One of the things I agreed with Charlie about is that Madi and Zack's FS is a masterpiece - Montreal masterpiece LOL! IMHO their skating skills are so much better than anyone's in the field except for the third placed Russians. I love the Shibs' music - such a beautiful piece - and they are so clean and precise, but to give them higher SS scores than Madi and Zack is a head scratcher to me.