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dorispulaski

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Was lyrical hip hop ever done as a street dance, which is what this year's RD is supposed to be?

Anyway, this sounds like a club dance, and it will be fun to see it. No tech panel/group of judges would have the guts to withhold levels, GOE from or give a music penalty to P&C because of this.
 

Skatesocs

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Was lyrical hip hop ever done as a street dance, which is what this year's RD is supposed to be?
Lyrical hip hop is supposed to be a "commercialised" offshoot of hip hop. Basically adding more jazz technique and making it more "palatable" for certain audiences, and doing it to pop songs. So it's not really hip hop or street dance (doesn't share the same cultural origins as hip hop and much of street dance, nor the sensibility), but it's in the mainstream and has been around long enough to be considered so. I guess it'd be easier translate that to the ice than actual hip hop.
 

dorispulaski

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Yes, I believe it is inherently easier on ice than street hip hop ;) Less staccato, so more easy to demonstrate clear edges using it.

Sounds perilously close to the easy listening version of it...

But what the heck! I still want to see it.
 

boysoprano

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Lyrical hip hop is supposed to be a "commercialised" offshoot of hip hop. Basically adding more jazz technique and making it more "palatable" for certain audiences, and doing it to pop songs. So it's not really hip hop or street dance (doesn't share the same cultural origins as hip hop and much of street dance, nor the sensibility), but it's in the mainstream and has been around long enough to be considered so. I guess it'd be easier translate that to the ice than actual hip hop.
honeslty i'd lose my mind if someone did soul ii soul back to life. i characterise that as hiphop....... I don't think hiphop needs to necessaily mean rapping. I would say Justify My Love was hiphop in terms of rhythm.

To me hiphop is about rhythm derived from the sampling of Clyde Stubblefield on Funky Drummer, and some other rhythms that were multiply sampled.


here's also asmples of The jam by Graham central station- another hip hop staple.

 
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Skatesocs

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honeslty i'd lose my mind if someone did soul ii soul back to life. i characterise that as hiphop....... I don't think hiphop needs to necessaily mean rapping. I would say Justify My Love was hiphop in terms of rhythm.

To me hiphop is about rhythm derived from the sampling of Clyde Stubblefield on Funky Drummer, and some other rhythms that were multiply sampled.
Sure, but I was talking about my dislike for the dance style :laugh: Hip hop music might not necessarily mean rapping, but I sure do hope to see actual hip hop dance even if done to some random pop music and not watered down "lyrical hip hop" ;)
 

boysoprano

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Sure, but I was talking about my dislike for the dance style :laugh: Hip hop music might not necessarily mean rapping, but I sure do hope to see actual hip hop dance even if done to some random pop music and not watered down "lyrical hip hop" ;)
ok got ya...... me too! but ya gotta start with the right rhythms!
 

Skatesocs

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ok got ya...... me too! but ya gotta start with the right rhythms!
Yeah, I guess. Actually, maybe it will be more jazz-funk or commercial instead of "lyrical hip hop" listening to the tracks. Waacking to this music I guess can be done, but would have liked a nod to its disco origins. Still, vogue + waacking would have been cool, but I'll stop before I see the program :laugh:

(Kim Gingras I think was on the Canadian version of So You Think You Can Dance, but I'm not looking her dances up)
 
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boysoprano

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Yeah, I guess. Actually, maybe it will be more jazz-funk or commercial instead of "lyrical hip hop" listening to the tracks. Waacking to this music I guess can be done, but would have liked a nod to its disco origins. Still, vogue + waacking would have been cool, but I'll stop before I see the program :laugh:

(Kim Gingras I think was on the Canadian version of So You Think You Can Dance, but I'm not looking her dances up)
I am always glad of outside input.....the notion that skaters are having street dance/hip hop dances done without reference to specialists.........
 

dorispulaski

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It depends on the team & the school. Davis & White and Virtue & Moir often hired specialists for input about particular rhythms/dance styles. And so have teams training in Montreal. Whether P&C do, I do not know, but if we get an interview with them, we will ask, because it is always an interesting question.
 

Skatesocs

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It depends on the team & the school. Davis & White and Virtue & Moir often hired specialists for input about particular rhythms/dance styles. And so have teams training in Montreal. Whether P&C do, I do not know, but if we get an interview with them, we will ask, because it is always an interesting question.
"Axelle Ebony" is the waacking expert there, clearly.
 

Weathergal

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honeslty i'd lose my mind if someone did soul ii soul back to life. i characterise that as hiphop....... I don't think hiphop needs to necessaily mean rapping. I would say Justify My Love was hiphop in terms of rhythm.

To me hiphop is about rhythm derived from the sampling of Clyde Stubblefield on Funky Drummer, and some other rhythms that were multiply sampled.


here's also asmples of The jam by Graham central station- another hip hop staple.

I would also love it if someone used Soul II Soul's "Back to Life." Not sure why, but the first team I thought of that I think would do well with it are Green / Parsons.
 

boysoprano

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It depends on the team & the school. Davis & White and Virtue & Moir often hired specialists for input about particular rhythms/dance styles. And so have teams training in Montreal. Whether P&C do, I do not know, but if we get an interview with them, we will ask, because it is always an interesting question.
They did- see the instagram post!
 

dorispulaski

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From Wikipedia

Alexandra Stepanova & Ivan Bukin RUS
RD: Hip Hop: "Everybody (Apashe/Oski/Lennon Remix)" by The Backstreet Boys; Blues: "Monster" by Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber; choreo. by Irina Zhuk
FD: "We Have a Map of the Piano" by Múm; "A Time for Us" (from Romeo and Juliet) by Nino Rota; choreo. by Irina Zhuk

Tiffany Zahorski & Jonathon Guerreiro RUS
RD: "Jogi" by Panjabi MC; "Buzz" by Aastha Gill, feat. Badshah; choreo. by Elena Kustarova Olga Riabinina
FD: "Toxic;" "Smoke on the Water" performed by 2WEI; choreo. by Christopher Dean

Kamila Valieva RUS
SP: "In Memoriam" by Kirill Richter; choreo. by Daniil Gleikhengauz
FS: "Boléro" by Maurice Ravel; choreo. by Daniil Gleikhengauz

Anna Scherbakova RUS
SP: "The Songs of Distant Earth" by Kirill Richter
FS: "Ruska" by Apocalyptica; "The Big Satan's Ball" (from The Master and Margarita) by Igor Kornelyuk; "Requiem" by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, performed by David Garrett; choreo. by Daniil Gleikhengauz

Alena Kostornaia RUS
SP: "Am I the One?" by Beth Hart
FS: The Four Seasons: Winter by Antonio Vivald; choreo. by Daniil Gleikhengauz

Maiia Khromykh RUS
SP: "I'll Take Care of You" by Beth Hart and Joe Bonamassa
choreo. by Ksenia Potalitsyna
FS: "Buenos Aires Hora Cero" by Astor Piazzolla, performed by Gidon Kremer; "El Tango de Roxanne" (from Moulin Rouge), performed by Anna Dereszowska

Daria Usacheva RUS
SP: "Never Enough" (from The Greatest Showman)
by Loren Allred; choreo. by Daniil Gleikhengauz
FS: "Nessun dorma" (from Turandot) by Giacomo Puccini,bperformed by Jackie Evancho; choreo. by Daniil Gleikhengauz
 
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snowflake

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bits from the programs if you are on instagram:

SP
Music: Black Betty - Ram Jam
Choreo by Benoit Richaud

FS
Music: Il mostro - Ashram
Le di a la caza alcance - Estrella Morente
Choreo by Benoit Richaud
 

ManiDani

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Kim Gingras I think was on the Canadian version of So You Think You Can Dance, but I'm not looking her dances up)
Kim was a contestant on season 2 of SYTYCD Canada, where she was paired with Canadian figure skater Emanuel Sandhu for this jazz/funk performance. I am not sure if Kim has any previous experience choreographing on the floor or on the ice, but she has established a strong career in commercial dancing to the required rhythms for this season. For instance, she has toured extensively with Beyoncé, and has also performed as a backup dancer with J Lo and Justin Timberlake.
 

Skatesocs

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Kim was a contestant on season 2 of SYTYCD Canada, where she was paired with Canadian figure skater Emanuel Sandhu for this jazz/funk performance. I am not sure if Kim has any previous experience choreographing on the floor or on the ice, but she has established a strong career in commercial dancing to the required rhythms for this season. For instance, she has toured extensively with Beyoncé, and has also performed as a backup dancer with J Lo and Justin Timberlake.
Thanks! I was actually (not) going to look up her solos - that's where you see the self-choreography, and the choreographic talent - but since that season was so long ago, the information wouldn't have mattered (and hence me not looking it up haha). I'm glad she's worked with the mentioned singers. Clearly, she must be talented at commercial, jazz funk, and "lyrical hip hop". (She outperformed Sandhu by quite a lot there, btw)
 
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