Patrick Chan

[Ender]

Me too. Hopefully is just limiting the amount of competing to gear up for GPF and beyond.

I heard that 4F was giving him some trouble. I hope not. Please stay healthy!

 

[4everchan]

I heard that 4F was giving him some trouble. I hope not. Please stay healthy!

where did you hear that? Because in the last interview, posted here, on GS itself, Patrick isn't even planning to use the 4flip... he played with it in the summer... and then presented his programs without it in August and said, he was mostly using the 4f to get an easier feel for his 4s...

So, if you have something to say, please cite your sources. Rumours about potential injuries or health issues are not welcomed here.

 

[Kuan]

@Kuan, my old friend, wish you all the best!!

Thank you

Regarding Nebelhorn Trophy:
Aww, I try not to be too disappointed, but it is hard Patrick, please be healthy! I can't have more bad news this morning.

 

[4everchan]

Thank you

Regarding Nebelhorn Trophy:
Aww, I try not to be too disappointed, but it is hard Patrick, please be healthy! I can't have more bad news this morning.

i thought of you and MaiKatze when the news came out...

 

[happylife]

Thank you

Regarding Nebelhorn Trophy:
Aww, I try not to be too disappointed, but it is hard Patrick, please be healthy! I can't have more bad news this morning.

Well. it's a bit disappointing for not seeing Patrick at the competition. I wish you have a wonderful time at Nebellhorn Trophy.

 

[vivley]

Patrick is off the list for Nebelhorn
http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat03108203.htm

I hope everything is fine with him.

Well, this is strange. So far on Twitter only one person has reported this news, but when skaters withdraw from an event, aren't they still on the list, just with a "WD" next to their name?

Looking at the ISU list for Nebelhorn, it looks as if Patrick never registered to enter the competition at all. But Skate Canada still has him listed as assigned the event:

https://skatecanada.ca/2017-2018-event-schedule/

So I'm hoping somehow that this is just an administrative snafu and Patrick hasn't withdrawn from the competition.

My prediction for this 2017-2018 season: It will be unpredictable, because Patrick has been keeping quiet about his plans and not announcing them beforehand. In fact, I can see him doing what he did at WTT and substituting a more difficult jump (e.g., 4F) for his planned jump!

 

[Violet Bliss]

Patrick will include 4F if he feels its execution will be smoothly incorporated into the program. So I guess it depends on how comfortable he's with it. He's cautiously ambitious and not rushing it.

 

[4everchan]

Patrick will include 4F if he feels its execution will be smoothly incorporated into the program. So I guess it depends on how comfortable he's with it. He's cautiously ambitious and not rushing it.

Well. That is not what he said in the latest interview.

Re nebelhorn : he was definitely on the list vivley. If skaters withdraw when the event is started they do put a wd but before the event they simply often remove the names, especially when countries submit substitutes.

 

[Violet Bliss]

Well. That is not what he said in the latest interview.

What Patrick said in the latest interview, as transcripted by vivley:

Patrick: Yeah, I’m feeling confident with that decision… More so adding a second quad in the short, more so than adding a quad flip to the long program at the moment. There’s just so much in the sport of figure skating now, there’s so much to juggle, and for the way I skate and the way I want to skate at the Olympics, I don’t want to compromise anything else in order to add a more difficult quad. I don’t want to sacrifice anything for that. So, that being said, the best move forward for me was to add a quad sal to the short program, up the value of the short, to give me a little more breathing room for the long program. So that’s the plan so far with, and then we’re keeping the two quad, one sal plan in the long program for the time being, because I also want to… With pieces like “Hallelujah” and “Dust in the Wind”, I really want to do them justice. And I think I wouldn’t help the programs if I added another quad; especially if I was struggling with it. And… unless it’s like easy and it’s flowing, like a quad toe of mine, it’s… I don’t think there’s much benefit in that, because it will sacrifice a lot for the type of skater that I am.

He said he's not adding a new quad to the LP at the moment so as not to sacrifice the program's integrity. But the caveat is unless it's flowing like his quad toe. He brought up 4F himself in this conversation and there was something in an earlier interview re 4F that makes me think he's not taking it definitely off the table but would only include it in a program if he is satisfied with its quality and success rate such that it would fit in with the flow of the program. There is no telling at all if we'll get to see its inclusion in the LP but there are reasons why he's practicing it.

I trust Patrick to be careful about his health. Given his priorities and emphasis for his skating, I know I'll get to enjoy some amazing performances this season.

 

[4everchan]

The way i hear it is that he is not planning to add a quad flip as it is not flowing as his 4t. You can hear it adding a not ready yet tone to it, but i hear it otherwise. Thanks for showing your view of the situation. I still think he will not add the 4f and i would go further saying he is not seriously practicing it. Why? Last year, he was marking the 4s early on and kept saying it was almost ready. I do not see him doing any marking for now nor hearong that he is getting it ready. Ymmv.

 

[skatingfan4ever]

Well, I'm sad that we won't get to see Dust in the Wind or Hallelujah again until the end of October. That seems like such a long wait when we were expecting to see them next weekend. hwell: But it is just a Senior B. I wish Patrick good health and happiness moving forward. He rarely has withdrawn from a competition, so there must be a valid reason. I trust Patrick. If there is something more substantial to announce later, such as an injury, he will announce it. He wants to skate well at the Olympics, and if skipping Nebelhorn will help with that, so be it. Chiddy fans, let's have a . Given how fans on GS have jumped on Gracie for announcing why she's not going to JO, maybe it's a wise move for Patrick not to say anything.

 

[Violet Bliss]

The way i hear it is that he is not planning to add a quad flup as it is not flowing as his 4t. You can hear it adding a not ready yet tone to it, but i hear it otherwise. Thanks for showing your view of the situation. I still think he will not add the 4f and i would go further saying he is not seriously practicing it. Why? Last year, he was marking the 4s early on and kept saying it was almost ready. I do not see him doing any marking for now nor hearong that he is getting it ready. Ymmv.

It all comes down to the flow and artistic expression of the program. Patrick feels that as things are, trying to do a 4F in his LP, either additionally or as a replacement, would compromise his performance of the program. Therefore, if he feels he can do the program justice with a new quad, there is no reason not to include it.

Of course all this is deductional and hypothetical. As usual, I will simply watch how things unfold.

 

[Violet Bliss]

Well, I'm sad that we won't get to see Dust in the Wind or Hallelujah again until the end of October. That seems like such a long wait when we were expecting to see them next weekend. hwell: But it is just a Senior B. I wish Patrick good health and happiness moving forward. He rarely has withdrawn from a competition, so there must be a valid reason. I trust Patrick. If there is something more substantial to announce later, such as an injury, he will announce it. He wants to skate well at the Olympics, and if skipping Nebelhorn will help with that, so be it. Chiddy fans, let's have a . Given how fans on GS have jumped on Gracie for announcing why she's not going to JO, maybe it's a wise move for Patrick not to say anything.

There is neither confirmation no explanation of his withdrawal from Nebelhorn. vivley's examination of info sources shows inconsistency. We have to wait to know what happens re Nebelhorn. Whenever we get to see DITW and Hallelujah again, I wish to see Patrick in good health and spirits, and the programs well performed.

eta. There is an/another oddity on Nebelhorn's Mens entries list. Where Patrick's name is supposed to appear, the TPE skater's name is inserted out of place. Could it a related snafu?

 

[skatingfan4ever]

There is neither confirmation no explanation of his withdrawal from Nebelhorn. vivley's examination of info sources shows inconsistency. We have to wait to know what happens re Nebelhorn. Whenever we get to see DITW and Hallelujah again, I wish to see Patrick in good health and spirits, and the programs well performed.

eta. There is an/another oddity on Nebelhorn's Mens entries list. Where Patrick's name is supposed to appear, the TPE skater's name is inserted out of place. Could it a related snafu?

We'll see.

 

[fypchan]

There is neither confirmation no explanation of his withdrawal from Nebelhorn. vivley's examination of info sources shows inconsistency. We have to wait to know what happens re Nebelhorn. Whenever we get to see DITW and Hallelujah again, I wish to see Patrick in good health and spirits, and the programs well performed.

eta. There is an/another oddity on Nebelhorn's Mens entries list. Where Patrick's name is supposed to appear, the TPE skater's name is inserted out of place. Could it a related snafu?

I thought TPE is up there because, "Chinese Taipei". I checked ACI's list to be sure: Meng Ju Lee from TPE is listed right after Nam, so I don't think it was a mistake.

http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat03108189.htm

 

[Violet Bliss]

I thought TPE is up there because, "Chinese Taipei". I checked ACI's list to be sure: Meng Ju Lee from TPE is listed right after Nam, so I don't think it was a mistake.

http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat03108189.htm

I knew TPE was Taiwan/Chinese Taipei but thought they would list them alphabetically by the abbreviation. After all, they didn't use CTP. I wonder how they list TPE in the Olympics. :think:

 

[4everchan]

Of course all this is deductional and hypothetical. As usual, I will simply watch how things unfold.

keep sipping the tea while the truth unfolds

 

[Violet Bliss]

keep sipping the tea while the truth unfolds

Truth does not unfold. It is always there and will reveal itself sooner or later.

Events are always unfolding, as effects of past events and causes of future events.

Tea is always being made and sipped, with or without yummies.

And what are you doing here instead of writing up your AC experience? Interesting unfolding in front of your own eyes, eh?

 

[ice coverage]

I knew TPE was Taiwan/Chinese Taipei but thought they would list them alphabetically by the abbreviation. After all, they didn't use CTP. I wonder how they list TPE in the Olympics. :think:

I thought TPE is up there because, "Chinese Taipei". I checked ACI's list to be sure: Meng Ju Lee from TPE is listed right after Nam, so I don't think it was a mistake.

http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat03108189.htm

I agree with fypchan that the abbreviations seem to be intentionally *not* the basis for alphabetization.

For ACI, the men from ESP are listed after those from JPN.

For Nebelhorn, the men from KOR are listed after those from POL.

http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat03108203.htm​

 

[Violet Bliss]

I agree with fypchan that the abbreviations seem to be intentionally *not* the basis for alphabetization.

For ACI, the men from ESP are listed after those from JPN.

For Nebelhorn, the men from KOR are listed after those from POL.

http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat03108203.htm​

I looked up ISU listing and find it interesting that HKG is listed as Hong Kong/China and filed under H. (HK is officially and indisputably part of China.) North Korea, DPRK is listed as PRK and filed under D. Still interested to verify if the Olympics list nations under the same system.

The Olympics capitalize athletes' family names but put them in the order according to the culture whereas ISU put all family names last.