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It's cos of the quads! We're all excited about Jin's 6-quad layout.
Yes, I notice that, but it is kind of funny that the SP thread has only one page while this one has already four. eace:
It's cos of the quads! We're all excited about Jin's 6-quad layout.
China ought to send him to Orser asap or he will bomb in the PCS. Highest TES, lowest PCS.
Please don't mention Orser when talking about polishing this guy. Jin actually has some natural lines compare that to Nam who has been with him a while and its obvious that that camp had no ballet or modern dance training.
I notice something funny. Why are we talking about the men's event on the page for FS? Isn't it supposed to be the SP page first since the competition isn't even started?
Right, so what's Jin's BV in the short program?
Please don't mention Orser when talking about polishing this guy. Jin actually has some natural lines compare that to Nam who has been with him a while and its obvious that that camp had no ballet or modern dance training.
Or maybe Boyang simply doesn't feel need to improve his presentation drastically. Maybe he enjoys being himself and being jumper chasing more quads.
YouTube, Yuzuru, Vertigo, when he was 16. My nightmare.
Nam has only been a couple of years with Orser. Bad habits were learned in BC.
Cricket Club is a full service training centre with training in all aspects of skating.
I agree that Orser can't be a good choice for Boyang to develop his presentation skills since Javi and Nam don't have good skating skills. But I saw Nam's interview last season which showed him practicing modern dance at his school. Regardless, the federation would not let him train outside of China since there is no history of doing so as far as I've known and funding for skaters is from the government.
Someone should tell these skinny young boys who look 12 that please don't do sexy programs even if it's ex. :sad4:
That used to be the case for Javi, but he worked on his skating skills a lot. He's not Chan or Hanyu, but look at Javi in 2011 and look at him now - the difference is huge. Some people just don't want to see the improvement
Orser's camp is good at packaging their skaters I'll give them that but polishing not so much. Orser has two of the best skaters in men's currently and while they are technically great the same issues they have artistically are still there. ex. Fernandez has basically been using the same concept in his FS for 3 years and Yuzuru still has "limp" arms and movements often disconnected upper and lower body movements (these issues are not that hard to fix if Yuzuru spend some serious time with an off ice dance teacher). Think about it, how many people in Orser's camp really point their feet or move really well?
I love Javi and acknowledge his improvement. Still, I don't think that his skills are matched to his jumping abilities. He needs to improve skills more, especially spins.
I love Javi and acknowledge his improvement. Still, I don't think that his skills are matched to his jumping abilities. He needs to improve skills more, especially spins.
Hmmm. I have seen so many times that opinion, about "limp" arms or "noodle" arms. The thing is, when I compare Yuzuru's arm movement to Han Yan's or even, wait for it, Patrick's, I prefer Yuzuru's which I see as more natural. One of the reasons he's my favorite skater. The same with Anna Pogorilaya. My point is, perhaps Yuzuru, Orser and Co don't actually consider Yuzuru's arm movement as something that needs to be fixed.
I'm aware that some people prefer "raw" movements but be honest how many people actually watch Pogorilaya for her artistry?
Aaand that's the problem with using the word "artistry". It means different things for everyone and for me, it's the raw movement of the body and expressiveness, not schooled control or lines. So yes, I watch Pogorilaya for her artistry. And Hanyu.