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Evgeni Plushenko

They did 😞 I don't get what happened...I know a large group of his fans were deeply upset about the Eurovision thing (your guess is as good as mine as to why, I thought that was awesome when I found out about it!) and turned their fan board into a hate board 😳 (I wonder if some of the fans quoted in that story are among them...)

I guess he overstayed his welcome and that he didn't do good enough at his last two Olympics. Reminds me of the UK press and Andy Murray, when he does well they're happy to claim him, when he loses he's suddenly "That guy from Scotland"
Plushenko is very different from all other skaters. In Russia, even those people who are indifferent to figure skating know him well. Valieva has just shown a phenomenal program, but if she wanted to get lost in the street crowd, she would have done it with ease, and no one would have recognized her. But Plushenko will be recognized instantly, even if he disguises himself.

When a person is so bright, everything becomes noticeable in him, even the smallest details. This means that there are also more possible reasons for hostility. I knew a woman who genuinely admired Plushenko's free skating, but literally went crazy with hatred while watching the Gala. It looked ridiculous.

There were very different claims against him, the list would probably consist of several thousand items, and participation in Eurovision is just one of the reasons. Helping Putin in the elections, marrying Rudkovskaya, the long-term war against Yagudin and Tarasova, refusing to fight at the Sochi Olympics - everything went into this "medal score".

With all this, I believe that if Plushenko manages to train at least one world champion among men in his academy, the attitude towards him will dramatically improve (at least temporarily). In the meantime, the Plushenko-coach haters resemble impatient gardeners who are sure that if they planted a tree yesterday, then today they can pick apples from it.
 
Thank you for the insight on the Russian view of Plushy @Alex Fedorov :) He's an interesting character that's for sure! I do remember seeing some brief Russian news story thing where the reporter went around with photos of athletes asking people on the street if they recognised them. I think Plushy was the only one all of them recognised.

Once I was talking with my Godmother here in Australia about my pet fish who I'd named after Plushy, she immediately knew who he was! Now maybe she's big into skating (I don't see her that often) still the was a few years back after Plushy had retired, so my mind was blown a bit.

A couple of days back I posted a random story about Plushy on Insta and my friend mentioned her mother would know about it - admittedly I haven't found out if she means figure skating in general, but I thought it was cool.

I knew a woman who genuinely admired Plushenko's free skating, but literally went crazy with hatred while watching the Gala.
How strange indeed! Did she stay hating him or go back to enjoying the free skating? And was it the Sex Bomb Ex, I know that one was quite contraversial :laugh2:

Moving along, hello fellow Plushy fans!

Coachshenko Content

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW2BdiFFOZ_ - Helping Nastya Z on the choreo for her SP. I find this fascinating since as previously mentioned Plushy was originally going to skate to this music himself. I wonder if he choreo'ed some of Nastya's program then?

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CW3oOCNgiQb/ - With Sofia Sarnovskaya and Milana Goritskova - the road to the Olympics has to start somewhere, in this case a jump-off - how cute! 🥰


Yana Stuff

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW3kd7Xt0fV - At the Dior Christmas Banquet - 'tis the Season!

Right I'm about to finish lunch so that's all for now.

Until next time :biggrin:
 
How strange indeed! Did she stay hating him or go back to enjoying the free skating? And was it the Sex Bomb Ex, I know that one was quite contraversial :laugh2:
if I remember correctly, it was exactly the "sex bomb". But no, she did not become his real hater and later watched his performances with pleasure. In some aspects, such a paradoxical reaction to Plushenko is very symptomatic. You say before that many people were looking forward to when he finally left the sport. If we talk about Yagudin - it's naked true (they really hated each other since childhood), but, for example, the officials from RusFed were probably torn apart by very conflicting feelings.
 
Hello fellow Plushy fans!

The Junior Grand Prix Final is up in the air right now thanks to Corona virus being a butt.

Well I procrastinated so long on this that the news has come through...JGPF will not be happening (the ISU suggests it could maybe happen at the end of the season...I'm not hopeful though)

But I did have a reason for this post, and that reason is Plushy related content!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW8g6s9t1vS - Plushy and his girls 🤗

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CW576Y-ggCX - You know it just occurred to me that partnering up with a brand called R.O.C.S because he does indeed... rock ;)

Sasha Shenanigans

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CW57cJQIVQ6 - Sasha has a new lamp and it charges his phone. Love the wallpaper on it :biggrin:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CW8kXvvIMxy - Who let the dogs out?! Probably Sasha himself ;)

Arseniy Antics

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CW8mzWEoI46 - Arseniy in the snow, awww. 🥰

Yana Stuff

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW8jMCFND1A - Well, Yana is at least optimistic that Plushy's winter shows will happen. Only 29 days until the Nutcracker show returns :biggrin:

Well that's all for now.

Until next time.
 
Hello fellow Plushy fans!

Well the JGPF might be off but Plushy's Torino show continued!

Travelling in style

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXBF4Rog5C2 - On the jet to Torino.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXC2SshICzQ - In-flight entertainment.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXBwRZxNgWz - Yana, Plushy, Sasha, Nika and Sofia T and I'm not sure who the other girl is. Also features the famous "Angels of Plushenko" doormat 😃

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXC6XDsIVyw - No videos of the actual show yet, but here's part of the rehearsal. Sofia T is on the left, I think it's Nika on the right?

Coachshenko Content

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXCBUr7omvu - What's this I hear you ask? How can there be Coachshenko-ing from so far away? The wonders of technology! :biggrin:

Plushy advertising random stuff

https://www.instagram.com/plushenkoofficial/tv/CW_Hpt9AXlT - Eye massage glasses, but apparently Plushy can still see everything ;)

Sasha Shenanigans

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CW_GcHrILjz - Fancy footwork in the style of Plushy ;)

Yana Stuff

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW_bmqENlvr - The Lady in Red at the Vogue Russia dinner.

On that note I should be off, I'm going to church with my parents soon.

Until next time!
 
Plushy and his girls 🤗


This reminds me of some found archive photos,
that I have kept in reserve,
until now:

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This reminds me of some found archive photos,
that I have kept in reserve,
until now:
OMG! Plushy and cats...a favourite combination.

Those old photos are a goldmine, I have one where he's wearing double denim and sandals and sitting by the riverside. :laugh2:

In other news there was a post explosion over at the Plushy topic on the FS Cool Board, I was wondering what it could be and it turns out T Tarasova gave an interview on TV and was less than polite about Plushy, was downright nasty to Yana and dismissive of Sasha P's prospects (not entirely sure about the last bit, you know Google Translate) and wow! It set off a whole debate! I thought I lived in the past but there was like 5 pages of Salt Lake City discourse!

Then yesterday Yana gave an interview in reply, always a bad move TBH. Tarasova gave her interview a few days back and everyone was pleased that neither Plushy or Yana had anything to say about it - taking the high road as it were. Alas now it's a big mess... again...and only 3 weeks from the Senior Nats too.

Thanks a lot T Tarasova. Not sure what they needed to interview her for, did she have any ground-breaking insights? I think not. "Yagudin was the best skater ever, I know, I coached him myself...Plushenko doesn't have an artistic bone in his body and is a fake coach" film at 11.

Hmpf as some posters on the thread over there suggested, I bet Channel 1 NTV (or whatever they're called) did this on purpose to get more eyeballs watching Nats. Drama for drama's sake.

Grumble, I hate that kind of crap.
 
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Hello fellow Plushy fans!

Moving on from the unpleasantness, there's more from Plushy's show to enjoy!

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXGLGszg1Lx Sofia Titova's beautiful performance 🥰

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXHItFHLSvY - Veronika Zhilina's performance, she's looking good after her injury ☺️

https://www.instagram.com/plushenkoofficial/tv/CXD5X4uA81G - The Dream Team - Plushy, Edvin Marton and the Stradivarius violin

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXG4WbNAikH - Finale

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXGbdDBtqAM - Bye bye Italy (it also says see you soon, which is exciting, my mother might not want to go to Russia, but she'd go back to Italy! Maybe there's still hope I can see Plushy skate in real life yet!)

Well I should go as I'm at work and responsible for making sure everyone signs in properly before entering the library. It's also lunch time though and I'm hungry.

Until next time!
 
I was wondering what it could be and it turns out T Tarasova gave an interview on TV and was less than polite about Plushy, was downright nasty to Yana and dismissive of Sasha P's prospects (not entirely sure about the last bit, you know Google Translate)
This show lasted more than an hour and a half, but the conversation directly about Plushenko is rather short, less than three minutes.

1:22:43 - 1:25:17

Q: If you don't like something, you immediately speak the truth in face, right?

A: Yes.

Q: How do you like coach Evgeni Plushenko?

A: Well, now I'm looking - he has good little children. He will work [with them] - he will have results. Gradually, not like taking it right away.

Q: Tatyana Anatolyevna, peoples have been discussing a lot lately the confrontation between Zhenya Plushenko and Eteri Tutberidze ...

A: No, it's funny even to say, because Eteri is an outstanding coach, and Zhenya is a beginner coach. It's just ... Maybe Rudkovskaya decided that this would be more useful for promotion, but this is wrong, this is ridiculous. What to talk about? Zhenya has no one. What to talk about? Zhenya has been working for the first year. She does not understand that words do not decide here. Here work, action decides. When she understands this, it will not be too late. But she's already ruined him a lot. So I see that it works well - I state this. And when he will give results, then he will have results.

Q: What do you think is stopping him then?

A: Nothing gets in the way, only time is needed.

Q: Why did the skater girls leave Zhenya?

A: For the same reason.

Q: Do you think - maybe you are biased towards him?

A: No. Why should I be prejudiced against him?

Q: Well, because of Lyosha Yagudin.

A: No, yes from what, God. Where and who is Lyosha Yagudin, and who he is.

Q: Who, then, at that time, was more artistic - Zhenya Plushenko or Lyosha Yagudin?

A: Of course, Lyosha.

Q: Who was technically more advanced?

A: Of course, Lyosha

Q: Then where did this confrontation come from, why they, as everyone said and wrote, fought [among themselves]

A: Well, they both did the same number of quadruple jumps, triple jumps

Q: Gnome Gnomych - do you see potential in him?

A: I don't really see it yet.

Q: In my opinion as an amateur - the Gnome Gnomych, as Sasha is called, skates very well. How old is he there?

A: He skates well.

Q: But do you think we have to wait for now?

A: Yes, I think we should be quiet for a bit. Two years more to be silent.

Q: And see what happens?

A: Yes.

By the way, they even recalled the 1980 Olympics in Lake Placid. The statement that Plushenko has been working as a coach for the first year looks strange. Nevertheless, she is clearly progressing - after all, back in May, she did not recognize Evgeny as a coach at all.
 
I read several articles about the interview with Rudkovskaya. Key quotes:

«I don't think Tutberidze is the greatest coach. The greatest coaches are Mishin, Moskvina, Zhuk, Tarasova, Tchaikovskaya. Tutberidze is an excellent coach. She has a super team, they are great fellows. But Tutberidze will become the greatest coach when her athletes will pass not one Olympics, but two, three, four»

«I still believe that the arrival of Alena and Sasha was our strategic mistake. So is the division between the ice and the coaches. Evgeny hardly ever coached Kostornaya

«Evgeny coached Alena Kostornaya for only a month and a half. And when Sasha set the condition to choose - either she or Kostornaya, my husband chose her. When athletes set such conditions, I agree with Eteri Georgievna - there will be no sense»

«We are in excellent relations with Sasha, with her parents. We have a contract for a show that she must to skate.»

«If Sasha had listened to Eugene in everything at the World Championship, she would have become the world champion. Evgeny and his team think so, and I cannot disagree with them.»

The fighting continues...
 
Total *beep*-show is what it is.

I'll say one thing...though Yana shouldn't have brought up Sasha and Aliona (that was idiotic) she's far nicer to T Tarasova than I'd ever be. I have several things I'd like to say to that woman, none of which is printable. If her aim is to destroy Russian figure skating from the inside, bravo to her, she's doing a fine job.

I still don't see the point of the interviewer even asking those questions. Everyone knows what Tarasova thinks about Plushy, I know it and I'm not even Russian.

It was a stupid interview and someone should get their butt fired.

Now instead of talking about Plushy's wonderful show, they're talking about this crap instead. :(
 
Total *beep*-show is what it is.
I have to say that the bulk of this show was about very different issues. But I still didn't like it, it was unpleasant to watch.

She has a heavy despotic character, probably inherited from her father. A well-known fact of the biography of Tarasova - her second husband committed suicide after a quarrel. But, on the other hand, she has trained a lot of figure skating champions. I think she is jealous of both Tutberidze and Plushenko, because she herself was never able to create her own figure skating school after returning from the United States.

Now, according to her, she no longer wants to start anything. She is almost paralyzed and does not really hope to live even one year. But skaters and coaches still listen to her words, otherwise Rudkovskaya would not answer.
 
though Yana shouldn't have brought up Sasha and Aliona (that was idiotic) she's far nicer to T Tarasova than I'd ever be.
Sasha Trusova is similar in some aspects to Plushenko - she is very ambitious, always striving for new records and achievements. Like Eugene once, she would like to perform jumps in five turns. I think he felt this mental closeness, and therefore chose her. But the "base" for Sasha was created by Eteri anyway. Perhaps this was precisely the mistake: it was too late to remake Sasha.
 
She is almost paralyzed and does not really hope to live even one year.
Well now I feel bad for thinking mean thoughts about her, but it still doesn't not fair of her to take it out in Plushy if she's jealous.

Perhaps someone should remind/inform her that Plushy was not just "given" a school. He (and Yana) built it from the ground up, there's investors and sponsors and stuff, but they still had to put in the hard yards. The Russian Figure Skating Fed is certainly not falling over themselves to do the Academy any favours.

I'll admit I don't know the ins and outs of T Tarasova's life, but if she expected to be gifted a school that's got nothing to do with Plushy.
 
Well now I feel bad for thinking mean thoughts about her, but it still doesn't not fair of her to take it out in Plushy if she's jealous.
don't worry about it. Tarasova hardly counts on any other reaction when she makes her speeches. I would even say that such a reaction is natural. And here's the proof: the full text of Rudkovskaya's interview:

https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...chenko-1865975/?text_link&text_link_important

I don't have time to translate right now, but in this case a Google translate can work more or less adequately. However, even without translation, it is clearly noticeable how little Tarasova said and how much Rudkovskaya had to say later. TAT is a true master of provocations.
 
Hello fellow Plushy fans.

Well, it's like we've gone back in time to last year. The Russian "news" sites (I use the term loosely) are full of articles about the latest war of words. Now that dreadful Laishev from Sambo 70 has weighed in and I'm half expecting that choreographer jerk what'shisname to thrown down a duel challenge.

To say I'm annoyed is an understatement, the stupid Russian media just couldn't leave well enough alone, nooooo they needed draaaama. And who better to pick on than Yana, a known responder to crappy comments about herself and her family (can you blame her though? Really?) It was like shooting fish in a barrel.

I hope they're proud of themselves, they're a bag of Tim without the "E"s as far as I'm concerned. I pity their families who must be thoroughly embarrassed to be associated with such trash. I know I would be.

Anyway, nuts to them, there's good news afoot.

https://realty.ria.ru/20211203/plyuschenko-1762001561.html - The Academy's Moscow Rink is being built. Although it does raise questions...will Plushy split his time between the rinks? It will be convenient for some skaters but not others, so will new coaches need to be brought in?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXJipWmttc9 - A better look at Plushy and Sasha's matching costumes 🤗 So cute!

Sasha Shenanigans

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXJfnS_AjPi - Sasha at the Finale. Love the little bows :laugh:

Arseniy Antics

https://www.instagram.com/plushenkoarseny/tv/CW8mzWEoI46 - Arseniy's first time in the snow. Looks like he's having a blast. 🥰

Yana Stuff

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXJqXtXtWrg - At the GQ Event

Breakfast!

https://www.instagram.com/rudkovskayaofficial/p/CXIryLCtEVj - Well, I've got the munchies now ;)

Right up at work so better get busy!

Until next time.
 
Well, it's like we've gone back in time to last year. The Russian "news" sites (I use the term loosely) are full of articles about the latest war of words. Now that dreadful Laishev from Sambo 70 has weighed in and I'm half expecting that choreographer jerk what'shisname to thrown down a duel challenge.

To say I'm annoyed is an understatement, the stupid Russian media just couldn't leave well enough alone, nooooo they needed draaaama. And who better to pick on than Yana, a known responder to crappy comments about herself and her family (can you blame her though? Really?) It was like shooting fish in a barrel.
Very well said, moose! :LOL:
 
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