Why are you depressed? This has been a great SD competition. There is only three points between 3rd and 4th right? Tomorrow will be a nail biter. But if Nikita or Vicki go for too much they'll have a repeat of Minsk on their hands. Yeeesss!! Congrats to the top three.
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2018 Russian FS Championship - Ice Dance SD
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Why are you depressed? This has been a great SD competition. There is only three points between 3rd and 4th right? Tomorrow will be a nail biter. But if Nikita or Vicki go for too much they'll have a repeat of Minsk on their hands. Yeeesss!! Congrats to the top three.
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I loved stepanova / bukin and zagorski / guerriero. So much energy and fun. Great job!
protocols http://fsrussia.ru/results/1718/rusnat1718_ENG/IceDance_SD_Scores.pdf
Z/G are the ONLY team with level4 Rumba. Come on guys, Olympics are coming, B/S and S/B cannot afford a level 3.
Otherwise no level 4 on steps. No one.
Z/G are the ONLY team with level4 Rumba. Come on guys, Olympics are coming, B/S and S/B cannot afford a level 3.
Otherwise no level 4 on steps. No one.
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I'm depressed because today none of my favourite skaters did their best, neither are Russian Nats, nor at Japanese Nats
What is even more depressing, these results are actually fair.
so I don't have even the mere consolation of "this stupid politicking".
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Stepanova/Bukin were on fire today, everything got quite in their way I feel:timing, elements, connection between them and with the audience... They exuded confidence and focus about their material and execution of it. Whatever to be said about her edges, their programs, music or cliche level of it-they are sticking to themselves, got material that feeds off their youthfulness and chemistry and they are hitting it with conviction.
On a side note, Svinin/Zhuk antics during their pupils Dance shown during replays made my day, happy for all four of them, love Ivan's happiness about score
On a side note, Svinin/Zhuk antics during their pupils Dance shown during replays made my day
, happy for all four of them, love Ivan's happiness about score
I'm depressed because today none of my favourite skaters did their best, neither are Russian Nats, nor at Japanese Nats
What is even more depressing, these results are actually fair.
You're right though, there is a slight "inflation" on PCS but that's expected from nationals, but nothing crazy in ice dance. I expected B/S to be ahead on points, mistakes or not and looking at the point difference (the only thing that matters), I'm surprised that it's actually quite correct.
I'm depressed because today none of my favourite skaters did their best, neither are Russian Nats, nor at Japanese Nats
What is even more depressing, these results are actually fair.
That's what I'm saying. But it's still pretty close. Tomorrow could be a better day for your faves. It would be rather shocking to not see S/K on the podium they have done well with the FD during the GP.
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Maybe the panel was more strict this time? I mean, last year B/S got all level 4s, so...
They've got to give them decent feedback this year. The Olympics is less than 50 days away....
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Well... Yes, this is what I have written, isn't it? The results are fair, thus I have no consolation in the politicking thing. Because there was no politicking. Is it clear now?
I agree. Euros are 4 weeks away, Olympics 50 days away. It's now or never for those levels, or it's a point less there, another one here, and boom, that's a lot to catch up in Ice Dance.
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Yup. But still, for the level of presentation S/B had, they are still tied with a quite messy B/S - who are lucky they are mature enough to deal with a bad SD. Three out of five elements were very wonky today.
Better now than later in the season, tho.
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It was the problem B/S had to deal with at Worlds this year. The PSt put them out of contention because of a level.
S/B tend to be very consistent this year. They have their chance now if B/S aren't the cleanest.
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Yep, I was just acknowledging your point
Well, there is an inflation, nothing compared to Italian Nats though.
Even ice dancers can have injuries with any coach. But Poje hurt his knee (not seriously, though) when he fell in the warm-up at Trophee de France. That definitely can't be blamed on their coach. As for their programs, the SD is fine (as you yourself said), but their original 'Spartacus' FD was choreographed by Lori Nichol, not Morozov. The problem was that she is inexperienced in ice dance choreography, and the FD needed too many changes which they had no time for. They did not get a new FD (neither from Morozov, nor from anyone else), but returned to an old FD instead for the same reason for which they discarded the 'Spartacus' FD - they explained that they wanted to have a program that was practically ready at that point of the season, not one in early stages of development with a long way to go (not their exact words, but that was the gist). Morozov said in an interview a long time ago that he considers W/P's 'Je Suis Malade' the best program they've ever done (the same as many ice dance fans), so it's natural that he suggested a return to it. Finally, as for costumes, I personally really like Kaitlyn's SD dress and the flowers in her hair - it's unusual and different from what other female ice dancers are wearing for the SD. And I am not alone in liking that dress etc., so it's debatable whether it's as bad as you and some others think.
Actually I love everything about their new SD dress and all. My issue is primarily with the poor management of their Olympic season. IMHO, JSM, needs a bit of rawness for lack of a better word to have more impact. W/P needed a new FD that would show them off at their best and be even a bit of a surprise, JSM just comes off as old, been there done that, to me. But hey let's discuss this further at Canadian Nationals which isn't too far away.
A few thoughts from today after rewatching the SDs;
1. Annabel Morozov has lots of energy and spunk but her basic skating needs work. On the GP circuit that dance would not have
scored more than 50 points. Karpanossov looked in pain afterwards.
2. Zhulin and his team should have given B/S a decent SD long ago. That dance is embarrasssing and they perform it as if they
know this. It must be tiresome to skate such a program so many times in what is your last Olympic season.
3. Zhulin, can be so stubborn. For the entire season Victoria has been struggling to keep up with Nikita on those break neck
speed twizzles. It was highly likely that she would have an error on them as she almost did the same thing at SA. If they were
just a bit more cautious they would have easily been in third place.
4. Forgive me for saying this but please Pavel Drozd needs a new partner. Alla is not coping well. I don't care who it is as long
as they can create a better impression than these two do, it doesn't reflect well on Russian ice dance. I don't want to hurt her
feelings or their fans, so I'm also asking is she injured or ill? Because she just isn't keeping up with him. Is there a way for
him to slow down and skate at her level? Would the level drop significantly? Just my honest impressions.
5. Tomorrow, first place is up for grabs between S/B and B/S it should be thrilling.
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Hello everyone
Although a brand new team, I like Vlada and Yuri a lot. VERY promising. Nice chemistry, too.
Yeah, I also like Vlada & Yuri
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