2021 Skate America: Women's Short Program

[readernick]

Unfortunately no, that is not skating if someone that skates like Satoko is not rewarded.

Like it or not and I don't like it it is a fact that is how skating is scored. I feel like separate panels for PCS and TES would improve on this a lot but the ISU doesn't seem inclined to do so...so??? I love skating and I continue to watch and I accept that PCS and GOE are judged the way they are... Inaccurately

 

[Lutzedge]

amber ur jump was not called, satokos were, she is american in usa of course, I hate it

I was in shock that it wasn't called! But then I thought, "It is in the USA."

 

[Jontor]

she was not lol
even a commentator said that darias lutz is revievied, bu still judges did nothin

Well, a review just means that the judges want to look at it again. It doesn't mean that something is necessarily wrong.

 

[brigit66]

I was in shock that it wasn't called! But then I thought, "It is in the USA."

It is not about usa. Every big fed does it now, ignoring their own skaters mistakes, usa russia, canada

 

[brigit66]

Well, a review just means that the judges want to look at it again. It doesn't mean that something is necessarily wrong.

But it was , and they knew it, thats whye they looked at it again

 

[Lutzedge]

It is not about usa. Every country does it now, ignoring their own skaters mistakes

I know. But how did Trusova score a 77? The judging has been very questionable this event.

 

[Mathman]

A lot of fine skating. Johnny Weir favored Usacheva over Trusova on the basis iof basic skating skills. But Trusova commanded the ice. I am OK with the result.

Some skaters left technical points on the table, but even Starr Andrews, who finished at the bottom, has improved her overall skating this year.

 

[readernick]

This technical panel called a total of zero edges. Well, okay then.

Yes, fair enough. If they had, the top two skaters who have suffered but so would Kaori and Yelim who both also flutz.

 

[Jontor]

But it was , and they knew it, thats whye they looked at it again

Then we have to disagree. I thought Daria's Lutz looked fine. The one that was dangerously close to a ! call was Kaori's.

 

[Lutzedge]

A lot of fine skating. Johnny Weir favored Usacheva over Trusova on the basis iof basic skating skills. But Trusova commanded the ice. I am OK with the result.

Some skaters left technical points on the table, but even Starr Andrews, who finished at the bottom, has improved her overall skating this year.

Trusova did well, but Usacheva should have scored higher.

 

[Lutzedge]

Then we have to disagree. I thought Daria's Lutz looked fine. The one that was dangerously close to a ! call was Kaori's.

I think I have seen Kaori's lutz look worse before. There were a lot of problems with the scoring.

 

[Mathman]

Trusova did well, but Usacheva should have scored higher.

Daria was enchanting. :yes:

 

[cheerknithanson]

I'm just very happy Trusova did very well.

 

[Lutzedge]

Daria was enchanting. :yes:

Their were of course some things she needs to work on, but she is only 15, and it is her first GP event. I really liked the growth of the program as it went on.

 

[brigit66]

Then we have to disagree. I thought Daria's Lutz looked fine. The one that was dangerously close to a ! call was Kaori's.

no, it was flat

 

[Lutzedge]

no, it was flat

Who? Daria or Kaori?

 

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It was a good event. The placements among top 6 seem fair. Sasha had very strong presence - I never saw her skate like that. Daria was superb. Her lutz edge is always a question mark but I understand that no one was called today on edges. Ksenia was scored harshly - may be it was a bit of reputation judging of a debutant. I would still place her third but closer to Daria and Sasha.

I don't understand the ideas of bringing Yelim ahead of any of the Russians. She has big jumps. At the same time her overall skating lacks finesse and I saw very little connection to the music. Well, as one poster said here, she did not like one country at the top. But what can you do if they were better tonight?

 

[randomfan]

Like it or not and I don't like it it is a fact that is how skating is scored. I feel like separate panels for PCS and TES would improve on this a lot but the ISU doesn't seem inclined to do so...so??? I love skating and I continue to watch and I accept that PCS and GOE are judged the way they are... Inaccurately

I think that while it is a problem that TES and PCS aren’t judged by separate panels, the bigger issue is that all the judges these days just won’t get rid of the Eteri bonus

 

[Lutzedge]

It was a good event. The placements among top 6 seem fair. Sasha had very strong presence - I never saw her skate like that. Daria was superb. Her lutz edge is always a question mark but I understand that no one was called today on edges. Ksenia was scored harshly - may be it was a bit of reputation judging of a debutant. I would still place her third but closer to Daria and Sasha.

I don't understand the ideas of bringing Yelim ahead of any of the Russians. She has big jumps. At the same time her overall skating lacks finesse and I saw very little connection to the music. Well, as one poster said here, she did not like one country at the top. But what can you do if they were better tonight?

Neither Sasha or Yelim have very strong PCS. That is why Yelim scored a 31. But Yelim does have good flow and speed across the ice, which Trusova was lacking. But on the other hand, like you mentioned, Trusova had a strong presence. Trusova should have not scored that high.

 

[Amei]

Sorry but it looks more like a cover a rough landing ...

Agree on some of them they are meant to accentuate music to aid GOEs, but also we've seen where skaters can use the 'flairs' to help cover up the less than ideal landings. I don't think Trusova's would be terrible if she wasn't injured - whatever is going on with Trusova's injury (I've heard some say its her leg and others say its her foot) its causing really heavy landings so the 'flairs' she does look bad.

Seems the panel are not very on calling edges these days, but it´s the same for everyone I think. I can´t tell them apart anyway so I have no idea if they should be called or not.

They should bring in the Tech caller from Budapest, lol. I can live with a lenient or strict tech caller as long as its consistent among everyone