Well, maybe because I have listened to his music too much? And I don't think he was an innovative composer. But it's just my opinion.^Blashphemy! Rachmaninov's Concerto no. 2 is one of the greatest musical compositions of all time! How can you say it's cheesy?
*prepares the pitchforks*
If we are talking about composer of the same era, then I prefer someone with more provoking thoughts and philosophy in composing, like Stravinsky. After that, I prefer Shostakhovic and Prokofiev. They dug deeper, in my opinion.
You mean Game of throne? I guess it's still too early and choreographers are not that open and up-to-date. May be next season, the one after that. Sooner or latter, I am sure there will be programs using Game of throne soundtrack. We might even see skaters use Greenday's songs.
Well, maybe because I have listened to his music too much? And I don't think he was an innovative composer. But it's just my opinion.
If we are talking about composer of the same era, then I prefer someone with more provoking thoughts and philosophy in composing, like Stravinsky. After that, I prefer Shostakhovic and Prokofiev. They dug deeper, in my opinion.
There is another piano-oriented composer that I like very much, he was Rach's good friend, also a Russian even though he was not as much famous.
That was Medtner, he had a wonderful piano piece and a wonderful title (forgotten memories)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7X7KZ4GTTto
The title and the music could be a wonderful theme for any skater. I hope there will be one to use this music.
Ps: Well, to me, cheesy is not really a negative word. I like Brahms and Schubert very much but I also call some of their pieces cheesy all the time.
Re: Brahms, "cheesy" is not a word that comes to my mind
Re: GoT, since it's so current, I wonder if any copyright/performance rights issues might be involved?
I prefer Rach 3 over Rach 2. But personally I like the background story behind this piece. If I remember correctly, Rach finished his 2nd piano concerto after a long depression and numerous visits to psychologist because of previous failures. If we think about the context, Mao's LP performance at Sochi is very fitted to this piece. And personally I think her performance is the strongest Rach 2 LP ever. still not my favorite piano concerto, though.Ahhh...glad you clarified that, Meoima! I was wondering about that the other day, too -- hadn't exactly gotten out the pitchforks but was definitely puzzled and feeling somewhat indignant. It's not Rach's fault that the 2nd Piano Concerto has been used to death for every purpose under the sun, or choreographed or skated badly.
Personally I think this piece of Brahms is pretty cheesy. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d1uMFlRkRmkRe: Brahms, "cheesy" is not a word that comes to my mind but some of his choral music does annoy the daylights out of me (major exceptions: the Requiem and the Liebeslieder Waltzes, which I could practically eat with a spoon!). I've sung a lot of it and some of it feels oddly manipulative to me. Don't ask me why; it's just a weird gut reaction. Love his other works, especially the piano trios, but something odd happens in the choral music. Again, just one person's opinion.
Rach 3 played by Horowitz from 1951, Rach 2 played by Richter from 1959 (Wislocki, Warsaw Philharmonic). Period. Both played in a way that made me see the pieces in a bit of a new light, especially with Richter; I highly recommend listening to these two recordings, even if you think Rach 2 is cheesyI prefer Rach 3 over Rach 2. But personally I like the background story behind this piece. If I remember correctly, Rach finished his 2nd piano concerto after a long depression and numerous visits to psychologist because of previous failures. If we think about the context, Mao's LP performance at Sochi is very fitted to this piece. And personally I think her performance is the strongest Rach 2 LP ever. still not my favorite piano concerto, though.
Thank you, I've listened to all. Horowitz and Richter are my favorite so of course I have lots of their recordings. Russians again, you can't run away from them because they are so talented.Rach 3 played by Horowitz from 1951, Rach 2 played by Richter from 1959 (Wislocki, Warsaw Philharmonic). Period. Both played in a way that made me see the pieces in a bit of a new light, especially with Richter; I highly recommend listening to these two recordings, even if you think Rach 2 is cheesy
Of all Rach's works, I like this piece very much, it sounds...manly yet intimate at the same time. Best wishes for you working with this piece. Have you ever listened to Lungansky performed this piece? Russian pianist again.the op 23 no 5! I'm actually working on it right now so I have an affinity towards it.
Thank you for the link. And... Oh no Lambiel, I love you very much but...this piece doesn't suite your interpretation.Stephane skated to it, actually, I don't know if you've seen it before. (I don't like the interpretation he used, but whatever, I'm too picky )
Ahhh...glad you clarified that, Meoima! I was wondering about that the other day, too -- hadn't exactly gotten out the pitchforks but was definitely puzzled and feeling somewhat indignant. It's not Rach's fault that the 2nd Piano Concerto has been used to death for every purpose under the sun, or choreographed or skated badly.
Re: Brahms, "cheesy" is not a word that comes to my mind but some of his choral music does annoy the daylights out of me (major exceptions: the Requiem and the Liebeslieder Waltzes, which I could practically eat with a spoon!). I've sung a lot of it and some of it feels oddly manipulative to me. Don't ask me why; it's just a weird gut reaction. Love his other works, especially the piano trios, but something odd happens in the choral music. Again, just one person's opinion.
Re: GoT, since it's so current, I wonder if any copyright/performance rights issues might be involved?
Richter is my favorite and my go to for most pieces; very glad that you know those recordings. Many don't dig deep enough to get to those old recordings.Thank you, I've listened to all. Horowitz and Richter are my favorite so of course I have lots of their recordings. Russians again, you can't run away from them because they are so talented.
thank you, it's a very difficult piece :scowl: I have and I like it - but maybe a teensy bit too fast. (I have to say that I prefer Richter. is my bias showing through?) Indeed, those Russians. Especially the dead ones.Of all Rach's works, I like this piece very much, it sounds...manly yet intimate at the same time. Best wishes for you working with this piece. Have you ever listened to Lungansky performed this piece? Russian pianist again.
agreed. there are a few okay moments (spins spins spins) but otherwise...Thank you for the link. And... Oh no Lambiel, I love you very much but...this piece doesn't suite your interpretation.
I don't think so. Yuna has her own style and she makes me feel the passion with her Turandot. She can choose what she wants and I'd love to watch something renewable. In fact, Yuna used it for ex, not for competitive program because of Shizuka Oly's TurandotDid not like Kim Yuna re-using Turandot for her exhibition. In my mind, that music belongs to Shizuka Arakawa; she absolutely nailed it in 2006 and nobody could do it better than she did. I love Kim Yuna but she shouldn't have used that music.
Did not like Kim Yuna re-using Turandot for her exhibition. In my mind, that music belongs to Shizuka Arakawa; she absolutely nailed it in 2006 and nobody could do it better than she did. I love Kim Yuna but she shouldn't have used that music.