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I didn't even wait for it to begin yet, I've already disliked it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8eoOOloSk
EDIT: LOL they're late.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8eoOOloSk
EDIT: LOL they're late.
Exactly my same point.I think it would be just as valid to say that I don’t think that skaters who can’t execute level 4 step sequences should be able to compete with those who can. (Or any other specific blade-to-ice skill. I named that one because it is a common element in senior programs as the sport is practiced today. Feel free to add “back paragraph loops” “iron cross” or “full-rink spread eagles” or “double axels in both directions” or “axel that covers at least 10 feet of ice in the air” or “Biellmann spin” or “writing one’s name [or some standard word] with the blade of one foot without putting the other foot down” or “averaging ice speed of at least 20 mph throughout a 4-minute program” or any other difficult skating feat that separates the worthy from the unworthy winners.
For myself, I think that the great potential of a point-based approach to elements is to allow skaters to build up points by meeting minimum expectations and then going beyond the minimum by pushing limits in their own best areas of technical/athletic expertise. For many of the top men these days, that means multiple quads. But I personally believe that the sport should be structured to allow different kinds of champions with different kinds of personal top strengths. And of course that the skater with the most different kinds of strengths should have an advantage over skater who are only good at one kind of skill. Even if that one kind of skill is rotating 4 times in the air from various takeoffs.
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Your are such an USB lover...Hi, Lakernik, I didn't miss you.
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Chafik Besseghier is a good example who show that having multiple quads is not big advantage even in a country with little competition. The guy lost to Kevin Aymoz at 2016 french nationals. He had 4 quads, Kevin Aymoz 0. Why did he lose? PCS and GOEs. You can have quads but you will lose if your GOEs and PCS are not competitives. But some people seem to forget that when they want quads to be reduced.I wouldn't say it's the only way for them to exist, but for skaters like Chafik Besseghier and Valtter Virtanen, the ability to land a quad has been a big, big help in getting into the free skate at Worlds level and getting on the podium/into the top ranks at Senior B and Challenger events given that they don't rack up enormous PCS scores. Likewise Brendan Kerry.
You have a skater like Moris Kvitelashvili who finished 13th at 2017 worlds with 4 quads.
I assume that he had so much advantage over skaters with only triples that he finished behind Jason Brown and Misha Ge, and was only 0,24 points above Deniss Vassiljevs
Poor Lakernik already looks like he's gonna need triple strength coffee to get through this...
Poor Lakernik already looks like he's gonna need triple strength coffee to get through this...
Moris fall all the time, and is way a worst skater than the other three. Or you are saying that Latvia and Uzbekistan are such a powerful feds ?
I am saying that skaters with quads don't always win against skaters with only triples. So i don't understand why it's so unfair to let some skaters to have multiples quads in their programs since they don't even win.