to the masses. Figure skating is not popular or respected, and then along comes Nathan Chen. He's super talented, super athletic and super cool, so of course he's hyped coming into the the Olympic Games. The hype of Nathan Chen has nothing to do with disrespecting the other amazing skaters in the men's event. Given that he did win the free skate, yes, he could have at least been on the podium had he not made so many uncharacteristic mistakes in the short. He did though, and the other four guys ahead of him didn't, so they are to be applauded and congratulated. I haven't seen any Chen fans here disregard what Yuzu, Shoma and Javi accomplished.
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Hello friends, just checking in from last night, as before the event ended, I went to the medical clinic to see a doctor about the strange, sharp abdominal cramps I was experiencing. Turns out that I have UTI, and while they are definitely not fun, it’s much better than premature labour or having other pregnancy related complications! I am 29 weeks along now. Thank you for all your kind words and messages of concern.
I finally caught up on this whole entire 227+ page thread. The one thing that cracks me up the most on a personal level is how similar Shoma Uno is to my Yuzudaughter: she’s the exact type who would look dazed when her marks come up, hold her plushie backwards for photos, get confused on where to go to the podium, etc etc. Even though she’s a Yuzuber and dislikes Shoma simply for being Yuzu’s national rival, they actually have quite a lot in common.
While I’m sad for my boy Boyang, I think the judges got the medalists right - and in the right order - on the podium.
I also bawled my eyes out during both Adam and Patrick’s programs. Despite their lack of technical arsenal and/or mistakes, they were both simply beautiful to watch. Three cheers for Keegan as well, he’s just so darling.
This will be quite a story to tell Newdaughter in a few years: how I’ll always remember watching the latter half of the 2018 Olympic men’s freeskate in a hospital waiting room because I was worried for her in utero, all while sucking the life outta my cellphone’s data plan without a care in the world regarding if I’ll end up with a ridiculously high invoice next month.
I hope everything goes well for your pregnancy. --Glad you could catch up on this super long thread.
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